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I’ve just bought a used 14” HP laptop. Thinking about upgrading the ssd drive (if it actually comes apart). But I don’t exactly understand Intel optane, where it is, how it works with the current ssd drive or whether the bios or hardware settings are optimised for it.

The specs say: 8GB DDR4 ram, 512GB SSD, 32GB Intel Optane.

So is the Optane built into the ssd, separate or what?

Assume a straight swap of ssd for say a Samsung one, would mean having to deactivate something to do with the Optane.
 

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Yeah the Optane is built onto the SSD (NVME). It will be a straight swap for a Samsung but you will need to download the IRST drivers from Intel and stick them on the root of either a separate flash drive or the media you are going to boot from. These need to be loaded before the OS otherwise set up will not see the new drive.

 

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Thanks. Could you explain a bit more please? So I need to install some Intel drivers? It is running windows 10 at the moment and wasn’t planning to reinstall - although could do a clean install.
 

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Thanks. Could you explain a bit more please? So I need to install some Intel drivers? It is running windows 10 at the moment and wasn’t planning to reinstall - although could do a clean install.
Hi, Ethel. I took a look at the link @CornishRattler provided and didn't understand much of it on first look. I think I need to print it out and go from there.
 

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I’ve just bought a used 14” HP laptop. Thinking about upgrading the ssd drive (if it actually comes apart). But I don’t exactly understand Intel optane, where it is, how it works with the current ssd drive or whether the bios or hardware settings are optimised for it.

The specs say: 8GB DDR4 ram, 512GB SSD, 32GB Intel Optane.

So is the Optane built into the ssd, separate or what?

Assume a straight swap of ssd for say a Samsung one, would mean having to deactivate something to do with the Optane.
This may help you to understand the laptop a little better. Intel Optane Memory H20 M.2 NVMe SSD Review: Running Optane and Flash in Harmony
 

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Hi, Ethel. I took a look at the link @CornishRattler provided and didn't understand much of it on first look. I think I need to print it out and go from there.
The link only explains what Optane is supposed to do, it's really not needed for what @Hazel123 is thinking of doing, but it was asked so I obliged.
 

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I think Optane is separate from the SSD, it´s used as a cache, and it is not needed in this case. Besides, it can cause problems, it´s better to disable it.
 

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Thanks. Could you explain a bit more please? So I need to install some Intel drivers? It is running windows 10 at the moment and wasn’t planning to reinstall - although could do a clean install.
If you replace the Optane memory card with a NVMe card you shouldn't need any special drivers.
 

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I think Optane is separate from the SSD, it´s used as a cache, and it is not needed in this case. Besides, it can cause problems, it´s better to disable it.
Check the link I posted in #5. It explains about Optane memory and laptops.
 

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The Optane memory is used as a buffer for mechanical or slower SSD drives, I have used them but only on Mechanical drives to improve larger file write speeds - The ones I have used are in NVME packages and just need the Intel drivers activated after the system has been booted, they will then load on each boot - am not sure if this method will work with a System / Boot drive
 

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The link only explains what Optane is supposed to do, it's really not needed for what @Hazel123 is thinking of doing, but it was asked so I obliged.
Optane merely speeds up the system acting a a cache, kinda of like the windows swap file.
works well with a spinner Hard Drive but very little performance boost with a ssd. I replaced mine with a nvme drive 500 gig and put my system on it . I replaced the hard drive with an ssd.
still fast but instant on wasn't something I really needed.
This one of those try for yourself and decide what you need questions.
 

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Thanks all. I opened the Intel Optane Memory and Storage management program installed and it shows this. Looks to me like it has a separate connection and the ssd has a separate connection. But also that there is an empty port? Not sure about that as it says empty port 0 (so is that the name of the port - 0 - or is it saying there is no empty port?!
 

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Optane merely speeds up the system acting a a cache, kinda of like the windows swap file.
works well with a spinner Hard Drive but very little performance boost with a ssd. I replaced mine with a nvme drive 500 gig and put my system on it . I replaced the hard drive with an ssd.
still fast but instant on wasn't something I really needed.
This one of those try for yourself and decide what you need questions.
Thanks. It appears to just have the one nvme ssd, a port for the octane and possibly another port for another nvme. Which is possible - it was a business model. Although looks identical to the consumer model.

One thing I have noticed is - downloads are very fast - but there is a delayed “ping” - eg windows sound when say installing something yes or no. The ping is a few seconds late! Never had that before.
 

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This video is also very informative.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
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    ESET Internet Security

barman58

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I have had motherboards with facility for using Optane Memory, mine were Full ATX and had two standard size NVMe Slots for drives plus another smaller slot for the Optaine Module (I think it was a 2242 rather than the standard 2260 or 2280)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Chillblast to my design
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 4.9GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro Motherboard
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti - HDMI, DP
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Chillblast Silent Workstation PC Case - Black
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler, Quiet Case fans Fan
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3 + M570 Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet [x2]
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Samsung Note S20
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18.5 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
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    BitDefender Total Security 2021

Winuser

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I have had motherboards with facility for using Optane Memory, mine were Full ATX and had two standard size NVMe Slots for drives plus another smaller slot for the Optaine Module (I think it was a 2242 rather than the standard 2260 or 2280)
I've only had one computer that came with Optane memory. I never used it. The first thing I did was take out the HDD and replace it with the SSD from my old desktop. I didn't bother installing the Intel Optane driver. Later I replaced the Optane memory with a 500GB NVMe drive and made it the system drive. The old SSD is now a data drive in my new desktop.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security

Hazel123

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Forgot to add the photo
So does it look like I have a spare NVME slot from that photo please? If so I could just add another 500gb ssd instead of replacing the current one with a 1tb
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Eee PC 1015PX 10" netbook
    CPU
    Intel Atom N570
    Memory
    2gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 860 250gb ssd
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
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