1st generation AMD Ryzen CPUs

lucie11

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Windows 11 supports my HP Envy laptop (I had a pop-up advising me to upgrade), but not my Dell Inspiron Gaming PC.

I ran the PC Health Check on my PC and everything is fine except the processor, which "isn't currently supported for Windows 11"
So I checked the list of supported processors and in fact, my AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-core Processor was not on the list.
With a bit of research, I discovered that my processor is 1st generation Ryzen, which Windows 11 does not support.

This is a good gaming PC and is only 3 years old. I'm amazed that Windows 11 doesn't support it.

So I have a few questions and quandaries:
  • Has anybody tried networking a Windows 10 and a Windows 11 system? I am reluctant to upgrade one without the other as I need them to work seamlessly together on my network.
  • I read a few old articles indicating that Windows may eventually extend its support to 1st gen Ryzen. Does anyone have up-to-date information on whether this is a real possibility or not?
  • I suppose I could keep both laptop and PC on Windows 10 until 2025. The only reason I'm interested in upgrading is the increased security of Windows 11, and some concern that although supported, Windows 10 will not receive as much attention anymore.
  • I suppose my only other options will be to upgrade my PC with a new PCU (which could be expensive) or try the methods for installing Windows 11 on incompatible hardware (which I don't like the idea of much).
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 10

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron Gaming Desktop 5675
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.4 GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell 07PR60
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 2400MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 22 Monitor - S2218H - 54.6cm(21.5")
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB M.2 Solid State Drive (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive (Storage)
    PSU
    460 W
    Case
    Chassis with EPA
    Cooling
    Lighting Air Cooling 95W Summit Ridge
    Keyboard
    Dell Multimedia Keyboard - UK (QWERTY)
    Mouse
    Evoluent Vertical Mouse 3
    Internet Speed
    Download 50 mbps, Upload 14 mbps
    Browser
    Chrome 95
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender

Devlin1888

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Hey, I've transferred a couple of files from my pc (win 11) to my brothers and it worked no problem. That is the most basic of things though But i dont see any reason why it wouldn't work so far.

As for extending support, I personally don't think that they will, if they were going to i'd say they'd have done it for launch, However i could be wrong.

As much as the 1700x is a really good cpu it is nearly 5 years old since it launched which puts it in the same bracket as the folks on the 7th gen intels with exclusion of a few.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Education Build 22483.1011 Developer Build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7 10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    16GB Viper Steel Series 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super X OC Windforce
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 3840X2160 Benq Gl2250 1920x1080
    Screen Resolution
    4K/1600/1440/1080
    Hard Drives
    M.2 - ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB
    SSD - Samsung 860 evo
    PSU
    Corsair 650w
    Case
    NZXT S340 Elite
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steel Series Rival 710
    Internet Speed
    50mbs
    Browser
    Opera GX
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech g29+Pedals+Shifter

clam1952

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Crewe, Cheshire, UK
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Windows 11 21H2 OS Build 22000.469
No problems Networking 10 and 11 here, 2 PCs on 11 and 2 on 10.

Before contemplating upgrading the CPU on the Inspiron, you might want to check if Dells Motherboard will support 2nd generation or higher, Dell being somewhat different, if similar to other first generation boards in theory it ought to support second and third generation, I swapped a Ryzen 5 1600 for a Ryzen 7 3800X on an Asus mother board.

Microsoft will not be changing the list to include anything else as the excluded CPUs do not have the required features and drivers for Windows 11, there is a lot of rubbish that's been posted about extending support.
You can run 11 on a first gen Ryzen however it would be unsupported with no guarantees that you will get updates or that it won't stop working in the future. Currently unsupported CPUs are getting updates and MS have made a registry fix available to enable 11 to be installed on unsupported hardware at your own risk, plus there are several other methods, see this thread Let's run Windows 11 on an incompatible hardware
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 21H2 OS Build 22000.469
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME B350-PLUS
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080TI
    Sound Card
    On Board Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    240GB PNY CS900 SSD - OS
    1 TB Crucial MX500 SSD
    500GB Crucial MX300 SSD
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102
    4TB Seagate ST4000DM000-1F2168
    PSU
    EVGA 750GQ Gold Certified
    Case
    Cooler Master 690 III
    Cooling
    Akasa AK98 5 Case Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270 - wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech - wireless
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 build 22000.469
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 3881 - modified with SFX PSU fitted internally
    CPU
    Intel i5 - 10400
    Motherboard
    Dell 032w55 version A00
    Memory
    16GB of HyperX Fury @ 2133 Mhz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 6GB GTX 1060.
    Sound Card
    Builtin
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER KA241
    Screen Resolution
    1920x 1080 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    256GB SK hynix NVMe
    1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX-75WN4A1
    PSU
    Modular 450 Watt Corsair SF450 Platinum ( Mod to replace the Dell 265 Watt PSU)
    Case
    Inspiron Small Desktop
    Cooling
    Dell stock cooler
    Mouse
    Dell
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    BT Fibre 75 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Use hardware KVM to switch monitors on three PCs and software (input director) to use mouse and keyboard on all 4 PCs.

spapakons

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Athens
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Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
Yes, any system that can run Windows 10 64-bit can be made to install Windows 11 too, either directly (supported) or by hacking (unsupported). Read all about it in the appropriate thread suggested by clam1952 above. The only difference on an unsupported system is that you must hack setup for either a clean installation or upgrade from 10 or from an earlier Windows 11 build to the latest build. All other updates do not check compatibility and install automatically through Windows Update, so do not worry about security. Regarding drivers, all Windows 10 or 8 or 7 or even Vista 64-bit drivers will also work on Windows 11 with the exception of some Intel graphics drivers that are on purpose blocked by Intel to install only in Windows 7 64-bit to force you upgrade to newer hardware. Even these can sometimes be forced or you could install the respective Vista 64-bit drivers instead. So no worries about drivers either.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 64-bit (build 22000.282)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v21H2 (build 22000.438)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Asus GT620-1GD3 (nVidia GeForce GT 620 1GB DDR3)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Patriot Burst Elite 480GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Stock Intel CPU Fan, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 2.3 graphics drivers, WEI score 5.1
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