Solved Drive cloning - Aomei or Macrium - my experience


rpetruzz

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Yesterday I had a challenging experience upgrading my PC's main boot drive. I had a great 1tb Corsair Force MP600 Gen4 M.2 2280 ssd as my boot drive, but I read about the WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe SSD Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280 with almost twice the through put. So on a lark I bought one.

Some background, I had experience with Aomei Partition Assistant (purchased version) when I wanted to upgrade my PC to Windows 11 Pro but my boot drive was MBR. Aomei PA did a great job converting my drive in-place to GPT with EUFI. I also had tried Macrium Reflect (purchased version too) in the past but thought it too complicated for me.

So I started out by putting the new WD ssd into the 2nd nvme slot on my ASUS X570-E motherboard and used Aomei PA to "clone" my Corsair ssd to the Western Digital ssd. I used the Clone Wizard with "Quick Clone". It all went smoothly until I looked at the cloned drive with Disk Manager in Win 11 Pro.

While all the data had been cloned looking in Windows Explorer everything looked fine, in DM all the partitions were there, but everything "technical" was a horror show.

On the source boot drive the main partition was C: All other partions didn't have a drive letter assigned. The new ssd prior to Aomei cloning should have been D:. But, after cloning by Aomei the new main data partion was H: and the new recovery partion was I: and what should have been the EUFI partion was a standard partion and was J: AND the drive was MBR not GPT as was my boot drive.

I tried to boot with the newly cloned ssd on my ASUS M/B and phhttt. Not gonna happen.
Not to make this longer than necessary I'll say I tried a number of times to have Aomei clone my boot drive including at the end using Disk Manager to remove the drive letters and having Aomei convert from MBR to GPT on the cloned drive. To no avail. Realizing I was bordering on insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting better results I gave up on Aomei PA.

I decided to give my purchased version of Macrium Reflect a try. It was that or just use my Recovery USB and doing a clean install and installing all my programs again on the new ssd.

Well Macrium Reflect just did it. The resulting clone drive was a perfect image of my Corsair boot drive when viewed in both Windows Explorer and more importantly Windows 11 Disk Manager. As I expected it was a D: drive and no wonky drive letters assigned to unnecessary partitions.

I plugged in the cloned drive into my motherboard and whooop it booted like it had been there for years.

Did I not do something wrong with Aomei... I'll never know but going forward it's all Macrium Reflect for me.
 
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Did I not do something wrong with Aomei...
It worked with your previous migration, so yes probably.
 

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@rpetruzz

Personally, I just use images, rather than cloning.
This seems to work across all backup software.

In your case, in AOMEI, you should have probably just taken a Disk image, and then restore it to the new drive.
That would bring the system partition(s), and any other partitions... to the new drive.


On a side note... Macrium is far more powerful than AOMEI, without the bloat of Acronis.
Most of us on here... use Macrium already.



The link to the Macrium Reflect user guide is in here...

 
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"Most" maybe, but not all.
Since 1997, I've used only one program for all by backups and Cloning.
I'm still using an upgrade of that original program. It's still Called "Ghost" and still works, every time, without fail.
I've talked about "Ghost" extensively, so I won't go into all that again. Nobody listens anyway. :tears:

I just want to say, "if your backup program is not working properly for you, then maybe you're using the wrong program."

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Since today the bootmedia of the latest Macrium takes a lot of time for testing the diskwrite-speed ( starts when making a backup) , it takes about 1 hour for making a backup !!
Used to be about 5 minutes !
When going back to a previous backup , all went fine ( in 4 minutes )
Did a disk-check ; no errors found ..........
What could be wrong........???? :unsure:

Tried to backup to another HDD , this time no problems , went very fast !
So , have to check the HDD , which I always used for backups , with a disk-check.............
 
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I've talked about "Ghost" extensively, so I won't go into all that again. Nobody listens anyway. :tears:

I just want to say, "if your backup program is not working properly for you, then maybe you're using the wrong program."
Ghost is a pile of crap by modern standards, and I am convinced you are just saying what you do say about Ghost to try and pretend you know what you are talking about.

Last sentence is ridiculous - all main players are fine - if the program is not working, in most cases, it is almost certainly an issue with users pc, not the actual program.
 

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TechnoMage2021: I warned you previously not to open the Ghost can of worms. lol​

 

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"Most" maybe, but not all.
Since 1997, I've used only one program for all by backups and Cloning.
I'm still using an upgrade of that original program. It's still Called "Ghost" and still works, every time, without fail.
I've talked about "Ghost" extensively, so I won't go into all that again. Nobody listens anyway. :tears:

I just want to say, "if your backup program is not working properly for you, then maybe you're using the wrong program."

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I remember Ghost, acquired by Symantec. Never used it, can it do Windows to Go? I like the feature of using WTG on different PCs
 

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I remember Ghost, acquired by Symantec. Never used it, can it do Windows to Go? I like the feature of using WTG on different PCs
No it cannot.
 

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I take the same approach as @Ghot I don't mess around with cloning when I can restore an image and manage resizing partitions in one go. In all my years of messing with computers I have never once cloned a drive. Because I trust it, I have no problem recommending my backup solution to anyone else because it's what works for me. But whatever works for the next guy is his business. Whether I think highly of his backup solution or not is immaterial. I'm just glad he backs up at all. It's all the non-backeruppers that I have little patience with.
 

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