Announcing general availability of Windows 365 for Windows 10 and Windows 11

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Today I am thrilled to share the general availability of Windows 365 and the resources available to help you get started with this new cloud service!

Windows 365 introduces a new way to experience Windows 10 or Windows 11 (when it’s generally available later this calendar year) for all types of workers, from interns and contractors to software developers and industrial designers. Windows 365 takes the operating system to the Microsoft Cloud, securely streaming the full Windows experience—including all your apps, data, and settings—to your personal or corporate devices. This approach creates a fully new personal computing category, specifically for the hybrid world: the Cloud PC.

The Cloud PC draws on the power of the cloud to provide a powerful, simple, and secure full Windows 10 or Windows 11 experience that you can use to empower your workforce, regardless of location or device. Windows 365 provides an instant-on boot experience that enables users to stream all their personalized applications, tools, data, and settings from the cloud across any device including your Windows, Mac, iPad, Android, and coming soon Linux device. The Windows experience is consistent, no matter the device. You can pick up right where you left off, because the state of your Cloud PC remains the same, even when you switch devices.

Your organization can start to experience the power, simplicity, and security of a Cloud PC today through Windows 365. And we have a lot of resources to help you to get started!

First, we have a new Microsoft Mechanics video with Christiaan Brinkhoff that walks you through getting started with your Windows 365 Cloud PCs.

We also have two blogs that provide step-by-step guidance:
If you’re still just learning what Windows 365 is, check out my Mechanics video on Windows 365, your Cloud PC - What it is, how it works, and how to set it up.

Finally, we'd love for you to be a part of our community. Ask questions, start a conversation, or share feedback in the Windows 365 Tech Community. Have a suggestion for a new feature or functionality? Post your ideas and upvote your favorites in the Windows 365 feature requests board.

We’re so excited to bring this new way to experience Windows through the power of the cloud, and we can’t wait to hear how you’ll use Cloud PCs to empower your employees to achieve more.


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See also: App Assure now supports app compatibility on Windows 365
 
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Holy crap!!!
A bit pricey, don't ya think!?!?!?

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Windows 365 is now live - here’s how much it will cost you


At the other end of the scale, users who frequently perform compute-heavy tasks (say, creatives or software engineers) will have access to a configuration powered by 8 vCPUs, with 32GB RAM and 512GB storage. This option will cost businesses $158/£138 per user per month.



At those prices, you could buy a brand new PC in 12 months.

For example... System Builder <----- and this is at scalper prices, and won't include internet latency.
 
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It is a little pricey! I guess for businesses it would be worth the price. For me, I'll stay with installing the OS on my computer.


Right NOW they claim instant on, switch to various devices instantly, etc.
If/when this becomes common place, it's gonna bog down the whole internet.

Accessing websites is one thing...running an OS over your internet connection, is gonna be a whole different ball game.

Heck... it's gonna put @Dude's Benchmark Emporium out of business. :)


People won't be asking: "Can it run Crysis", they'll be asking: "Can it run Oregon Trail".
 

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If I go for it, then I would do 70% to 80% of my computing in the cloud, and 20% to 30% at my desk. So, there will definitely be savings at my desk to offset the subscription price. I would still hope for lower prices for the consumer version. I don't need 99.999% availability, or whatever it is that makes the business version so expensive.

I really like having a worry-free PC in the cloud.
 

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If I go for it, then I would do 70% to 80% of my computing in the cloud, and 20% to 30% at my desk. So, there will definitely be savings at my desk to offset the subscription price. I would still hope for lower prices for the consumer version. I don't need 99.999% availability, or whatever it is that makes the business version so expensive.

I really like having a worry-free PC in the cloud.

A PC in the 'cloud' is not a PC. And how does working less at your desk PC offset the cost of subscription?
 

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A PC in the 'cloud' is not a PC. And how does working less at your desk PC offset the cost of subscription?
Why is the cloud PC not a PC? You can run productivity programs on it, etc., so for all practical purposes, it is a PC.

It is not about working less, it is about needing to buy and maintain only 20% to 30% of the computing resources 'on earth' (the rest is done with the computing resources in the cloud) In a parallel thread, I therefore said that I am hoping for an early enough release of the consumer version of W365 so that I can do a W10 > W365 transition (and not W10 > W11 > W365)

So, the upshot is, I am hoping for a release of the consumer version of W365 by 2024 for $10/user/month :rolleyes:
 

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At the current price, it definitely ain't geared toward the average, casual use, blue collar individual!
 

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Why is the cloud PC not a PC? You can run productivity programs on it, etc., so for all practical purposes, it is a PC.

It is not about working less, it is about needing to buy and maintain only 20% to 30% of the computing resources 'on earth' (the rest is done with the computing resources in the cloud) In a parallel thread, I therefore said that I am hoping for an early enough release of the consumer version of W365 so that I can do a W10 > W365 transition (and not W10 > W11 > W365)

So, the upshot is, I am hoping for a release of the consumer version of W365 by 2024 for $10/user/month :rolleyes:
No, it's not. A PC is a 'Personal Computer', which this is not. If you own a PC, and you pay your subscription to only use it 30% of the time, you still own it. How many computer resources do you use? If you are an enterprise IT guy, yah, I guess this makes some sort of sense from a strict financial and convenience viewpoint, but for the typical end user, not so much. But whatever it is, it's not a PC.

The entire point of the PC revolution of the 80's was to NOT HAVE THIS. I remember, I was there. PC's were a reaction AGAINST mainframe/terminal models of computing, which is essentially what this is. Whatever this is, and however it may fit with what you want to do, calling it a 'Cloud PC' is Orwellian in the extreme.
 

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Well, I ignore religion and colors for now.

But why would a plumber, for example, not be able to take advantage of W365? He would take a $300 laptop and a $100 portable printer with him, pushes a few buttons and all the paperwork is done for him. And if his laptop and printer get crushed by a plumbing wrench, then nothing is lost, really.

Same for a Ph.D. arctic researcher who does powerful data processing in the cloud, much more powerful than his laptop in the bitter cold could ever do. He and his laptop tragically get eaten by a polar bear :eek: :eek: but his research results is secure in the cloud :)
 
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I can't wrap my head around this!

But, consider...
15 million users operating high performance OS's from the cloud......,

... somebody better come up with sumpthin a bit more powerful than fiber optics and 5G data!
 

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Well, I ignore religion and colors for now.

But why would a plumber, for example, not be able to take advantage of W365? He would take a $300 laptop and a $100 portable printer with him, pushes a few buttons and all the paperwork is done for him. And if his laptop and printer get crushed by a plumbing wrench, then nothing is lost, really.

Same for a Ph.D. arctic researcher who does powerful data processing in the cloud, much more powerful than his laptop in the bitter cold could ever do. He tragically get's eaten by a polar bear :eek: but his data is still there :)
All well and good, if that's what you want - to have all of your data and programs and processing residing on MS computers. Not me, but whatever works for you. But please, just don't call it any kind of PC - which is my main point. It is really the anti-PC.
 

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Remember the old saying: "Don't take your work home with you at night"?

Now it's: "Take your work everywhere"!
 

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Clouds are associated with weather, which is often bad. ;)

And why cloud computing? it's not up in the air, it's on servers anchored to the ground in data centres, so why not say so....... :rolleyes:
 

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There may be some confusion here. It is I/O-intensive tasks that require high speed Internet connections between the cloud PC and the 'earth' PC. Processing-intensive tasks do NOT require high speed Internet connections, it all happens inside the cloud PC. So, it's not OK to play video games, but it's OK to do humongous scientific number crunching (as long as you the pay the humongous bill for doing the humongous amount of data processing in the cloud PC) as the results only need to trickle down on 'earth'.
 
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Clouds are associated with weather, which is often bad. ;)

And why cloud computing? it's not up in the air, it's on servers anchored to the ground in data centres, so why not say so....... :rolleyes:
Because marketing. That's all. It's an unfunny joke.
 

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First, a bunch of quotes, all about comments I oppose, partially or completely. My opinion and comments after the quotes:

Holy crap!!! A bit pricey, don't ya think!?!?!?

At those prices, you could buy a brand new PC in 12 months.

It is a little pricey! I guess for businesses it would be worth the price. For me, I'll stay with installing the OS on my computer.

Accessing websites is one thing...running an OS over your internet connection, is gonna be a whole different ball game.

A PC in the 'cloud' is not a PC. And how does working less at your desk PC offset the cost of subscription?

At the current price, it definitely ain't geared toward the average, casual use, blue collar individual!

No, it's not. A PC is a 'Personal Computer', which this is not. If you own a PC, and you pay your subscription to only use it 30% of the time, you still own it. How many computer resources do you use? If you are an enterprise IT guy, yah, I guess this makes some sort of sense from a strict financial and convenience viewpoint, but for the typical end user, not so much. But whatever it is, it's not a PC.

The entire point of the PC revolution of the 80's was to NOT HAVE THIS. I remember, I was there. PC's were a reaction AGAINST mainframe/terminal models of computing, which is essentially what this is. Whatever this is, and however it may fit with what you want to do, calling it a 'Cloud PC' is Orwellian in the extreme.

... somebody better come up with sumpthin a bit more powerful than fiber optics and 5G data!

All well and good, if that's what you want - to have all of your data and programs and processing residing on MS computers. Not me, but whatever works for you. But please, just don't call it any kind of PC - which is my main point. It is really the anti-PC.

Clouds are associated with weather, which is often bad. ;) And why cloud computing? it's not up in the air, it's on servers anchored to the ground in data centres, so why not say so....... :rolleyes:

Because marketing. That's all. It's an unfunny joke.

OK, geeks, being fully prepared for the s**tstorm following this post, here's what I think and know:

Term PC today no longer means only Personal Computer, it also means Personal Computing. When talking about Cloud computing, it does not mean Cloud as a weather phenomen; it simply means that service you are using is not stored at your location. In cloud computing, it's irrelevant where the "cloud", the storage location, physically is. For the user, the only relevance is that it is "somewhere", not on my local computer.

For instance, using these forums of ours is cloud computing. This site, and our sister sites, are owned by a British company, and stored on servers physically located in the USA. If you refuse to use any cloud computing services, you will not browse these forums. It's that simple. The same with about everything. When you read news at CNN.com or BBC.com, those news come from cloud, not from a local source.

Cloud computing as a term is not a joke. Or would you rather use term like "An internet service located on servers in This or That country"? Call me stupid, as I know quite a many of you do, but for me, using word Cloud to describe it is not only simpler, but it also makes sense.

That some users still think "In 80's we did it like this, why has it changed?", is a way of thinking I simply cannot understand.

Of course it is clear that Microsoft can never start selling this service for private users with the prices now announced. I find it quite funny, or to be honest, really ridiculous, that people are complaining about the prices here. How many of you now complaining about the prices are in a decision making position in a company, which might consider Windows as a cloud service?

I am a happy Microsoft Azure Cloud VM user, having had several Linux, Windows 10, and Windows Server virtual machines in Azure cloud. In general, my cloud virtual machines are snappier, and work faster, than virtual machines stored locally. I welcome Windows 365 cloud service, I find it is a logical step in Windows evolution. As my Azure virtual machines have already shown to me, it will have quite a many benefits.

Azure Cloud VM control panel:

Azure VM Control Panel.jpg

Azure Cloud VM in action:

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Note that I don't have an especially fast Internet connection. But, even with my 100 Mbps down / 20 Mbps up, using my Azure cloud virtual machines is, as I mentioned, snappier and faster than using virtual machines stored locally. Keeping that in mind, I am sure that Windows 365 in cloud finds its target audience.

Thank you Microsoft, for one more exellent service.

Kari
 
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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 PRO x64 Dev
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    Hyper-V Virtual Machine (host in System 2 specs)
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8550U
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Microsoft Hyper-V Video
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    Laptop display (17.1") & Samsung U28E590 (27.7")
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    HP HP ProBook 470 G5
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8550U
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    HP 837F KBC Version 02.3D.00
    Memory
    16 GB
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    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 & NVIDIA GeForce 930MX
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST Audio
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    Hard Drives
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    Wireless Logitech MSX mouse
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    Wireless Logitech MK710 keyboard
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    Windows Defender
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