Are there ways to know if the Windows 11 July 2023 Update V3 admx is updated in the PC with the normal update or not?


fierycloud

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Most of the admx files in a 11 22h2 PC is 2022/05/07. But there are 3 version of admx files

Version: 1.0
Date Published: 7/15/2023
File Name: Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 September 2022 Update.msi
File Size:13.6 MB

Version:2.0
Date Published:7/15/2023
File Name:Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 March 2023 Update V2.msi
File Size:13.6 MB

Version:3.0
Date Published:7/21/2023
File Name:Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 July 2023 Update V3.msi
File Size: 13.7 MB
 
Windows Build/Version
11 22H2 22621.2134
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    Windows 11 22621.2134
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    PC/Desktop
There's an indirect method for checking the extracted Admin Templates against the latest Monthly Update's files.

Every month, MS refreshes the Windows 11 22H2 update history. If you scroll on the left margin, Updates are listed in reverse order.
Click on the latest CU (currently KB5029263) and scroll ALL THE WAY DOWN to the bottom, where it says "File information".

Download the list of files (*.csv) for this CU.

What you get is every filename in the Monthly Update, with a major drawback that it doesn't provide a full pathname and files may be listed multiple times because they are several international versions. The detail we care about is the date and file length.

We can oversimplify and assume the file length works as an unique identifier. The date is less useful because the timestamps between the MSI and CU don't exactly line up. Using a PowerShell script, it's possible to scan a folder of MSI templates, and compare against the CSV.

Because there's too many templates, we can narrow our search to en_US files. Let's find all non-matching files and ignore templates which date to 2022 (22H2's release), the final results:
en_US_AccountNotifications.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_AppPrivacy.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_CloudContent.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_ControlPanel.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_DataCollection.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_feeds.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_grouppolicypreferences.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_grouppolicy_server.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_InetRes.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_inkwatson.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_LanmanServer.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_LanmanWorkstation.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_LAPS.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_mmcsnapins2.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_Multitasking.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_Passport.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_performanceperftrack.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_Printing.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_Search.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_SearchOCR.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_Sensors.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_SettingSync.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_shapecollector.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_StartMenu.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_TerminalServer.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_terminalserver_server.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_Windows.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_WindowsDefender.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_windowsmediadrm.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_windowsmediaplayer.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_windowsserver.adml 20-Jul-2023
en_US_WindowsUpdate.adml 08-Jul-2023
en_US_WPN.adml 08-Jul-2023

Most of the non-matching files appear to be Server Edition templates. Remember the MSI is for all Windows editions.
This suggests the normal Monthly Update is more or less in sync with the MSI version.

Code:
$TemplatesFolder = "Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 July 2023 Update V3"
$CSV = Get-Content "5028185.csv" | Select-String '.adm'

foreach ($file in (Get-ChildItem $TemplatesFolder -Filter "*en_US*")) {
    $Filename = $file.Name -replace 'staging_',''
    $Date = $file.LastWriteTime.ToString('dd-MMM-yyyy')
    $Length = '{0:N0}' -f $file.Length

    $Matches = ($CSV | Select-String $Filename | Select-String $Length).Count
    if ($Matches -eq 0) {
        "$Filename $Date" | Select-String '2022' -NotMatch
    }
}
 

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  • OS
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Thans for the reply. I will try to get the files size in the PolicyDefinitions folder to compare.

The new v3 ones really have several different dates which are not appeared in the PolicyDefinitions folder.

And just trying to use the creating new folder and renaming old folder method on the PC which is not a server. It seems to be a method for a server.

When this is finished, rename the current PolicyDefinitions folder to reflect that it's the previous version, such as PolicyDefinitions-1709. Then, rename the new folder (such as PolicyDefinitions-1803) to the production name.

Among most of the unchanged files between old and V3, files size are the same, date are the same on 2022/05/07, but most of the time differs.
Some files have the same size but different dates and time. (2023/07/08 < 2023/05/05)
Whole new ones are on 2023/07/20.
 
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Whole New admx.
2023/7/20 1,262 feeds.admx
2023/7/20 1,485 grouppolicy-server.admx
2023/7/20 100,283 grouppolicypreferences.admx
2023/7/20 1,787 inkwatson.admx
2023/7/20 6,994 mmcsnapins2.admx
2023/7/20 1,939 performanceperftrack.admx
2023/7/20 16,947 searchocr.admx
2023/7/20 1,187 shapecollector.admx
2023/7/20 18,071 terminalserver-server.admx
2023/7/20 1,314 windowsserver.admx
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The files which have different date but have the same size between old (22621.2134) & v3. Some have different Lowercase files name.
2023/6/28 1,408 AccountNotifications.admx 2023/7/8 1,408 AccountNotifications.admx
2023/5/5 36,992 AppPrivacy.admx 2023/7/8 36,992 AppPrivacy.admx
2023/5/5 8,565 CloudContent.admx 2023/7/8 8,565 CloudContent.admx
2023/5/5 4,335 ControlPanel.admx 2023/7/8 4,335 ControlPanel.admx
2023/5/5 14,734 DataCollection.admx 2023/7/8 14,734 DataCollection.admx
2023/5/5 4,916 Explorer.admx 2023/7/8 4,916 Explorer.admx
2023/5/5 1,717,673 inetres.admx 2023/7/8 1,717,673 inetres.admx
2023/5/5 9,469 kdc.admx 2023/7/8 9,469 kdc.admx
2023/5/5 14,073 Kerberos.admx 2023/7/8 14,073 Kerberos.admx
2023/5/5 5,767 LanmanServer.admx 2023/7/8 5,767 LanmanServer.admx
2023/5/5 4,861 LanmanWorkstation.admx 2023/7/8 4,861 LanmanWorkstation.admx
2023/5/5 9,734 LAPS.admx 2023/7/8 9,734 LAPS.admx
2023/5/5 2,198 MSAPolicy.admx 2023/7/8 2,198 MSAPolicy.admx
2023/5/5 15,082 Passport.admx 2023/7/8 15,082 Passport.admx
2023/5/5 37,068 Printing.admx 2023/7/8 37,068 Printing.admx
2023/5/5 66,032 Search.admx 2023/7/8 66,032 Search.admx
2023/5/5 13,638 Sensors.admx 2023/7/8 13,638 Sensors.admx
2023/5/5 11,621 SettingSync.admx 2023/7/8 11,621 SettingSync.admx
2023/6/28 38,009 StartMenu.admx 2023/7/8 38,009 StartMenu.admx
2023/6/28 100,644 TerminalServer.admx 2023/7/8 100,644 TerminalServer.admx
2023/5/5 2,947 WebThreatDefense.admx 2023/7/8 2,947 WebThreatDefense.admx
2023/5/5 29,870 Windows.admx 2023/7/8 29,870 Windows.admx
2023/5/5 102,283 WindowsDefender.admx 2023/7/8 102,283 WindowsDefender.admx
2022/5/7 1,254 WindowsMediaDRM.admx 2023/7/20 1,254 windowsmediadrm.admx
2022/5/6 22,974 WindowsMediaPlayer.admx 2023/7/20 22,974 windowsmediaplayer.admx
2023/5/5 105,734 WindowsUpdate.admx 2023/7/8 105,734 WindowsUpdate.admx
2023/5/5 6,992 WPN.admx 2023/7/8 6,992 WPN.admx
 

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Here's my view: don't get stressed out by the inconsistencies. During my career, I have long noted some teams in large corporations don't share the same commitment to quality.

A classic example: Dell and HP are terrible about preserving timestamps on installer downloads. From time to time, I will re-download files already in my possesion just to check if something changed. I use wget to preserve the file's timestamp. On occasion, when Dell or HP reformat their website, they sometimes move files around and magically give old files a new modification date.

It's like someone just doesn't care.

This is the same truth with Admin Templates, whatever MS team owns the MSI bundle can't coordinate with Windows team.

I just accept the fact that Monthly Updates release every month, and the MSI or whatever bundle only ships like a few times every year. To me, the CU version wins out because Feature updates will require having the latest template around.
 

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It seems that even the date, files size of the admx files, are nothing to do with update or not.


Group Policy Settings Reference Spreadsheet for Windows 11 2022 Update (22H2) - v3.0

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New in Windows 11File namePolicy Setting Name
22H2-V3accountnotifications.admxTurn off account notifications in Start
22H2-V3appprivacy.admxLet Windows apps access presence sensing
22H2-V3laps.admxConfigure password backup directory
22H2-V3laps.admxPassword Settings
22H2-V3laps.admxName of administrator account to manage
22H2-V3laps.admxDo not allow password expiration time longer than required by policy
22H2-V3laps.admxEnable password encryption
22H2-V3laps.admxConfigure authorized password decryptors
22H2-V3laps.admxConfigure size of encrypted password history
22H2-V3laps.admxEnable password backup for DSRM accounts
22H2-V3laps.admxPost-authentication actions
22H2-V3multitasking.admxConfigure the inclusion of app tabs into Alt-Tab
22H2-V3sensors.admxForce Disable Wake When Battery Saver On
22H2-V3sensors.admxForce Allow Wake When External Display Connected
22H2-V3sensors.admxForce Allow Lock When External Display Connected
22H2-V3sensors.admxForce Allow Dim When External Display Connected
22H2-V3startmenu.admxRemove Personalized Website Recommendations from the Recommended section in the Start Menu
22H2-V3startmenu.admxRemove Personalized Website Recommendations from the Recommended section in the Start Menu
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 22621.2134
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
They updates with time.

Version: 1.0
Date Published: 8/15/2023
File Name: Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 September 2022 Update.msi
File Size:13.6 MB

Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 2022 Update (22H2) - v2.0
Version:2.0
Date Published:8/15/2023
File Name:Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 March 2023 Update V2.msi
File Size:13.6 MB


Version: 3.0
Date Published:8/15/2023
File Name: Administrative Templates (.admx) for Windows 11 July 2023 Update V3.msi
File Size: 13.7 MB
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 22621.2134
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop

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