10 -> 11: Should I wait or should I load?


JeffFinnan

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I’ve recently moved my Win 10, 21H2 (OS Build 19044, 1682, (on an SSD) to a new motherboard, CPU, and video card. Windows Update says it can run Windows 11 and PC Health Check shows all green. I have a clone of the SSD that will boot off a USB 3.0 port. Is there any reason wait until Windows 11 is offered to me?

Thanks,
Jeff
 
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No real reason to wait if you don't want to... just follow the tutorial on this site to get yourself the latest ISO file and create your media from that for the installation.
 

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No reason to wait. With your CPU you will in some cases get a better experience on Windows 11 than Windows 10. But the difference is quite small in the end. If you are in a hurry, just upgrade using any means necessary. If you are perfectly happy with your Windows 10 instance I see no real reason to upgrade though.
11 is after all Windows 10 with new skin, new scheduler and a lot of security features forced on you.
I'm personally happy with either. I have one daily driver on 10 and one on 11, both work great.
 

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Is there any reason wait until Windows 11 is offered to me?

Jeff,

If you like the new Start menu & Taskbar then there's no particular reason to wait.
If you don't then there's no particular reason to act [until 2025].

All the best,
Denis
 

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My advice is go for it. If you don't like it you can always roll back to 10. There is plenty of help on here to answer any questions you may have. If you don't like the taskbar, start menu or context menu there are programs to make them like 10. Also you can change the number of rollback days with DISM but I recommend making an image first
 

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Just adding here that if you download W11 via UUPDUMP etc - and you have old "Technet keys" - they are still working on "Enter product key" and activate Windows. I just created another brand new W11 VM on a different (W11 capable ) machine and entered an old W7 technet W7 Ultimate key -- no problem - activation returned with "Windows now activated with a digital license" so the W7 update route still in some cases is working for Free updates.

How many years has it been since W10 was offered as a free update to W7 users !!! and obviously that seems to imply W7->W11 as on that machine (didn't have any OS "pre installed" ) I installed W11 from scratch and after the initial set up and was requested to activate windows I just did -> change product key and entered the W7 key.

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Yes, it's usually the path of least trouble :)

... posting this response after 4 responses going the other way :look:
My vote is the opposite. Waiting for Windows Update has proven, historically, to be the least reliable way of upgrading Windows. At least as far as tenforums.com and elevenforum.com posts indicate.
 

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My vote is the opposite. Waiting for Windows Update has proven, historically, to be the least reliable way of upgrading Windows. At least as far as tenforums.com and elevenforum.com posts indicate.
Well, 99% of users wait and don't have problems, whereas 1% of users that include those who wait and those who don't wait, have problems and post on forums.
 

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Well, 99% of users wait and don't have problems, whereas 1% of users that include those who wait and those who don't wait, have problems and post on forums.
If the 99% of users don't have problems, it is also assumed that they don't post on the forums, so how would you know what method they used to upgrade? However, that being said, I have no firsthand experience with waiting for Windows Update because I have always downloaded the ISO file and upgraded manually within a few days of it becoming available and have had no problems.
 

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I have no firsthand experience with waiting for Windows Update because I have always downloaded the ISO file and upgraded manually within a few days of it becoming available and have had no problems.
I do have first hand experience, deliberately so because I wanted to see what problems other users may run into. I also wanted to see how long before I would be offered the W11 upgrade, and how long it would take. I did the same exercise for the last two major Windows 10 upgrades, 2004 and before that 1903.


For Windows 11 I already knew my System One below (fully compatible and less than a year old) would have no problems upgrading from 10 to 11. I had been running a test upgrade on it since the first Insider build ISO became available. So at the end of September 2021 I re-imaged it back to its Windows 10 image and waited...

...that was the longest two weeks of my life, I wasn't offered the upgrade until October 20th.

All my upgrades through Windows Update have been trouble-free and completely successful...

TL;DR they also take nearly twice as long as using the ISO.
 

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If you upgraded everything for the sole purpose of installing 11, then go for it. If not I would wait until after the first feature update.
I have instructed my clients to wait.
 

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I got a new Notebook in Oct. running Win10 Pro that included the free license for Win11 Pro, has been working fine. Got a new Desktop today with Win10 Pro and am downloading the .iso I'll use to Mount and run the Upgrade from. Granted the use is somewhat different, mostly visual and some things in different places but I need to learn that, already have 2 clients that have gotten new computers with it.
 

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If the 99% of users don't have problems, it is also assumed that they don't post on the forums, so how would you know what method they used to upgrade?
Oh, we know very well what 99% of users did, they simply waited until they saw and clicked the 'upgrade' button, because they don't have the slightest idea what else to do, and because it is the same thing they do to upgrade their phones.

The 1% failure rate for WU upgrades is a VERY high estimate, BTW, I just use it for explanation purposes. For a billion devices it would mean 10 million upgrade failures. It is very likely that MS targets something like a 0.01% failure rate or even much better.

In any case, if you want to avoid upgrade troubles, then your statistical chances are at least 100 times better if you simply wait until you can click the 'upgrade' button.
 

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Windows 11 is a must have OS no reason to wait. I got both my computers on it as fast as possible. it is awesome sauce.
 

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Until yesterday I was pondering the same decision as the OP - should I jump or wait to be pushed. Yesterday I bit the bullet and hit the update button on my Honor MagicBook Pro laptop and crossed my fingers. A reasonable time later W11 Home was up and running with only one slight problem of the Bluetooth mouse continually losing connection. A quick Google found me the answer to that and I am now deep into finding my way around the new layout.

So far I like what I am seeing so my desktop PC is likely to get the same treatment sometime over the weekend. This is my main computer where I do all of my photography editing and DAM so I will be doing an in-place update initially but may then go for a fresh install once I'm happy that everything works as it should do.
 

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Meanwhile, the OP has not been back to this thread yet.
 

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    32GB
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    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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    Windows 11 Education
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
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    Intel i7-8550U
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    32GB
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    Nvidia Geforce MX150
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    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
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