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I have just checked my Motherboard manufacturer and there are several updates for my Bios. I am confused as to if I need to flash all of the updates , or just the latest version. can anyone advise please?
 
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You only need to install the newest version of BIOS if you want to update or add a feature to BIOS, don't upgrade BIOS because there is a new version.
 

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@Kashegan

Flashing the BIOS is not like... updating Windows. A BIOS flash gone wrong "could" brick your motherboard.
That said, a lot of Gigabyte motherboards have a dual BIOS, which gives you hope if the BIOS flash, goes badly.

With that mentioned... the answer depends on what BIOS you are on right now. Lately, because of Windows 11 and because of certain security issues, manufacturers, have been releasing new BIOSes, that are kind of necessary.

As @FreeBooter mentioned... usually we only flash the BIOS if we "need" to for some reason.

If you do decide you need to, then yes... always flash to the latest BIOS.
Lastly, the safest way to flash the BIOS, is manually, from "within" the BIOS itself, and NOT via the internet.
 

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Usually, BIOS updates are cumulative, so you'd only need to install the latest one.

I have seen exceptions for some of my motherboards, where a specific BIOS needed to be installed before subsequent updates could be done. I don't see anything like that for the B360M DS3H, though. I presume that if you tried to flash the latest BIOS, and it needed some earlier IOS to be in place, the flash would not be allowed. Just like BIOS flashing software wouldn't permit you to flash a BIOS for the wrong motherboard. (I guess I'm an optimist.)

The motherboard is a dual BIOS one, but there's not any documentation of that in its user guide. If there is no hardware switch to go to the backup BIOS, it may offer less protection than with such a switch. I had a bitter experience years ago with an early EFI motherboard. It had a dual BIOS, but it was still bricked by a BIOS update. It failed to automatically switch to the backup BIOS, and there was no way to force that.

The generic advice is to not flash a BIOS unless it offers something you need. The latest BIOS contains security updates, so it is probably recommended for all users. There is a slight chance that it will make the machine unbootable.

If you decide to try it, I suggest having the PC connected to a UPS (uninterruptable power supply), and keeping pets out of the room to eliminate the risk of one tripping over a power cord. These aren't necessary, but they offer a little additional protection against unlikely events.
 

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Don't flash your BIOS unless you are having an unfixable problem with your PC.
 
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If you decide to try it, I suggest having the PC connected to a UPS (uninterruptable power supply), and keeping pets out of the room to eliminate the risk of one tripping over a power cord. These aren't necessary, but they offer a little additional protection against unlikely events.
Ditto to what @bobkn said, I never flash a BIOS unless connected to a UPS battery backup. A seemingly instantaneous power bump will kill the function.
 

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Thanks everyone. I had presumed that since the current bios were 3 years old they would need updating. I know what I need to know - basically don't mend it if it isn't broken!
 

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Thanks everyone. I had presumed that since the current bios were 3 years old they would need updating. I know what I need to know - basically don't mend it if it isn't broken!
If your BIOS is 3 years old there is likely also a CPU Microcode update incorporated into the new BIOS apart from other bug fixes.
 

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Thanks everyone. I had presumed that since the current bios were 3 years old they would need updating. I know what I need to know - basically don't mend it if it isn't broken!
I dunno. The F17 BIOS includes some security updates. Gigabyte strongly recommends it.

Feeling Lucky?;-)

(Lucky that you'll never need the security fix, or lucky that the BIOS flash will not create any problems.)
 

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Ditto to what @bobkn said, I never flash a BIOS unless connected to a UPS battery backup. A seemingly instantaneous power bump will kill the function.
I get the impression that power outages are more common in US than UK.

Our power infrastructure is pretty rock solid, and we normally only get issues after a major storm. Funnily enough I had a power outage a couple of weeks ago after a major storm but first for many years.
 

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I have just checked my Motherboard manufacturer and there are several updates for my Bios. I am confused as to if I need to flash all of the updates , or just the latest version. can anyone advise please?

Please confirm that this is the link for the motherboard:

On this link there were no prerequisites displayed.
There is no requirement to install them all one by one in sequence.
The latest version can be installed.
 

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I get the impression that power outages are more common in US than UK.

Our power infrastructure is pretty rock solid, and we normally only get issues after a major storm. Funnily enough I had a power outage a couple of weeks ago after a major storm but first for many years.
They used to be fairly common but not for the last dozen years or so. My wife's computer was killed twice, once with after a series of power bumps and the second from static electricity when she came into the room and grabbed the mouse, now has an antistatic pad on the desk along with mine and my workbench.
 

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I get the impression that power outages are more common in US than UK.

Our power infrastructure is pretty rock solid, and we normally only get issues after a major storm. Funnily enough I had a power outage a couple of weeks ago after a major storm but first for many years.

It's pretty variable in the US. Power companies tend to be regional or even local. They are usually private, if highly regulated by the state. (Those are US states, not the Federal government.)

I don't get a lot of power glitches here. Bad weather can cause them. Severe weather can take it down for a week or 10 days. (Usually due to trees on the lines.)

A UPS may not be vital, but at least avoid doing a BIOS update during a storm. Or WWIII. :(
 

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I completely and utterly disagree with the "don't update BIOS" mentality, especially since the latest BIOS for your board listed has vulnerability fixes.

And BTW, I update my BIOS everything a new one is released. That's me. That said, do realize that updating a BIOS resets it to basic settings, so if you have custom settings, you'll need to redo those. Also, anytime you do do a BIOS update, at least do the "Load Optimized Settings" (or something like that) so that the BIOS can at least setup for your current hardware.

And with Gigabyte boards (I only use Gigabyte) you only need to use the latest version, meaning you don't need to install all the older ones first.

Good luck.
 

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I only update my bios for an important fix. Waiting on ASUS to release AGESA 1.2.0.7 bios update for my x570 MB to fix the fTPM performance issues.
 
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In 35 years and hundreds of BIOS updates, I've never seen one bricked. Also there is a very distinct lack of threads on tenforums and here about a computer that has been bricked by a BIOS update. You have more of a chance having your car totaled in an accident going to the store than you do bricking a motherboard with a BIOS update.
 

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    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
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    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
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Ed Tittel

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I bricked a BIOS once with an interrupted flash. That was long enough ago that removable BIOS chips were common, and I was able to easily replace the bricked EPROM with a properly-constructed (and working) chip. Sigh: things were different then, when we struggled to fit drivers and other stuff into the area between the 640 MB address and the 1,024 MB address using TSR programs. Anybody else remember those?
Cheers!
--Ed--
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
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badrobot

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I completely and utterly disagree with the "don't update BIOS" mentality,

Good luck.
Tell that to the manufacturers....
The point is only update your Bios if the update applies to your issue. If you don't have an issue, you don't have to update.
I personally haven't had any issues with Bios update, but it is never a wise advise to give to always update the Bios.
In short, update at your own risk.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung M.2
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)

glasskuter

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I am in complete agreement with @Dru2. I don't apply it the day a new bios is released, but usually give it a few weeks but I do apply all of them. As with any update there is always a lot of gray area in the description so the thinking of "only apply update if it applies to your issue" doesn't always hold water. Not long ago Event logs showed I was getting a lot of kernel power errors which I narrowed down to sleep. I updated the bios and the errors went away. Nowhere in the description was there anything to lead me to think the update fixed a sleep issue, but it did.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 21H2 22000.832
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 m.2 2230-256+1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
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    Firefox
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    Defender+MWB Premium

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I bricked a BIOS once with an interrupted flash. That was long enough ago that removable BIOS chips were common, and I was able to easily replace the bricked EPROM with a properly-constructed (and working) chip. Sigh: things were different then, when we struggled to fit drivers and other stuff into the area between the 640 MB address and the 1,024 MB address using TSR programs. Anybody else remember those?
Cheers!
--Ed--


I remember those days. Like the 286 days... installing mouse drivers that way, for mice that didn't need non-Windows drivers, and ofc Windows didn't come with mouse drivers. :)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22000.856
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    (onboard) Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    COOLER MASTER ATCS 840 Full Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security (latest)
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot®
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    100/100
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?183088-5000-B-E-on-M2N32-SLI-Dlx-Overclocked&p=2891724#post2891724
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