Solved App install behavior I can't understand


glasskuter said:
Seems like our right hands don't know what our left are doing and we're punting in the dark here. The OP says
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I figured the OP jumped the gun! 🤷‍♂️
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
antspants said:
Happened to me, I paid no mind to it, then a few reboots later it was back again.
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Ah! So you understand!
glasskuter said:
And now he's going to install startallback on top of that.
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Well, yes, looking at what Edwin managed to do with his startallback I was eager to see what the program did.
Furthermore
antspants said:
What I suspected. I’d say he’s run a script maybe?
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Run a script? Not this bear of little brain.
glasskuter said:
According to Edwin you already installed StartAllBack
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Seems I did! 1714226850777.png and it's an amazing program!! It installs without warning you that "something's about to affect your system (or words to that affect") AND it's a third-party application of no size!!
antspants said:
unless you have made an image before every change
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Are you serious? (and I'm not being sarcastic--who me??) But seriously, do you recommend one make an image before every change or create a restore point?
antspants said:
Happened to me, I paid no mind to it, then a few reboots later it was back again.
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That's the approach I'm taking to getting CoPilot to roost. Hasn't happened yet...
glasskuter said:
I thought your goal was to get Windows 11 working again so you could learn Windows 11
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Yup. And that's exactly why I left the "Recommended" on...to know what Windows has on its mind...
glasskuter said:
without adding all the 3rd party stuff.
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No...I still have to actually USE this computer... Not just suffer it.
Edwin said:
Yeah, StartAllBack.
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Now that I realize StartAllBack is installed, how do I access its "Properties"/Configuration?
Edwin said:
I prefer a utility such as QTTabBar where scrollable cascading menus can be invoked from just about anywhere...
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WOW! This might be a bridge-too-far, even for me!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. Inspiron 16 7610
    CPU
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    External
    Keyboard
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
jro11 said:
Now that I realize StartAllBack is installed, how do I access its "Properties"/Configuration?
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Right click the Menu or Start Button.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
jro11 said:
But seriously, do you recommend one make an image before every change or create a restore point?
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For you buddy, on a perpetual cycle, or until you’re comfortable with Windows.

But seriously, make notes of everything you changed and a backup whenever you’re happy with the changes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.3374
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 1 x 24" LG M38H 1 x 32" LF6300 TV Monitor 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    2 x WD something Something 8TB HDD's / 2 x WD something Something 4TB HDD's / 1 x EVO 1TB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB SSD's / 1 x EVO 250 GB SSD / 2 x QVO 1TB (External Hub) / 1 x EVO 1TB (Portable Backup Case)
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Full Tower
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 22621.2215
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Graphics processor is an Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
antspants said:
or until you’re comfortable with Windows
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Windows 11

I've been very comfortable with Windows 10, (until Win11 seemed to give Win10 developers permission to indiscriminately mess around with Win10).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. Inspiron 16 7610
    CPU
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    External
    Keyboard
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
Edwin said:
Right click the Menu or Start Button.
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Thanks...impressive... (Did you decided to purchase StartAllBack or is it your experience there's always another similar (free) program available close to the end of its trial99 period.

Because CoPilot is surprisingly responsive (except when I ask it questions like "Please list and describe ALL free programs that provide 2D CAD drawing capabilities.") I would have asked it first...
and I hoped StartAllBack might allow me to bring back CoPilot 1714236102690.png but alas...

I think you'll know the answer to this: Can you recommend a program that allows me to 'overview', 'select' (as Task View does) and bring into operation (so that I can work on the document, spreadsheet, graphic, etc.) an item that's currently on screen. Program-types that used to do this included those that cascaded (or otherwise rearranged) windows so they were easier to recognize and bring to the fore...
Thanks in advance
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. Inspiron 16 7610
    CPU
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FHWFD A01
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop (small) and 1 or 2 external monitors
    Screen Resolution
    -
    Hard Drives
    PC711 NVMe SK hynix 1TB 1.02 TB NVMe ANB2N582412102F0G_0001
    PSU
    -
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    External!
    Mouse
    External
    Internet Speed
    -
    Browser
    Chrome (Chrome profiles), Firefox (Bookmark Search Plus2), Edge (History page), Opera (annoying)
    Antivirus
    WinDefender
    Other Info
    Win11 Home 23H2 22631.3447
  • Operating System
    Win10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B75M-D3H
    Memory
    8068 MB Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics card(s)
    2.30 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11800H
    Sound Card
    Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 Displays
    Screen Resolution
    n/a
    Hard Drives
    SSD and others (internal and external)
    Case
    Desktop
    Cooling
    Fan
    Mouse
    External
    Keyboard
    External
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox, Tor, Brave, Opera, etc.
    Antivirus
    Win Defender
    Other Info
    Win10 & unfortunately OneDrive: Can't completely rid myself of this!!
jro11 said:
Did you decided to purchase StartAllBack or is it your experience there's always another similar (free) program available close to the end of its trial99 period.
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I purchased SAB because it worked, I trusted it and was satisfied with it, plus, back then, (StartIsBack), it only costed me $1.99!
jro11 said:
Can you recommend a program that allows me to 'overview', 'select'...
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Afraid not. Win+Tab or Alt+Tab is as good as it gets!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
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