Privacy and Security Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection Windows 11


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This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Enhanced Phishing protection in Windows 11.

Microsoft Defender SmartScreen protects against phishing or malware websites and applications, and the downloading of potentially malicious files.

Starting with Windows 11 build 22593, Microsoft is introducing two powerful new features that strike against the most common cyberattack techniques: phishing and targeted malware. New in Windows 11 is enhanced phishing detection and protection built into Windows with Microsoft Defender SmartScreen. This new feature will help protect users from phishing attacks by identifying and alerting users when they are entering their Microsoft credentials into a malicious application or hacked website. Smart App Control uses code signing alongside Microsoft’s powerful artificial intelligence models to ensure that only trusted applications are run, blocking one of the largest attack vectors on Windows by-default.

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Starting with Windows 11 version 22H2 KB5030310 Build 22621.2361, Enhanced Phishing Protection in Microsoft Defender SmartScreen helps protect Microsoft school or work passwords against phishing and unsafe usage on sites and apps. Microsoft is trying out a change starting with this build where users who have enabled warning options for Windows Security under App & browser control > Reputation-based protection > Phishing protection will see a UI warning on unsafe password copy and paste, just as they currently see when they type in their password.


You must be signed in as an administrator to turn on or off Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing protection.



Contents

  • Option One: Turn On or Off Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection in Settings
  • Option Two: Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection in Local Group Policy Editor
  • Option Three: Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection using REG file


EXAMPLE: Phishing protection warning

Microsoft_Defender_SmartScreen_Phising_protection_warning.png
Notify_Password_Reuse.png
Notify_Unsafe_App.png





Option One

Turn On or Off Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection in Settings


1 Open Windows Security.

2 Click/tap on App & browser control. (see screenshot below)

Microsoft_Defender_SmartScreen_Phising_protection-1.png

3 Click/tap on the Reputation-based protection settings link. (see screenshot below)

Microsoft_Defender_SmartScreen_Phising_protection-2.png

4 Turn On (default) or Off Phishing protection for what you want. (see screenshots below step 6)

5 Click/tap on Yes when prompted by UAC to approve.

6 If you turned on Phishing protection, you can check (on) (default) or uncheck (off) the following for the warnings you want: (see screenshots below)

You will need to click/tap on Yes when prompted by UAC to approve each item below.

  • Warn me about malicious applications and websites
  • Warn me about password reuse
  • Warn me about insecure password storage
  • Automatically collect website or app content when additional analysis is needed to help identify security threats
Microsoft_Defender_SmartScreen_Phising_protection-3.png
Microsoft_Defender_SmartScreen_Phising_protection-4.png

7 You can now close Windows Security if you like.




Option Two

Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection in Local Group Policy Editor


The Local Group Policy Editor is only available in the Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions.

All editions can use Option Three to configure the same policy.


1 Open the Local Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc).

2 Navigate to the policy location below in the left pane of the Local Group Policy Editor. (see screenshot below)

Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Defender SmartScreen > Enhanced Phishing Protection​

Enhanced_Phishing_Protection_gpedit-1.png

3 Do step 4 (Automatic Data Collection), step 5 (Notify Malicious), step 6 (Notify Password Reuse), step 7 (Notify Unsafe App), and/or step 8 (Service Enabled) below for which policies you want to configure.

4 Enable or Disable "Automatically collect website or app content when additional analysis is needed to help identify security threats"

A) In the right pane of Enhanced Phishing Protection in the Local Group Policy Editor, double click/tap on the Automatic Data Collection policy to edit it. (see screenshot below step 2)​

B) Select (dot) Not Configured (default), Enabled, or Disabled for what you want, and click/tap on OK.​

Enabled or Disabled will override Option One.


C) Go to step 9.​

Automatic_Data_Collection_gpedit.png

5 Enable or Disable "Warn me about malicious apps and sites"

A) In the right pane of Enhanced Phishing Protection in the Local Group Policy Editor, double click/tap on the Notify Malicious policy to edit it. (see screenshot below step 2)​

B) Select (dot) Not Configured (default), Enabled, or Disabled for what you want, and click/tap on OK.​

Enabled or Disabled will override Option One.


C) Go to step 9.​

Enhanced_Phishing_Protection_gpedit-3.png

6 Enable or Disable "Warn me about password reuse"

A) In the right pane of Enhanced Phishing Protection in the Local Group Policy Editor, double click/tap on the Notify Password Reuse policy to edit it. (see screenshot below step 2)​

B) Select (dot) Not Configured (default), Enabled, or Disabled for what you want, and click/tap on OK.​

Enabled or Disabled will override Option One.


C) Go to step 9.​

Enhanced_Phishing_Protection_gpedit-4.png

7 Enable or Disable "Warn me about unsafe password storage"

A) In the right pane of Enhanced Phishing Protection in the Local Group Policy Editor, double click/tap on the Notify Unsafe App policy to edit it. (see screenshot below step 2)​

B) Select (dot) Not Configured (default), Enabled, or Disabled for what you want, and click/tap on OK.​

Enabled or Disabled will override Option One.


C) Go to step 9.​

Enhanced_Phishing_Protection_gpedit-5.png

8 Enable or Disable Phishing Protection

A) In the right pane of Enhanced Phishing Protection in the Local Group Policy Editor, double click/tap on the Service Enabled policy to edit it. (see screenshot below step 2)​

B) Select (dot) Not Configured (default), Enabled, or Disabled for what you want, and click/tap on OK.​

Enabled or Disabled will override Option One.


C) Go to step 9.​

Enhanced_Phishing_Protection_gpedit-2.png

9 When finished, you can close the Local Group Policy Editor if you like.




Option Three

Enable or Disable Microsoft Defender SmartScreen Phishing Protection using REG file


1 Do step 2 (Automatic Data Collection), step 3 (Notify Malicious), step 4 (Notify Password Reuse), step 5 (Notify Unsafe App), or step 6 (Service Enabled) below for which policies you want to configure.


 2. Enable or Disable "Automatically collect website or app content when additional analysis is needed to help identify security threats"

Enable or Disable will override Option One.


A) Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .reg file you want below, and go to step 7 below.​

Default_user_choice_Automatic_Data_Collection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"CaptureThreatWindow"=-

OR​

Force_enable_Automatic_Data_Collection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"CaptureThreatWindow"=dword:00000001

OR​

Force_disable_Automatic_Data_Collection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"CaptureThreatWindow"=dword:00000000


 3. Enable or Disable "Warn me about malicious apps and sites"

Enable or Disable will override Option One.


A) Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .reg file you want below, and go to step 7 below.​

Default_user_choice_notify_malicious.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyMalicious"=-

OR​

Force_enable_notify_malicious.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyMalicious"=dword:00000001

OR​

Force_disable_notify_malicious.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyMalicious"=dword:00000000


 4. Enable or Disable "Warn me about password reuse"

Enable or Disable will override Option One.


A) Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .reg file you want below, and go to step 7 below.​

Default_user_choice_notify_password_reuse.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyPasswordReuse"=-

OR​

Force_enable_notify_password_reuse.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyPasswordReuse"=dword:00000001

OR​

Force_disable_notify_password_reuse.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyPasswordReuse"=dword:00000000


 5. Enable or Disable "Warn me about unsafe password storage"

Enable or Disable will override Option One.


A) Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .reg file you want below, and go to step 7 below.​

Default_user_choice_notify_unsafe.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyUnsafeApp"=-

OR​

Force_enable_notify_unsafe.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyUnsafeApp"=dword:00000001

OR​

Force_disable_notify_unsafe.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"NotifyUnsafeApp"=dword:00000000


 6. Enable or Disable "Enable or Disable Phishing Protection"

Enable or Disable will override Option One.


A) Click/tap on the Download button below to download the .reg file you want below, and go to step 7 below.​

Default_user_choice_enhanced_phishing_protection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"ServiceEnabled"=-

OR​

Force_enable_enhanced_phishing_protection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"ServiceEnabled"=dword:00000001

OR​

Force_disable_enhanced_phishing_protection.reg​


(Contents of REG file for reference)
Code: 
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components]
"ServiceEnabled"=dword:00000000

7 Save the .reg file to your desktop.

8 Double click/tap on the downloaded .reg file to merge it.

9 When prompted, click/tap on Run, Yes (UAC), Yes, and OK to approve the merge.

10 You can now delete the downloaded .reg file(s) if you like.


That's it,
Shawn Brink


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Tutorial updated to add options 2 and 3 for group policy options. :-)
 

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Hi. I'm having troubles activating Phishing Protection.
So, I was just checking that all important things are on in "App & browser control". I found out Phishing protection function was turned off.

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I clicked on the toggle, and it seemed like Phishing protection started working - checkboxes and toggle became blue.
But once I restarted my PC, I found out Phishing protection for some unknown reason was turned off. As an experiment, I tried enabling it again and restarting - the result was same, it got disabled.
Since I have Home version of Windows 11, I used the .reg files from this article to activate all functions. I restarted the PC, and none of the functions got to work. Once I clicked on the toggle, I got it "turned on" with "This setting is being managed..." precaution:

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I, then, restarted my PC once again, and the function once again got disabled.
I tried the "Repair" button in Settings>Apps>Installed apps>Windows Security and redid all the steps, but the problem continued to persist.
I also tried the sfc /scannow and DISM scan,check health commands - no errors.
Please help me to find the solution for this problem.
 

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This must've been broken with the latest September update. I updated my second PC (Phishing Protection worked correctly on it with August updates) and the function got disabled.
 

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No it isn't fixed with the latest updates! we are at Aug 8 2024 and it doesn't work - turned all the Phishing protection on, restarted - all switches are turned off back again. You can do it over and over, nothing changes.
 

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GoodFellow said:
No it isn't fixed with the latest updates! we are at Aug 8 2024 and it doesn't work - turned all the Phishing protection on, restarted - all switches are turned off back again. You can do it over and over, nothing changes.
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Hello, :alien:

Just to verify, did you try the force enable REG files in option 3?
 

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No, I didn't, but a statement "Fixed with the latest updates!" implies in my opinion that the usual Windows 11 GUI is working which does not! If somebody thinks tweaking the registry to get it to work after update means the same as "Fixed with the latest updates!", then I have a strongly different view of what the common sense of it is.

By the way, for some reason I don't have the registry folder HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components and I am struggling a little bit with the idea to create the folders WTDS\Components on my own. Is it a matter of Windows 11 Home edition I have?
 

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GoodFellow said:
No, I didn't, but a statement "Fixed with the latest updates!" implies in my opinion that the usual Windows 11 GUI is working which does not! If somebody thinks tweaking the registry to get it to work after update means the same as "Fixed with the latest updates!", then I have a strongly different view of what the common sense of it is.

By the way, for some reason I don't have the registry folder HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WTDS\Components and I am struggling a little bit with the idea to create the folders WTDS\Components on my own. Is it a matter of Windows 11 Home edition I have?
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The registry keys and values don't get added unless the policy is configured.
 

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As far as I know policies is a Windows 11 Pro feature, isn't it? At least that is stated above: "The Local Group Policy Editor is only available in the Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions". Are you talking about something else?

How am I supposed to configure policies on a Windows 11 Home machine? What do you mean?
 

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GoodFellow said:
As far as I know policies is a Windows 11 Pro feature, isn't it? At least that is stated above: "The Local Group Policy Editor is only available in the Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions". Are you talking about something else?

How am I supposed to configure policies on a Windows 11 Home machine? What do you mean?
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gpedit.msc in option two is only available for those editions, but you can use option three to configure the same policy in all editions.
 

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    Microsoft Defender
No, you can't use the option three, because I just tryed it out on my Windows 11 Home Edition and it doesn't work. The protection remains off. To be honest I have big doubts any of these three options work unless you've made the proof on the Pro edition?

But even if you would be able to get it to work on a Pro edition by editing a registry key, I want to point out that it would still remain a work around. It can't be declared as expected system behaviour that changes you made in Windows security settings automatically get back off (undone) next time you restart the system. The feature is clearly either broken and needs Microsoft's attention or we don't understand when, under which conditions, it is supposed to work? May be it's working only if I use password to sign in in Windows and it's not working by design since I use a PIN to sign in?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M17xR3 (2011)
    CPU
    i7-2960XM
    Motherboard
    Alienware HM67 SandyBridge
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston DDR3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    native 17" 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2xSSD Kingston SHSS37A 240GB at SATA-6
    PSU
    330W
    Case
    Alienware Notebook
    Cooling
    Air cooling: SilverStone Shark Force Lüfter, 140
    Keyboard
    Speedlink LEVIA
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
GoodFellow said:
No, you can't use the option three, because I just tryed it out on my Windows 11 Home Edition and it doesn't work. The protection remains off. To be honest I have big doubts any of these three options work unless you've made the proof on the Pro edition?

But even if you would be able to get it to work on a Pro edition by editing a registry key, I want to point out that it would still remain a work around. It can't be declared as expected system behaviour that changes you made in Windows security settings automatically get back off (undone) next time you restart the system. The feature is clearly either broken and needs Microsoft's attention or we don't understand when, under which conditions, it is supposed to work? May be it's working only if I use password to sign in in Windows and it's not working by design since I use a PIN to sign in?
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Whether or not it works is a different issue. Appears to be a bug then.

While you cannot use gpedit.msc in the Home edition to configure group policies, you are indeed able to manually configure group policies in all editions in Registry Editor or using a REG file like in option three.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Well, now I configured a group policy that isn't working. Great. :LOL: I don't think that's what it is about to go and configure something that isn't working to talk/write about it as if it would work. Are you serious? This is not an option, this is a waste of time. Pretending something is solved or having a work around in place while none of both is true is just ridiculous, again with all respect. I don't want to blaim anybody for trying to create a working solution, it only deserves thank and gratefulness which I really have, but if something isn't working I feel the need to report it, so that other users don't waste time on trying to fix something we don't have a fix for yet. That's all.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M17xR3 (2011)
    CPU
    i7-2960XM
    Motherboard
    Alienware HM67 SandyBridge
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston DDR3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    native 17" 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2xSSD Kingston SHSS37A 240GB at SATA-6
    PSU
    330W
    Case
    Alienware Notebook
    Cooling
    Air cooling: SilverStone Shark Force Lüfter, 140
    Keyboard
    Speedlink LEVIA
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
GoodFellow said:
Well, now I configured a group policy that isn't working. Great. :LOL: I don't think that's what it is about to go and configure something that isn't working to talk/write about it as if it would work. Are you serious? This is not an option, this is a waste of time. Pretending something is solved or having a work around in place while none of both is true is just ridiculous, again with all respect. I don't want to blaim anybody for trying to create a working solution, it only deserves thank and gratefulness which I really have, but if something isn't working I feel the need to report it, so that other users don't waste time on trying to fix something we don't have a fix for yet. That's all.
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It normally works, but obviously there's some issue with this feature for your installation.

You can undo the polices by using the default settings in option three.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
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Well, that was one of my questions - do you know any system where it works? As of what I can see here the post of Sep 29, 2023 by Sttranga describes exactly my experience with this feature - it doesn't work whichever option I go for and I think it matches the experience on many other Windows 11 machines, but of course I don't have the proof. However it is also not proven that it works, so for me there is no working solution in place as there is nothing special about my Windows 11 installation, not that I know... It seems to be the rule rather than exception.

There is no need to revert the policies because they have no impact, so it was a nice try. :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M17xR3 (2011)
    CPU
    i7-2960XM
    Motherboard
    Alienware HM67 SandyBridge
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston DDR3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    native 17" 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2xSSD Kingston SHSS37A 240GB at SATA-6
    PSU
    330W
    Case
    Alienware Notebook
    Cooling
    Air cooling: SilverStone Shark Force Lüfter, 140
    Keyboard
    Speedlink LEVIA
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
GoodFellow said:
Well, that was one of my questions - do you know any system where it works? As of what I can see here the post of Sep 29, 2023 by Sttranga describes exactly my experience with this feature - it doesn't work whichever option I go for and I think it matches the experience on many other Windows 11 machines, but of course I don't have the proof. However it is also not proven that it works, so for me there is no working solution in place as there is nothing special about my Windows 11 installation, not that I know... It seems to be the rule rather than exception.

There is no need to revert the policies because they have no impact, so it was a nice try. :-)
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It currently works on my desktop and laptops system's build 27686 (Canary) installation.

The policies was an attempt to force enable it since you weren't able to via Windows Security. If you like, go ahead and post a screenshot showing the full Windows Security window with these settings like in option one to see if anything may stand out.

If you have any 3rd party security apps installed, they can sometimes cause issues like this.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Good to know, well, I have the build 22631.4037 23H2, that could explain why it sn't working. As far as I understood you applied the option three, did you? Or was it the option two?

On my machine no third party security is installed. Currently I am thinking of installing Malwarebytes, but not done yet.

I am not sure that my security settings screen will help anything or anyone here, it is pretty much the same as above in dark :) However, here we go, just to document it, nothing is changed here after applying the REG-Option to switch it on:

1724259221229.png
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M17xR3 (2011)
    CPU
    i7-2960XM
    Motherboard
    Alienware HM67 SandyBridge
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston DDR3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    native 17" 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2xSSD Kingston SHSS37A 240GB at SATA-6
    PSU
    330W
    Case
    Alienware Notebook
    Cooling
    Air cooling: SilverStone Shark Force Lüfter, 140
    Keyboard
    Speedlink LEVIA
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
GoodFellow said:
Good to know, well, I have the build 22631.4037 23H2, that could explain why it sn't working. As far as I understood you applied the option three, did you? Or was it the option two?

On my machine no third party security is installed. Currently I am thinking of installing Malwarebytes, but not done yet.

I am not sure that my security settings screen will help anything or anyone here, it is pretty much the same as above in dark :) However, here we go, just to document it, nothing is changed here after applying the REG-Option to switch it on:

View attachment 105676
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I tested all three options with no issue.

I do also have Malwarebytes installed running with Microsoft Defender, and haven't had any issues from it so far.

When you try to turn on "Phishing protection" in Windows Security, do you get prompted by UAC to approve?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self build
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING (11GB GDDR5X)
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G75 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    TerraMaster F8 SSD Plus NAS
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3 wall mounted
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gbps Download and 35 Mbps Upload
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop 7 Copilot+ PC
    CPU
    Snapdragon X Elite (12 core) 3.42 GHz
    Memory
    16 GB LPDDR5x-7467 MHz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" HDR
    Screen Resolution
    2496 x 1664
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Internet Speed
    Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.4
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Brink said:
When you try to turn on "Phishing protection" in Windows Security, do you get prompted by UAC to approve?
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Yes, I do. In fact I already turned it on several times, first time as I saw it turned off again I thought "wtf, didn't I turned it on recently? I am pretty sure I did..." Then I turned it on the second time and restarted. And after that I became aware that Windows 11 just keeps turning it back off all over again and then I went to the forum looking for advice...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M17xR3 (2011)
    CPU
    i7-2960XM
    Motherboard
    Alienware HM67 SandyBridge
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston DDR3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    native 17" 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    2xSSD Kingston SHSS37A 240GB at SATA-6
    PSU
    330W
    Case
    Alienware Notebook
    Cooling
    Air cooling: SilverStone Shark Force Lüfter, 140
    Keyboard
    Speedlink LEVIA
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    50 Mb/s
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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