Solved Enlightening comparison between NVMe and SATA SSD


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My OS and programs are on the disk that's imaged here. In the first report, Macrium is reading from NVMe and writing to SATA. In the second shot, Macrium is reading from SATA and writing to SATA. The evidence is that the speed of the slowest element determines the overall speed (like what happens when you mix slow and fast memory on the same machine), but note the difference between times taken between shot 1 and shot 2. Insignificant, because the write-to drive is the SATA on both, whereas the read-from disk is NVMe in shot 1, and SATA SSD in shot 2.

Shot 1:
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Shot 2:
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Interesting, eh?
 
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    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
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    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
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    Lenovo 3132
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    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
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My OS and programs are on the disk that's imaged here. In the first report, Macrium is reading from NVMe and writing to SATA. In the second shot, Macrium is reading from SATA and writing to SATA. The evidence is that the speed of the slowest element determines the overall speed (like what happens when you mix slow and fast memory on the same machine), but note the difference between times taken between shot 1 and shot 2. Insignificant, because the write-to drive is the SATA on both, whereas the read-from disk is NVMe in shot 1, and SATA SSD in shot 2.

Shot 1:
View attachment 55685
Shot 2:
View attachment 55686
Interesting, eh?
This is exactly as I would expect - the read/write figures are a bit meaningless as they are peak rates not an average rate.

So long as pc can read faster than it writes, the time is limited by the writing device. Think about it - if it reads data faster with nvme, all that happens is data gets held up in a queue until it is processed.

Also bear in mind there is a "compression" overhead that limits the write speeds as well.

What is interesting is if you repeat the test with no compression.
I was really gobsmacked by that on my laptop (nvme to nvme)!
 

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    I7
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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I got an eye opener with my new system. The old system was a W10, i5 3 Ghz 4 core with 6 Gb of RAM and a 1 TB HDD for the system drive. A Macrium Reflect full system image would run for 3 hours to a 2.5" USB SATA HDD connected to the old USB 2.0 type A port.
New system is W11, i7 2.1-4.9 Ghz 12 core with 16 Gb of RAM and 1 TB SSD system drive. A MR full system image runs in 23 minutes to the same USB HDD drive connected to a 3.1 type A USB port.
I figured it would be faster, just didn't expect that sort of faster.
Can't wait to see how long Norton's full system scan takes. On the old system, it took 12 1/2 hours to complete.
 

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    HP ENVY/TE01-3254
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    The Mother Of All Boards
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    Macrium Reflect v.8.0.7279
I got an eye opener with my new system. The old system was a W10, i5 3 Ghz 4 core with 6 Gb of RAM and a 1 TB HDD for the system drive. A Macrium Reflect full system image would run for 3 hours to a 2.5" USB SATA HDD connected to the old USB 2.0 type A port.
New system is W11, i7 2.1-4.9 Ghz 12 core with 16 Gb of RAM and 1 TB SSD system drive. A MR full system image runs in 23 minutes to the same USB HDD drive connected to a 3.1 type A USB port.
I figured it would be faster, just didn't expect that sort of faster.
Can't wait to see how long Norton's full system scan takes. On the old system, it took 12 1/2 hours to complete.
The single biggest improvement here is usb 2 versus usb 3.1.

Usb 2 is limited to max 60 MB/s, USB 3.1 will do a maximum of 1,250 MB/s.

In practice, you get about half those speeds at best. With a weaker CPU and limited RAM, you proably struggle to get more that 20MB/s. A usb 3.1 port will be around 20 x faster. At this point, you become limited by the write speed of hdd (probably around 100-120 MB/s).

Coupled with extra RAM, CPU power, a difference of approx 8:1 ratio is quite believable, although the numbers do indicate original pc was running slower than you might expect.
 

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    TPM 2.0
So long as pc can read faster than it writes, the time is limited by the writing device.
Yeah, so I'm putting in an NVMe as writing device. We'll see. I'm not sure it will reduce the total time used by MR for this imaging task.
 

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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.863
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    PC/Desktop
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
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    Lenovo SFF
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
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    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
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    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
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    LogiTech M510 wireless
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    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
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cereberus: Yes, I do believe the old system had an issue. Task Manager would show the C drive go 100% active but with no read/write/access figures for a long time. None of the usual diagnostics showed anything wrong with the drive and reloading the OS had no effect on the intermittent performance issue. After "flogging the dead 14 year old horse" with no effect for two weeks, I replaced it with a current one. Thanks for your analysis. Apologies for the bold text, can't get the iPad text editor to change it.​

 

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    The Mother Of All Boards
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    16GB, DDR4, 3200 mhz
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    4 USB 2.0 Type A Ports, 2 USB 3.0 Type A Ports, 2 USB 3.1 Type A Ports, 1 USB 3.0 Type C Port, 2 M.2 Slots
    Macrium Reflect v.8.0.7279
Yeah, so I'm putting in an NVMe as writing device. We'll see. I'm not sure it will reduce the total time used by MR for this imaging task.
Pretty sure it will ๐Ÿ™‚.
 

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    ASUS Vivobook 14
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
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    N/A
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    1920x1080
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    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
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    Yep, got one
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois
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    Built in
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    Bluetooth , wired
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    72 Mb/s :-(
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    Edge mostly
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    Defender
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Apologies for the bold text, can't get the iPad text editor to change it.
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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    0T6M8G
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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
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    Macrium Reflect v.8.0.7279
It depends on many things, including the size of the files being copied. One large file nvme>nvmne should be much quicker than sata ssd >sata ssd. With many small files, the picture might not be as dramatic.

people often look at the top two rows of diskmark, in practice for most purposes, the bottom rows are more relevant.

I had a look at an nvme attached by pcie x1 adapter. In general use the difference between attaching via x4 adapter and x1 adapter wasn't obvious.

That linus youtube channel did an experiment where a few of his tech minded buddies blind tested pcs with different types of ssd. They all got it wrong, they couldn't tell which was which in general use.
 
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    2x8gb 3200mhz
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    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
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    cryorig m9i
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That was a beneficial piece of information for me. Thanks!
 

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people often look at the top two rows of diskmark, in practice for most purposes, the bottom rows are more relevant.
I don't understand that claim. What makes them more relevant than the top two rows?
I had a look at an nvme attached by pcie x1 adapter. In general use the difference between attaching via x4 adapter and x1 adapter wasn't obvious.
Mine's attached to an x16 (x4 negotiable), and its speeds are right up to the claims of Samsung for it. The "write-to" (target) NVMe I'm going to install will be a standard installation on the mobo. Just waiting for a chunk of Lenovo plastic that will make the mounting easier.
 

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    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.712 (RP)
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
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    Lenovo Think Centre SFF
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because mostly one is reading and writing small files. Windows writes small files constantly. The big figures in the top rows might be relevant when copying massive files, but most people do that rarely.

That linus youtube channel did an experiment where a few of his tech minded buddies blind tested pcs with different types of ssd, iirc it was a pcie3 nvme, a pcie4 nvme and a sata ssd. They all got it wrong, they couldn't tell which was which in general use. They probably would have been able to tell if they had attempted very large file copies. They even booted into windows on each of the pcs and still guessed it wrong.

It is a while since I saw that video and I cant remember the precise details, but I wasn't surprised.

Those fast test bench speeds in reviews are important for professional video editors perhaps, but not all that relevant for the average punter
 
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    gigabyte b365m ds3h
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    2x8gb 3200mhz
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    benq gw2480
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    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    win7
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
@SIW2

Thanks for the instruction. I hadn't thought about it that way, but I believe you're absolutely right.

And you said, "It is a while since I saw that video and I cant remember the precise details, but I wasn't surprised."

C'mon, now. NOTHING surprises you any more. :oops::cautious:
 

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    11 Pro 24H2 26100.863
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    PC/Desktop
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    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GBDDR4 @ 2666MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG E2442
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB NVMe SSD, 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    250GB NVMe SSD (OS and programs), 1 x WD_BLACK SN770
    500GB NVMe SSD (Data)
    Case
    Lenovo SFF
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream TKL JK-8600US-2 Wired
    Mouse
    LogiTech M510 wireless
    Internet Speed
    Fast (for fixed wireless!)
    Browser
    Chrome, sometimes Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium & Defender (working together beautifully!)
  • Operating System
    11 Pro 24H2 26100.712 (RP)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkCentre M920S SFF
    CPU
    i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo 3132
    Memory
    32GB DDR4 @ 2600MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 Graphics onboard
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG FULL HD (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe; 1 x Samsung 980 NVMe SSD
    Case
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