Solved Can't easily upgrade W10 to W11 using these tricks. Strange.

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

Hi all -

Have a great machine that does not have hardware TPM and has a Core i7-3770 CPU. It's an HP HPE-1360T tower.

Enabled Secure Boot in the BIOS.

Tried the MoSetup thingy with no result for the CPU.

Cannot find "appraiserres.dll" file on this system.

Want to force a seamless upgrade to W11, not a clean install.
W10 Update still complains.

Any ideas that work would be appreciated, Lol.

Thanks.

fixer · Feb 12, 2023

First you need to convert your system disk to GPT if that isn't the case now. The upgrade itself is easy if you use a prepared flash drive, as I have just done. You should find everything you need here but do ensure your current system is imaged and you know how to restore it if necessary -

MBR to GPT and back again?

My LAN essentially consists of a WIn11 laptop and a Win10 PC. 95% of use is on the laptop but all files are stored on the PC. The PC has 120GB SSD housing Windows 10 and all software and a 1TB HDD with all data files, system images and a few VMs. There are other drives on the LAN, mostly used...

www.elevenforum.com

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

fixer said:
First you need to convert your system disk to GPT if that isn't the case now. The upgrade itself is easy if you use a prepared flash drive, as I have just done. You should find everything you need here -

MBR to GPT and back again?

My LAN essentially consists of a WIn11 laptop and a Win10 PC. 95% of use is on the laptop but all files are stored on the PC. The PC has 120GB SSD housing Windows 10 and all software and a 1TB HDD with all data files, system images and a few VMs. There are other drives on the LAN, mostly used...

www.elevenforum.com

System is GPT.

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

BTW - Running W10 Pro, 22H2.

Need to nuke TPM and CPU checks, then install via WU as an upgrade.

Bree · Feb 12, 2023

Compumind said:
Cannot find "appraiserres.dll" file on this system.

Want to force a seamless upgrade to W11, not a clean install.

When you start an in-place upgrade the setup files are copied from the ISO to the C: drive and setup runs from there. Appraserres.dll will now be in C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources. Do the upgrade while disconnected from the internet. Choose 'not right now' for how it checks for updates. Replace appraiserres.dll at this point before continuing with the upgrade.

Bree · Feb 12, 2023

fixer said:
First you need to convert your system disk to GPT if that isn't the case now.

Not necessary, I've upgraded MBR/legacy bios systems without any problems.

Bree · Feb 12, 2023

Compumind said:
Need to nuke TPM and CPU checks, then install via WU as an upgrade.

You will never get the upgrade to Win11 offered through Windows Update on an unsupported device. You can, with the appraiserres workaround, upgrade an unsupported device to 11 using an ISO to do an in-place upgrade.

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

Bree said:
You will never get the upgrade to Win11 offered through Windows Update on an unsupported device. You can, with the appraiserres workaround, upgrade an unsupported device to 11 using an ISO to do an in-place upgrade.

Hi Bree -

Where's the best place to D/L that ISO and please clarify the .dll workaround.
Should I create a Zero byte file?

Microsoft's ISO page is incredibly slow! Something wrong there.

Many thanks!

Bree · Feb 12, 2023

Compumind said:
What ISO should I best use (UUdump?) and please explain that .dll workaround.
I cannot find any "appraiserres.dll" file on this W10 system.

I use the ISO made with the MCT. The appraiserres.dll does not exist on your system until you start the in-place upgrade.

You need to make a zero sized file, create a new text document on your Desktop and rename it as appraiserres.dll. Disconnect from the internet, mount the ISO then run Setup.exe.

When you get to the 'Choose how Setup downloads updates' screen, delete C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\appraiserres.dll and replace it with the one you made. Then select 'not right now' for the update checks and continue with the upgrade. It will skip all the hardware checks and allow you to upgrade to 11.

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

Bree said:
I use the ISO made with the MCT. The appraiserres.dll does not exist on your system until you start the in-place upgrade.

You need to make a zero sized file, create a new text document on your Desktop and rename it as appraiserres.dll. Disconnect from the internet, mount the ISO then run Setup.exe.

When you get to the 'Choose how Setup downloads updates' screen, delete C:\$Windows.-BT\Sources\appraiserres.dll and replace it with the one you made. Then select 'not right now' for the update checks and continue with the upgrade. It will skip all the hardware checks and allow you to upgrade to 11.

Brilliant. Will do, thanks.

Compumind · Feb 12, 2023

@Bree -

Perhaps your post should be a sticky.
Well done and simple.

Bree · Feb 12, 2023

Compumind said:
Well done and simple.

sdowney717 · Jun 18, 2023

I just upgraded to win11 from win10, thank you Bree for the post on what to do. What I did was download a collection of files using the MCT designed to burn to an ISO. But did not burn any iso. I simply copied the folder of the files onto a flash drive and plugged it into the win10 PC. Ran setup, and followed the apprairseres.dll instructions. No mounting of an iso or anything special, just ran it from file manager. The win11 install took about 40 minutes to finish. I was having some severe issues with 10, and thought 11 would fix that, but it did not. What I then did was create a new admin account using net commands, and logged into the new account on a reboot, and everything worked again. my old 'sdown' user account is severely hosed and affected the entire operating of the PC very badly. I am just using the new account now on the PC.

Bree · Jun 18, 2023

sdowney717 said:
The win11 install took about 40 minutes to finish. I was having some severe issues with 10, and thought 11 would fix that, but it did not. What I then did was create a new admin account using net commands, and logged into the new account on a reboot, and everything worked again. my old 'sdown' user account is severely hosed and affected the entire operating of the PC very badly.

I'm glad the tip helped you install 11 smoothly. Yes, sometimes the only fix for a corrupted account is to ditch it and create a new one.