Crucial External SSD Now Seen as HDD in Windows (Defrag)


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I never had an issue before. However, some bug in Windows 11 24H2 now has my wife's Crucial external SSD recognized as a HDD...which means it doesn't TRIM and I'm definitely not comfortable "defragging" it. I have tried the winsat formal command (that only seems to affect the internal SSD) as well as removing the drive in Disk Management, removing it, and then reinstalling it. No luck. How can I get it back to properly recognizing as a SSD? It is on the lastest firmware too.
 

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    Intel i7-7700K
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    Asus Prime Z-270A
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    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
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    1TB Western Digital SN770 (System) and 2TB Western Digital SN770 (Storage)
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    Windows 11 Home
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    i9-11900H
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    32GB
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    2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum
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You're right to be concerned. Windows 11 24H2 has introduced a regression that is affecting how some USB-connected SSDs are identified—particularly those using certain chipsets or enclosures. If the system recognises the drive as a rotational hard disk (HDD), Windows will disable TRIM and schedule defrag instead, which is bad for SSD health.

### Here's a breakdown of what to do:

---

### ✅ **Confirm Windows really sees it as an HDD**

1. Run this in an elevated PowerShell window:

```powershell
Get-PhysicalDisk | Select FriendlyName, MediaType
```

If the `MediaType` shows `HDD` instead of `SSD` for the Crucial external, the problem is confirmed.

---

### 🔍 **Why this is happening**

Windows determines media type via the **UASP driver** (USB Attached SCSI Protocol) or the standard USB Mass Storage driver, depending on the enclosure and its chipset. If the enclosure doesn’t report media type properly (or if Windows 11 now ignores it), it defaults to `HDD`.

Many Crucial external SSDs use enclosures with ASMedia or JMicron chipsets, and these are vulnerable to this misclassification in 24H2.

---

### 🛠️ **Potential fixes or workarounds**

#### 1. **Force-enable TRIM manually (not ideal, but possible)**

You can use the command below to trigger TRIM on demand, though it's a workaround, not a fix:

```cmd
defrag X: /L
```

Replace `X:` with the SSD's drive letter. The `/L` option invokes **retrim**, not defrag.

⚠️ **Make sure you're using `/L`, not `/O` or `/U`, which can defrag.**

---

#### 2. **Check the USB controller driver**

* Go to **Device Manager > Universal Serial Bus controllers**.
* Right-click on the relevant controller (usually **USB Attached SCSI**, if present) and choose **Update driver > Browse > Let me pick**, then experiment with different drivers (Microsoft’s native vs OEM).
* Sometimes forcing the **UASP driver** (if available) corrects the media type.

---

#### 3. **Use a different USB enclosure** (only if practical)

Some enclosures properly report SSD media type. Look for ones that advertise UASP support *and* compatibility with Windows TRIM (e.g. Orico, Inateck with VL711 or ASM235CM chipsets).

---

#### 4. **Roll back or report the bug to Microsoft**

If this was working prior to 24H2, and it’s not hardware-related, then it is **Microsoft’s fault**. You can:

* Submit feedback via **Feedback Hub** under **Devices and Drivers > Disk and Storage**.
* If you’re on the Insider program, include regression notes.

---

### ❌ Avoid:

* **Defragging** the SSD, even if Windows suggests it. That causes unnecessary write cycles and degrades SSD lifespan.
* Relying on the GUI "Optimize Drives" utility. It's not trustworthy in this context since it uses the reported media type.

---

### Summary

* Windows 11 24H2 has likely changed the way USB-connected storage media are classified.
* It may now incorrectly treat your wife’s Crucial SSD as an HDD.
* You can manually run TRIM using `defrag X: /L`, try a different enclosure, or force a UASP driver.
* The ultimate fix depends on Microsoft correcting this regression—or using different hardware that reports media type reliably.

Would you like help identifying the chipset in your current Crucial external drive to confirm if it’s a known offender?


This response is from ChatGPT which is very good on Windows problems.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3915
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
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    fanless
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    150 Mbps
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    Webroot Secure Anywhere
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    ASUS T100TA Transformer
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    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
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    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
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    Laptop
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    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
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    Atom N450 1.66GHz
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    2GB
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    Brave
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    Webroot
What is the exact model of your SSD? I tried Get-PhysicalDisk | Select FriendlyName, MediaType on my USB Crucial X Pro, and it identifies as an SSD. My laptop is on 24H2 fully updated.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3915
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Mine was listed under Storage Controllers, not Universal Serial Bus controllers.

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3915
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD 2TB
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I'm on travel right now but as soon as I'm home later this week I'll try out your recommendations. As for the drive itself, I believe it is a 2TB Crucial X9 (can't remember if Pro or not).
 

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom
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    Intel i7-7700K
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    Asus Prime Z-270A
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    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
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    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Western Digital SN770 (System) and 2TB Western Digital SN770 (Storage)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Dell/XPS 15 9510
    CPU
    i9-11900H
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel and Nvidia 3050Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    None
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (non-Touch)
    Hard Drives
    2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
Well...issue resolved itself...for now. I just got back from travel and went to take a look at it again...with your above advice. It was showing as SSD again...good. There was a monthly update on Tuesday so it's possible that it fixed it. Hopefully it doesn't come back:)
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Western Digital SN770 (System) and 2TB Western Digital SN770 (Storage)
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/XPS 15 9510
    CPU
    i9-11900H
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Integrated Intel and Nvidia 3050Ti
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    None
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (non-Touch)
    Hard Drives
    2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
Windows 11 24H2 has introduced a regression that is affecting how some USB-connected SSDs are identified
Great info, sir!
 

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    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self-built
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    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
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    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
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    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
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    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Just some more info., I have 3 USB drives attached and this is how they show in Device Manager they have Quick Removal checked:

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
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    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
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    24" Dell
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    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
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    Firefox, Edge
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    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security

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