BSOD SETUP_FAILURE during repair install

BrianInEngland · Monday at 11:19 AM

Attempting to do a Repair install using the latest ISO from MS (26100. 4349)

Two attempts have failed at the same point. The initial copying process completes but the crash occurs after the first restart
I get the Windows logo and spinning circle for a minute or so (maybe longer) then the error

After restarting I can't get into Windows, I just get the logo but won't boot.
No other crashes, PC runs fine and is stable

Unable to get any logs as I can't get back into Windows after, I have to restore an image

suatcini54 · Monday at 12:12 PM

What was the reason you wanted to do a repair install of Windows ?

Do you have Secure Boot enabled in UEFI BIOS and did you do any manual Windows UEFI CA 2023 certificate updates recently ?

BrianInEngland · Monday at 12:24 PM

suatcini54 said:
What was the reason you wanted to do a repair install of Windows ?

Do you have Secure Boot enabled in UEFI BIOS and did you do any manual Windows UEFI CA 2023 certificate updates recently ?

I tend to do repairs when MS release a new ISO, no other reason than that.

Secure Boot is disabled, could that be a reason?

suatcini54 · Monday at 12:34 PM

When Secure Boot is disabled, Windows setup should complain and read that Windows cannot be installed on this computer upon booting to Windows installation media.

By the way, how did you attempt to repair Windows installation ? What is your current Windows Build ? 26100.4349 or earlier ?

BrianInEngland · Monday at 12:40 PM

suatcini54 said:
When Secure Boot is disabled, Windows setup should complain and read that Windows cannot be installed on this computer upon booting to Windows installation media.

By the way, how did you attempt to repair Windows installation ? What is your current Windows Build ? 26100.4349 or earlier ?

Secure boot always used to be optional - supported but not enabled has always worked

I'm using the current build which is slightly newer but that shouldn't make any difference, I've done repair using an even older 24H2 ISO before.

I ran Setup from the ISO while Windows was running, same as I've always done

Unless things have changed in the last few months...

suatcini54 · Monday at 12:51 PM

As I know, secure boot is a must unless you use Win 11 compatibility check bypass tricks.

When Windows is running, you can use System\Setup\mosetup "AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU" registry trick, which means you have an incompatible CPU and an incompatible TPM, namely TPM1.2. This enables you to upgrade or install over a current installation. But this again necessitates enabling Secure Boot.

If you like, please wait for more knowledgeable members to respond.

suatcini54 · Monday at 1:14 PM

I tried to install Windows 11 build 25200.5651 over build 26200.5670 in an Hyper-V VM without secure boot and TPM, I could not continue installation because Windows installer read that this PC must support TPM 2.0 chip, bla.. bla.., which I had disabled in Hyper-V settings along with Secure Boot.

But Windows on VM did not crash. Windows Installer aborted and ~~installed~~ current Windows continued running.

Please be advised.

zbook · Monday at 3:32 PM

Was a backup image restored successfully?

If not, what do you see when the computer is powered on?
(post an image or share link)

BrianInEngland · Monday at 3:35 PM

zbook said:
Was a backup image restored successfully?

If not, what do you see when the computer is powered on?
(post an image or share link)

Yes backup images restore correctly and will boot after

zbook · Monday at 3:38 PM

Please post a new V2 and Tuneup plus.

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BrianInEngland · Monday at 3:46 PM

zbook said:
Please post a new V2 and Tuneup plus.

BSOD - Posting Instructions

BSOD - Posting Instructions This will show you how to help provide needed information about your system and dump files. It will not contain any personal or sensitive information about you or your data. To get better help with your Windows BSOD issue, please read these instructions and follow...

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https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/bsod-crashes-debugging/360139d1645183596-batch-files-use-bsod-debugging-tuneup_plus_log.zip

Can't do as I can't boot into windows after the initial phase. After the BSOD windows won't boot, it's stuck on the Windows logo.
I have to then restore the image leaving no trace of the install failure

zbook · Monday at 3:56 PM

If the image was restored then these steps are to check the status now and see if there was anything related to the recent BSOD.

suatcini54 · 2025-07-01T06:51:17-0400

BrianInEngland said:
Secure boot always used to be optional - supported but not enabled has always worked

I'm using the current build which is slightly newer but that shouldn't make any difference, I've done repair using an even older 24H2 ISO before.

I ran Setup from the ISO while Windows was running, same as I've always done

Unless things have changed in the last few months...

Hi.

Upon your saying "Secure boot always used to be optional", I did some tests in a Hyper-V VM to check what is optional and not optional. I seldom clean-install Windows. I often do installations over existing installations. Therefore, I am not keen on what is required and what is not during Windows 11 installations.

Please find my findings (if you are interested): Scenarios of Installing Windows 11 Version 24H2 and Higher

I am also glad to hear you restored an image successfully. Did you find anything regarding what caused the upgrade failure.

Happy computing.

BrianInEngland · 2025-07-01T07:25:22-0400

suatcini54 said:
Hi.

Upon your saying "Secure boot always used to be optional", I did some tests in a Hyper-V VM to check what is optional and not optional. I seldom clean-install Windows. I often do installations over existing installations. Therefore, I am not keen on what is required and what is not during Windows 11 installations.

Please find my findings (if you are interested): Scenarios of Installing Windows 11 Version 24H2 and Higher

I am also glad to hear you restored an image successfully. Did you find anything regarding what caused the upgrade failure.

Happy computing.

So going by what you've posted, secure boot is needed unless I bypass the checks? Have I got that right?
The install process doesn't fail until AFTER it's written the new Windows image (blue install screen with the percentage complete), it crashes after the restart. Setup will allow the install without secure boot.

I'm thinking something has changed in the new ISO. Its not an immediate problem, I may try using the .1752 ISO I used in Feb. I'd know for sure then. I'm convinced it's a Windows issue rather than a hardware problem

suatcini54 · 2025-07-01T07:42:35-0400

@BrianInEngland I am sorry but I did not say anything about Secure Boot being needed. On the contrary I tried to say Secure Boot being on or off did not matter. What is more, I did not take any bypass measures in my tests.

Furthermore, I am not aware of any change in the 24H2 iso except for the CPU. CPU must have SSE4.2 and POPCNT instruction set. AMD CPU may have different names for these instruction sets. Otherwise, Windows 11 24H2 cannot boot.

My PC is 11 years old. But my CPU has the necessary instruction sets. It is incompatible in other ways, though.

I hope I made myself clear.

Have a nice day.

BrianInEngland · 2025-07-01T07:48:41-0400

suatcini54 said:
@BrianInEngland I am sorry but I did not say anything about Secure Boot being needed. On the contrary I tried to say Secure Boot being on or off did not matter. What is more, I did not take any bypass measures in my tests.

Furthermore, I am not aware of any change in the 24H2 iso except for the CPU. CPU must have SSE4.2 and POPCNT instruction set. AMD CPU may have different names for these instruction sets. Otherwise, Windows 11 24H2 cannot boot.

My PC is 11 years old. But my CPU has the necessary instruction sets. It is incompatible in other ways, though.

I hope I made myself clear.

Have a nice day.

Yes, sorry I didn't understand it first time!
My CPU is compatible - it's a 9800X3D.
I previously did an in-place upgrade back in Feb, it worked with no problems using build 26100.1752.

All other in-place upgrades have always worked in the past, but with .4349 I get an install failure BSOD. Two attempts exactly the same.

When you ran Setup from within Windows with Secure boot DISABLED, did it boot after the first restart?

BrianInEngland · 2025-07-01T08:04:56-0400

I'm wondering if the Samsung 9100 Pro is the problem - I bought this March, a month after my last in-place upgrade.
Compatibility problem maybe?

Other than a couple of BIOS updates I've changed nothing except the SSD

suatcini54 · 2025-07-01T08:06:59-0400

Unfortunately, I did not carry on with the installations to the end. I just checked whether installation would go on or not with the conditions set for test purposes. At that point I stopped. Otherwise, it would take hours and hours because I made many installation scenarios.

On that VM, build 26200.5670 is running without Secure Boot and TPM. But when I installed that build, I used bypass tricks.

suatcini54 · 2025-07-01T08:18:13-0400

BrianInEngland said:
I'm wondering if the Samsung 9100 Pro is the problem - I bought this March, a month after my last in-place upgrade.
Compatibility problem maybe?

Other than a couple of BIOS updates I've changed nothing except the SSD

May I suggest you should check if there is a Samsung SSD firmware update. You can use Samsung Magician Tool.

By the way, I tried to find firmware update but couldn't find one. Tool & Software Download | Samsung Semiconductor Global

BrianInEngland · 2025-07-01T08:29:55-0400

suatcini54 said:
May I suggest you should check if there is a Samsung SSD firmware update. You can use Samsung Magician Tool.

By the way, I tried to find firmware update but couldn't find one. Tool & Software Download | Samsung Semiconductor Global

Thanks for all your suggestions so far.
I'm leaning towards a compatibility problem with the Samsung drive, it was something I hadn't thought of when I originally posted. I checked the purchase date and it was March 8th, three weeks after my last in-place upgrade

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