british internet fiber question


Toasty92

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where i live in a masonette is only a original copper cable telephone line so we are stuck on the maximum that the line is allowed which is 65-72mbps (sorry if i got the letters wrong) but about 3 years ago Virgin did install Fiber lines yet every time i look up my address on the site it says we cant, i have emailed virgin to ask why
but apart from a auto-email i never get a responce, why install fiber lines if nobody can use them, our landlord is awesome so when we asked for a external satalite dish because the comunal kept going down he said yes but our council said NO because aparently it will make the building look bad (thats the short version) saddly because this place is a Lease to our landlord not a full Owned i can sort of see why, so is there any way that we can get them to say yes to getting a fiber box and line from the junction outside thats legal?
 

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I would very much doubt Virgin are legally allowed to install a fibre connection without the owners permission. Perhaps you would need proof of ownership. If you are the owner, that’s a good start. But if you’re not the owner, it’s sometimes easier to seek forgiveness than to ask permission.

If you enter your Maisonette Postcode and then enter your address after it asks, it will either say you can, or you can’t. There is nothing you can do about it. Perhaps like in Australia, it’s slow to roll out.

Check your address:



As far as I understand it, Virgin owns their own cables.
You could try changing over to BT if they are an option to see of they have passed Fibre by your residence.

Check your address:


As far as getting a response from Virgin, I would guess if it says you can’t get Fibre, all they are going to say is “Fibre isn’t available yet at your address” /The End
 

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Assuming your postcode (guessing here) is AL10 0UB

Virgin says you can get Ultra Fast Broadband (Over 1000Mbps)

For the same postcode with BT it says you can only get Broadband.

Seems odd as BT has been around since Moses walked up the hill and forged the Ten Commandments…
 

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i watched them install the little black caps on the path outside, at first i didnt pay attention so to speak but when i went to a friends he had one of the black caps outside his house and he had virgin fibre, what i dont get it why install the junctions outside if none of this street is allowed to even tap into it, as i said we are on the copper line using "fast fiber" as they call it on BT and im sorry but 68-72mbps in today is a joke yet outside is a cap with up to 700mbps link, my code is BS23 3TA
 

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Took them all of an hour to drag Fibre up from the Junction to my home 2 years ago, that included installing the connection to my house. They can use junction boxes that are a fair distance away so there must be some other reason.


I checked your postcode and had to use a random street address, obviously.
I was given a “Be the first to know” message where I could enter my email to be informed.

I also clicked on “My address isn’t listed” and was taken to a form where I could enter details to send an email.

Again, I’d guess the best answer you’re going to get is “Fibre isn’t available yet at your address”

You need to find a fibre rollout map or a fibre coverage map (Probably from BT/Virgin/or your Gov)


It appears that Nexfibre is responsible for rolling out Virgins Fibre infrastructure? I’m not sure.

Nexfibre key areas in 2024
  • Cheshire
  • Derbyshire
  • Durham
  • Kent
  • Lancashire
Some News for you to take a look at if you choose:




 
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Took them all of an hour to drag Fibre up from the Junction to my home 2 years ago, that included installing the connection to my house. They can use junction boxes that are a fair distance away to there must be some other reason.


I checked your postcode and had to use a random street address, obviously.
I was given a “Be the first to know” message where I could enter my email to be informed.

I also clicked on “My address isn’t listed” and was taken to a form where I could enter details to send an email.

Again, I’d guess the best answer you’re going to get is “Fibre isn’t available yet at your address”

You need to find a fibre rollout map or a fibre coverage map (Probably from BT/Virgin/or your Gov)


It appears that Nexfibre is responsible for rolling out Virgins Fibre infrastructure? I’m not sure.

Nexfibre key areas in 2024
  • Cheshire
  • Derbyshire
  • Durham
  • Kent
  • Lancashire
Some News for you to take a look at if you choose:




i genuienly appriciate your replys my man, personally i think the only choice i have over copper is the mobile wifi, where i am is a Ex-Council property and you cant even bolt a sat dish to the side because of our council
 

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i genuienly appriciate your replys my man, personally i think the only choice i have over copper is the mobile wifi, where i am is a Ex-Council property and you cant even bolt a sat dish to the side because of our council

Not a problem. I know what it’s like. When I first built, I had to get a dish on the roof because we didn’t have broadband and the copper wires were too old and faulty.

The Sat Dish was worse than dial-up. It was unbearable because I rely on the internet for my businesses.

I feel your pain, truly I do. But I’ll be honest with you, Toasty, 68-72mbps isn’t anything to sneeze at in an area that may not yet have been added to the Fibre infrastructure?
 

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Not a problem. I know what it’s like. When I first built, I had to get a dish on the roof because we didn’t have broadband and the copper wires were too old and faulty.

The Sat Dish was worse than dial-up. It was unbearable because I rely on the internet for my businesses.

I feel your pain, truly I do. But I’ll be honest with you, Toasty, 68-72mbps isn’t anything to sneeze at in an area that may not yet have been added to the Fibre infrastructure?
damn son thats bad, i remeber dial up well. my speed is good for what i do but it is slowly becoming just below of acceptable, been on this speed for 10 years now and my line is MAXED, we have had a few ISP and BT for us is the most stable so i think im gonna keep rolling with it :)
 

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Not sure how Virgin delivers their Fibre service but we had the same problem when we tried to change ISP recently. We have Fibre To The Cabinet, and a copper connection to the house.
When we tried to get another ISP, we were told that Internet wasn't yet available in our area ( even though we already had it).
The reason is that the green cabinets were full and no additional lines were available. If Virgin uses the Cabinet system as a main delivery point then individual fibre cabling from there that could be the reason.
 

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All the copper is being removed, and the exchanges are shut; it doesn't look like there are any firm plans for your postcode yet, but Openreach has your postcode to be done before December 2026.

All you can really do is hold out, and it will come.

As for finding a way to see if you can get tapped into the Virgin box, I think you may get a better answer by asking at a dedicated UK internet forum like ISPreview UK Forum
 

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    ASUS ROG Strix Helios Midi-Tower ARGB Gaming Case
    Cooling
    ASUS ROG Strix LC Performance RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 360mm
    Keyboard
    Logi Ergo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    900/100 Mbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Pro
    Other Info
    HP M281 Printer
    Logitech Brio Stream webcam
    Yeti X mic
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop
    CPU
    i7
65-75 Mbps is good, no reason to complain about that. Mine is 13 Mbps (extra cost 25 Mbps).

No Virgin Media at all in my UK town, copper/fibre/dialup. Postcode lookup with Virgin has always said no service.
The postcode you have given also says that, no service with Virgin, with BT as yet no Ultrafast(FTTP).

The bottom line is at least BT/Openreach whatever will provide FTTP within the next couple of years. Replacing the copper, keep checking.

FTTP - The road outside me appears to have 2 fibre companies one installed last year, various flyers with ISP services listed, and BT I think this year, just checked BT Ultrafast up to 900 Mbps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
I would be tickled to death if I could get consistent reliable 68-72 Mbps. I live 3 miles from town but there is no fiber and no plans of getting any. Over the years we've had every kind of satellite dish there is on our house. We've spent a fortune on connection fees. They've all been horrible, usage was capped, and most locked us into long contracts. The best we can get is a 50 Mbps unlimited wireless plan, but bandwidth to the tower is shared so during peak hours when everyone is streaming, I consider myself lucky to get 10 Mbps, usually closer to 5. To make matters worse, we can't depend on cellular data either as we're in a dead area. Usually we get enough of a cell signal to talk, but that's about it. Sometimes, I have to go outside to even do that. The wait list for Elon's Starlink is 2 years with another big connection fee.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.3737
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External +512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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