Network and Internet Enable or Disable Network Connectivity in Modern Standby in Windows 11

hdmi · Jan 11, 2023

The EnforceDisconnectedStandby dword flag in the above example I linked from Dell appears to be used to toggle whether Wake-On-LAN (WOL) should be enabled (0) or disabled (1) during a Modern Standby sleep session. Wake On LAN for Surface devices - Surface
I suppose that if WOL is enabled, this may cause the network adapter to still consume at least some additional power during a Modern Standby sleep session (even, if Network Connectivity is disabled before the system enters the Modern Standby sleep session).

Try3 · Jan 19, 2023

hdmi said:
Please note that, Windows 10 version 2004 onwards, the hidden registry setting that this tutorial applies to is deprecated.

Allow networking during standby

Specifies whether to allow networking during standby.

learn.microsoft.com

It means that the setting may still work, but at some point in the future Microsoft could decide to make it stop working. You'd have to verify that it still works, each time after a Windows update is installed that upgrades Windows to a new build number.

Also please note, on some systems it may be possible to use a separate setting that is included in the Power Profile. As an example of this, you can refer to the top of page 5 in this document:

https://dl.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_solutions_int/esuprt_solutions_int_solutions_resources/client-mobile-solution-resources_white-papers45_en-us.pdf

MS could obviously change this on a whim as well but, for now, the Connected/Disconnected Standby setting can be retrieved using, for example,

powercfg /qh SCHEME_BALANCED SUB_NONE CONNECTIVITYINSTANDBY

The relevant entries exist whether or not the computer has even heard of S0 Modern standby.

Power Scheme GUID: 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e (Balanced)
GUID Alias: SCHEME_BALANCED
Subgroup GUID: fea3413e-7e05-4911-9a71-700331f1c294 (Settings belonging to no subgroup)
GUID Alias: SUB_NONE
Power Setting GUID: f15576e8-98b7-4186-b944-eafa664402d9 (Networking connectivity in Standby)
GUID Alias: CONNECTIVITYINSTANDBY
Possible Setting Index: 000
Possible Setting Friendly Name: Disable
Possible Setting Index: 001
Possible Setting Friendly Name: Enable
Possible Setting Index: 002
Possible Setting Friendly Name: Managed by Windows
Current AC Power Setting Index: 0x00000000
Current DC Power Setting Index: 0x00000000

In Version 1709, this setting had a different alias
powercfg /qh SCHEME_BALANCED SUB_NONE WIFIINSTANDBY
with the same GUID as the current CONNECTIVITYINSTANDBY
f15576e8-98b7-4186-b944-eafa664402d9
so both current & past versions can be interrogated with

powercfg /qh SCHEME_BALANCED SUB_NONE f15576e8-98b7-4186-b944-eafa664402d9

hdmi said:
The EnforceDisconnectedStandby dword flag in the above example I linked from Dell appears to be used to toggle whether Wake-On-LAN (WOL) should be enabled (0) or disabled (1) during a Modern Standby sleep session.

ConnectedStandby is a necessary precursor to being able to Wake-on-lan.

Denis

CmdrKeene · Jun 7, 2023

This continues to be so frustrating. I've got a laptop that supports modern standby and I want to let it drop to sleep mode, but I don't like having it interrupt my network connectivity and disconnect (among other examples) any RDP sessions I have active. Every time my computer drops to sleep I will come back, juggle the mouse, and see the RDP disconnection dialog saying the connection was lost. But I've tried GP and registry and still no networking while in standby.

Try3 · Jun 7, 2023

Does it think it has networking in S0 Modern standby?
It is reported in the response to the command
PowerCfg -a
After Standby (S0 Low power idle) it will say either Network connected or Network disconnected.
How to Check if Connected or Disconnected Modern Standby [PowerCfg -a] - TenForumsTutorials
[It's the same procedure in both Win10 & WIn11.]

Denis

CmdrKeene · Jun 8, 2023

Try3 said:
Does it think it has networking in S0 Modern standby?
It is reported in the response to the command
PowerCfg -a
After Standby (S0 Low power idle) it will say either Network connected or Network disconnected.
How to Check if Connected or Disconnected Modern Standby [PowerCfg -a] - TenForumsTutorials
[It's the same procedure in both Win10 & WIn11.]

Denis

Supposedly it is available for network connected. And I could have sworn this worked at some point. This laptop is never off the AC dock, it basically is treated like a desktop.

Here's output from that command.

Code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22631.1830]
(c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>PowerCfg -a
The following sleep states are available on this system:
    Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Connected

The following sleep states are not available on this system:
    Standby (S1)
        The system firmware does not support this standby state.
        This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

    Standby (S2)
        The system firmware does not support this standby state.
        This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

    Standby (S3)
        The system firmware does not support this standby state.
        This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.
        The current Device Guard configuration has disabled this standby state.

    Hibernate
        Hibernation has not been enabled.

    Hybrid Sleep
        Standby (S3) is not available.
        Hibernation is not available.
        The hypervisor does not support this standby state.

    Fast Startup
        Hibernation is not available.


C:\Windows\System32>

FrankW · Sep 17, 2023

Try3 said:
Does it think it has networking in S0 Modern standby?
It is reported in the response to the command
PowerCfg -a
After Standby (S0 Low power idle) it will say either Network connected or Network disconnected.
How to Check if Connected or Disconnected Modern Standby [PowerCfg -a] - TenForumsTutorials
[It's the same procedure in both Win10 & WIn11.]

Denis

Hi Try3,
Can I jump in? I got two concerns about my Modern Standby (System 2, see attached): During backups the laptop goes to S0 after a few minutes and I believe that increases my backup time, the second issue is the many Event log warnings 6062: Netwtw10, Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211 driver etc., that I am getting when I disconnect the charger, or the laptop goes to S0. I posted this on the ASUS community (attached) but don't expect a quick resolution. I did not try to roll back S0 to legacy S3 with the registry tweak or the 4 scripts by Shawn as I want to see what the setting in Advanced "Sleep on WLAN" enabled will do (attached. Any comments appreciated.
Frank

Try3 · Sep 17, 2023

Frank,

You have the same bad habit as me.
It's S0 Modern standby not just S0.
S0 means On.

FrankW said:
During backups the laptop goes to S0 after a few minutes

It enters S0 Modern standby when your display turns off.
If the backup task has already started then it should continue.
I've never considered timings but S0 Modern standby will try to force hardware into lower power consumption states so that might slow them down. But I would have thought devices that were busy would refuse to slow down until they had finished what they were doing.

FrankW said:
the many Event log warnings

I never regard Events as worth investigating in their own right.
Events can help an investigation that has been initiated because there is a fault symptom.

FrankW said:
I want to see what the setting in Advanced "Sleep on WLAN" enabled will do

Sorry, I know nothing about that subject.

Best of luck,
Denis

FrankW · Sep 17, 2023

Try3 said:
Frank,

You have the same bad habit as me.
It's S0 Modern standby not just S0.
S0 means On.

It enters S0 Modern standby when your display turns off.
If the backup task has already started then it should continue.
I've never considered timings but S0 Modern standby will try to force hardware into lower power consumption states so that might slow them down. But I would have thought devices that were busy would refuse to slow down until they had finished what they were doing.

I never regard Events as worth investigating in their own right.
Events can help an investigation that has been initiated because there is a fault symptom.

Sorry, I know nothing about that subject.

Best of luck,
Denis

Denis
The Sleep on WLAN did nothing, so I changed it back to default (disabled), then I looked at the reg script by Shawn but did not try that as I have no Power key under Policy in my registry, maybe because I have W11 Home. I then ran the disable commands both for battery and plugged in. No warnings yet after Sleep and Wake, so looking good. My backups are always successful during Modern Standby, just take long (1 hour+ for 200 GB data). Same with last Tuesday's Windows update that took 1 hour to install.
Thanks
Frank

Try3 · Sep 17, 2023

FrankW said:
I have no Power key under Policy in my registry

That's normal.
My Windows 11 computer came as Network connected and I have not used the Registry to change that. [I use PowerCfg commands to switch it between Connected & Disconnected standby.]
The .reg file creates that Registry Key.

FrankW said:
I then ran the disable commands both for battery and plugged in

So they'll be there now.

FrankW said:
My backups ... just take long (1 hour+ for 200 GB data)

I have no idea if that is fast or slow because I never back up that much.
My own files are in separate partitions on all my computers so that I just make 20-30-40GB system images of the Windows drives & simple RoboCopy file backups of my own files.

FrankW said:
Same with last Tuesday's Windows update that took 1 hour to install

I have yet to run that update.

All the best,
Denis

Try3 · Sep 17, 2023

Frank,

I have just done the latest Cumulative update [KB5030219, released on Tuesday 12th September] and it took 14 minutes including the reboot & reading then dismissing their annoying Let's finish setting up your PC dialog.

Denis

hdmi · Sep 17, 2023

FrankW said:
I want to see what the setting in Advanced "Sleep on WLAN" enabled will do

Sleep on WoWLAN Disconnect is the ability to put the device to sleep/drop connection when WoWLAN is disconnected. A wireless adapter with WoWLAN enabled on it can receive magic packets only as long as the wireless adapter remains connected to the Basic Service Set (BSS). So, the "WoWLAN is disconnected" here is referring to that connection.

IronTechmonkey · Mar 31, 2024

This is a nice assemblage of information which has been difficult to find elsewhere and nearly impossible to find in a cohesive format, in particular the part of the video which demonstrates the difference in S0 states reported via powercfg /a when plugged in and when on battery. Thank you.

I have some relatively new (2-3 years) but low-end Windows 10 Dell laptops which do use S0 but can be set to use the network disconnected state when plugged in or on battery by using the advanced power setting "Networking Connectivity In Standby". When that setting is switched between disabled and enabled for battery or plug then then the supported network state for SO changes accordingly between Network Disconnected and Network Connected.

As you mentioned, it is difficult to force the negative condition for testing purposes but it would seem that if Networking Connectivity In Standby is set to disabled for both battery and plug, then the computer should not get crossed up by being disconnected from power while in sleep mode.

Additionally, having been stripped of much Dell OEM bloat and with many of the missing advanced power management options enabled, and otherwise set to minimize unattended wake-ups, these laptops are less likely to experience the sudden drain which prefaces this thread but its nice to have that extra hedge.

Thanks again,
Happily, until this is further depreciated,
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected Hibernate, for battery and plug.

Try3 · Mar 31, 2024

IronTechmonkey said:
the difference in S0 states reported via powercfg /a when plugged in and when on battery.

I'm concerned by that comment.
PowerCfg /a does not depend on AC or DC power and it makes no mention of it.
It tells you which power-sleep states are available in your computer.

"S0"
You have already developed a bad habit that I also have a lot of the time.
It is not "S0".
It is
- S0 Modern standby, or
- S0ix, or
- S0 lower power idle.
"S0" on its own means something else [that the computer is on].

You are correct that "Networking Connectivity In Standby" can be set separately for AC & DC power.

IronTechmonkey said:
As you mentioned, it is difficult to force the negative condition for testing purposes

I don't know who you are addressing.
It's very easy if you have other computers on your network. Just see if the others can access it or not when it is in S0ix.
If you don't have any others then you'd need to set up a Task scheduler task to do something like access a web address. This can be done but is not nearly as straightforward.

IronTechmonkey said:
these laptops are less likely to experience the sudden drain which prefaces this thread

I don't know where you are looking.
Those sudden drains can be experienced if an S0ix computer is on S0ix using Connected standby when Windows decides to run Windows update and, say, a Cumulative update gets downloaded and installed.
Some other Windows-favoured tasks can also run during S0ix Connected standby such as the email app [and perhaps the new Outlook for Windows] but MS have not said which ones it condescends to let run. EMail is not going to drain much power, in general.

I used to resent S0ix but I learnt to tame it:-
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum
I no longer have any concerns about S0ix.
Now all I resent is having it forced upon us without any explanation and without much choice in the matter.

All the best,
Denis

IronTechmonkey · Mar 31, 2024

Try3 said:
I'm concerned by that comment.
PowerCfg /a does not depend on AC or DC power and it makes no mention of it.

You might be overthinking what I said, or I might have been convoluted in saying it (more likely) but that is directly from the video here: until 9:05 of the video,

Where the differences in sleep states that are available when either on battery or plugged in are reported by powercfg /a. E.G (from video):

When on battery powercfg /a reports:

The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected
Hibernate

and

When plugged in powercfg /a reports:

The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Connected
Hibernate

Try3 said:
It tells you which power-sleep states are available in your computer.

Yes, that is what is meant by "... reported via powercfg /a when plugged in and when on battery."

Try3 said:
"S0"
You have already developed a bad habit that I also have a lot of the time.
It is not "S0".
It is
- S0 Modern standby, or
- S0ix, or
- S0 lower power idle.
"S0" on its own means something else [that the computer is on].

LOL, I had seen that same "bad habit" comment elsewhere in the thread (after I had posted, while reviewing posts which I had missed when previously reviewing the thread). Point taken regarding terminology and the importance thereof, but my reporting details from the command prompt stand and results of testing stand. As to "bad habit(s)", let's agree not to call a one-time instance of errant terminology (which is not critical in this case to the outcome) a "bad habit". Habit = “An established custom, or an automatic pattern of behavior”. After all you would not want to fall into a bad habit of referring to things that are not habitual as habits.

Try3 said:
You are correct that "Networking Connectivity In Standby" can be set separately for AC & DC power.

That is the crux of the matter on my computers and the notably helpful detail I picked up from the video. With that set to disabled for both battery and plug then it seems the computer would be less likely to get caught in the situation described in the video, I.E the hypothesis mentioned here:

Try3 said:
I don't know who you are addressing.
It's very easy if you have other computers on your network. Just see if the others can access it or not when it is in S0ix.
If you don't have any others then you'd need to set up a Task scheduler task to do something like access a web address. This can be done but is not nearly as straightforward.

That was not a reference to verifying the efficacy (or not) of various settings and machine states but rather a reference to the difficulties of proving the aforementioned hypothesis, difficulties which are mentioned in the video here:

Try3 said:
I don't know where you are looking.
Those sudden drains can be experienced if an S0ix computer is on S0ix using Connected standby when Windows decides to run Windows update and, say, a Cumulative update gets downloaded and installed.
Some other Windows-favoured tasks can also run during S0ix Connected standby such as the email app [and perhaps the new Outlook for Windows] but MS have not said which ones it condescends to let run. EMail is not going to drain much power, in general.

Looking at my computers. To paraphrase previous post, my usage patterns and the configurations of the computers both significantly minimize the likelihood of unattended wake ups, so it unlikely that I will need the what I’ve learned here about “Networking Connectivity In Standby" (to disable for both battery and plug) but its nice to have the extra measure in place.

Try3 said:
I used to resent S0ix but I learnt to tame it:-
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum
I no longer have any concerns about S0ix.

I never got to the point of resenting it but might have done so were I still building workstations as I did before this new generation of power management. Having only recently gotten down and dirty into this stuff for the first time on relatively new laptops I might have incidentally bypassed the resentment stage (whew! :)) and can see the benefits. I don't have concerns about S0ix other than the fact that OEM bloat often (but not always) obfuscates native windows settings but don’t do a better job. For instance, it wasn't until I removed Dell bloat and enabled missing power management settings that I even knew of "Networking Connectivity In Standby" and "The following sleep states are available on this system: Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected Hibernate". I had been searching for more information about those things for several days before finding the nicely consolidated information in this thread and in the video.

Try3 said:
Now all I resent is having it forced upon us without any explanation and without much choice in the matter.

True that, and +1. Thanks again fo the helpful information.

[EDIT] Apologies for the big video thumbnails. Typically I would post only the links but don't yet know how that is managed at this forum or if it is possible.

Try3 · Mar 31, 2024

Please post your
PowerCfg -a
results.

Denis

IronTechmonkey · Mar 31, 2024

Try3 said:
Please post your
PowerCfg -a
results.

Denis

Sure. What are you looking for?

The following sleep states are available on this system:
Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Disconnected
Hibernate

The following sleep states are not available on this system:
Standby (S1)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S2)
The system firmware does not support this standby state.
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Standby (S3)
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

Hybrid Sleep
Standby (S3) is not available.

Fast Startup
This action is disabled in the current system policy.

Standby (S0 Low Power Idle) Network Connected
Connectivity in standby is disabled by policy.

Try3 · Mar 31, 2024

IronTechmonkey said:
I might have been convoluted in saying it

Try3 said:
You are correct that "Networking Connectivity In Standby" can be set separately for AC & DC power.

So that was what you meant.
Fine. No concerns about that then.

Denis

Try3 · Mar 31, 2024

Sorry, I thought I had deleted the request for your PowerCfg -a results when I realised what you were referring to & started my next post.

But, since you have posted them anyway, do note that very few people have the line

IronTechmonkey said:
Standby (S3)
This standby state is disabled when S0 low power idle is supported.

This implies that you might successfully change the computer into an S3 Sleep computer.
If you ever consider doing that, check your user manual, computer maker's support site & their user forum for guidance. It is likely to be a setting in your Bios.
There is a tutorial on disabling S0ix but that result of yours implies that there is a better way.
- On one S0ix computer of mine, disabling S0ix merely failed to enable S3 Sleep but the computer worked alright.
- Several people reported complete success in the disabling tutorial, S0ix was disabled & S3 Sleep was enabled.
- On another S0ix computer of mine, disabling S0ix caused the computer to freeze and even using its power button could not turn it off until I had removed then reconnected its AC power lead.
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

Denis

IronTechmonkey · Apr 8, 2024

Try3 said:
This implies that you might successfully change the computer into an S3 Sleep computer.
If you ever consider doing that, check your user manual, computer maker's support site & their user forum for guidance. It is likely to be a setting in your Bios.
There is a tutorial on disabling S0ix but that result of yours implies that there is a better way.
- On one S0ix computer of mine, disabling S0ix merely failed to enable S3 Sleep but the computer worked alright.
- Several people reported complete success in the disabling tutorial, S0ix was disabled & S3 Sleep was enabled.
- On another S0ix computer of mine, disabling S0ix caused the computer to freeze and even using its power button could not turn it off until I had removed then reconnected its AC power lead.
Disable Modern Standby in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials

Denis

Thanks for that information. My current laptops have a BIOS setting related to processor C state but apparently nothing for sleep states or modern standby. In the past I've tried to find the motherboard books but to no avail, and Dell has done more to obscure than reveal relevant information, but I may try again. That being said, presently my laptops don't seem to need any extra measures in this regard. Somewhat to your point of having accepted modern standby, I'll see what I can get out of it for now, but it's nice to have documentation describing disabling modern standby should I need to do that. I've explored the referenced material & registry key, and I would be comfortable doing that if the need arises. Thanks again.

Try3 · Apr 8, 2024

IronTechmonkey said:
Dell has done more to obscure than reveal relevant information

Yes and there are several posts by Dell staff in the Dell user forums that say that no Dells can disable S0ix because their Bioses will not allow it.
All rather confusing.

IronTechmonkey said:
Somewhat to your point of having accepted modern standby, I'll see what I can get out of it for now

Try3 said:
I used to resent S0ix but I learnt to tame it:-
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum

Now that I've set their Power options Sleep after to Never, I treat my S0ix computers in the same way as I treat my S3 Sleep computers.

Denis

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