How do I prevent KB5036893 from installing without disabling updates

glasskuter · Apr 19, 2024

mlamiroy said:
all of them?

Every one. MWB can keep an update from applying as can any other 3rd party AV.

x BlueRobot · Apr 19, 2024

glasskuter said:
In another thread about this you mentioned changing the registry to add a driver into the safeboot settings in the registry which I could not figure out how to do.

Yes, it was this post: safe boot with network - no network

You just have to update registry subkey with the name of the driver's service and then it should load in Safe Mode with Networking. You can find the associated service by checking that driver's .inf file or by searching the registry for that driver name using something like FRST with the DRIVERS hive loaded.

zbook · Apr 19, 2024

mlamiroy said:
I downloaded the tool to hide updates, but it does not find KB5036893. So, that is no good either.

What can I do?

Which method / tool was used?

x BlueRobot · Apr 19, 2024

zbook said:
Which method / tool was used?

Probably the usual: Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10

zbook · Apr 19, 2024

Same as:

https://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f22d5fdb-59cd-4275-8c95-1be17bf70b21/wushowhide.diagcab

forumwt · Apr 19, 2024

I wrote a post about a Kernel Critical Error that occurred after KB5036893. I tried clean installs, removing drivers and software, but the error persisted. This error was also related to power and fast boot issues. After all unsuccessful attempts to find a solution and fix this error, I finally downgraded the BIOS, and everything worked fine.

This is the strangest update I have received so far.

glasskuter · Apr 19, 2024

x BlueRobot said:
by checking that driver's .inf file

I have no .inf file. This may be the key as to why some folks wi-fi adapters will work in safe boot and some won't. All of us do not have an .inf file.
I'm gonna try to force the driver from Dell to see if it makes a difference....after I make an image.

NormanF · Apr 19, 2024

An updated BIOS seldom causes a Windows kernel panic.

The obvious solution would have been to roll back the buggy update until Microsoft issued a fix.

Keeping it can make Windows worse.

mlamiroy · Apr 19, 2024

zbook said:
Same as:

https://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f22d5fdb-59cd-4275-8c95-1be17bf70b21/wushowhide.diagcab

Yep, that's the one.

zbook · Apr 19, 2024

The best option is to make free or pay backup images.

(Acronis, Aoemi, EaseUS, Macrium, Paragon, etc.)

Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect

How to Create and Restore a System Image Backup with Macrium Reflect

www.tenforums.com

Another option is to use multiple third party software to block all updates.

Porthos · Apr 20, 2024

mlamiroy said:
What options do you switch off in MWB, all of them? (I've got Web, MWB, Ransomware, and Exploit).

Which version of Malwarebytes? MB4 or MB5? I can assist once I have that info.
Paid or free?

mlamiroy · Apr 20, 2024

Porthos said:
Which version of Malwarebytes? MB4 or MB5? I can assist once I have that info.
Paid or free?

MB 4..6.2 Premium, paid.

Porthos · Apr 20, 2024

mlamiroy said:
MB 4..6.2 Premium, paid.

First, if this is not a typo, your software is way out of date. 4.6.13 is current.

Turn off start with Windows and restart. Do your Windows upgrade/updates, then reopen MB and toggle it back on.

mlamiroy · Apr 20, 2024

Porthos said:
First, if this is not a typo, your software is way out of date. 4.6.13 is current.

Turn off start with Windows and restart. Do your Windows upgrade/updates, then reopen MB and toggle it back on.
View attachment 93985

Thanks. It updated to .13 after I posted the message.
And I'll do this when it next tries to install the patches. (Now scheduled for 1 May).

Porthos · Apr 21, 2024

mlamiroy said:
And I'll do this when it next tries to install the patches. (Now scheduled for 1 May).

I have never personally had to disable Malwarebytes to install any Windows update.
And neither has any of my paid clients.

mlamiroy · Apr 21, 2024

Porthos said:
I have never personally had to disable Malwarebytes to install any Windows update.
And neither has any of my paid clients.

Thus far, neither have I.

glasskuter · Apr 21, 2024

@Porthos I never had to either until last fall. I had 3 cumulatives in a row fail until I turned it off. Don't know why unless it's something machine specific. It became part of my 'pre-update Tuesday' routine which is SFC, image, disable MWB. Maybe I'll try the next one with MWB on to see if whatever it was might have worked itself out.