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jackmcgann

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I've seemingly got it to work, when called from the good ol' "CONTROL PANEL" but I cannot confirm whether it's going to be a "W11" thing.
 

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mngerhold

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I would say 'I hope it is', because I think its good, but as I am never (never ?) going to be on W11 (no TPM on a 3-year-old home-brew) I probably shouldn't care.
 

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I would say 'I hope it is', because I think its good, but as I am never (never ?) going to be on W11 (no TPM on a 3-year-old home-brew) I probably shouldn't care.
According to this, your mobo does have TPM support.
 

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mngerhold

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Thanks - but after I wrote my comment, I did check Gigabyte's spec page, and saw that the socket was there, but didn't update my comment. I should have written that I won't be spending the sort of money being requested at present (£80 ?) on a chip I neither need nor want. I wondered what the chips cost before the W11 requirements became common knowledge, and found one advert that showed it used to be ~£12 when available. As I don't intend to encrypt my drives, I can see no value in the TPM, so will be sticking with W10 (if MS sticks to its current plan).

If anyone cares to point me at something which explains why I should get a TPM chip, I would be grateful. Most of what I have seen reads like advertising hogwash.
 

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    16 GB Kingston HyperX DDR4
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scrapheap

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Funny but not, from 12 to 80, in marketprices. I have been following that stuff. It should work with or without tpm to install w11 as for now
 

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mngerhold

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I engaged in the W10 Technical Preview, and found the whole thing rather dispiriting - they gradually spoiled the system, and seemed to ignore suggestions and complaints. I stuck with it (it was free, after all), but told myself I'd never waste that much time updating every few days for no return - so I will wait until the pukka W11 release and evaluate how much I want it then. Maybe they will stop 'improving' W10 once they are busy spoiling W11 for a new era of users, and I will stick with that. Mind you, I risk missing out on a lot of exiting new icons!
 

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Fabler2

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Thanks - but after I wrote my comment, I did check Gigabyte's spec page, and saw that the socket was there, but didn't update my comment. I should have written that I won't be spending the sort of money being requested at present (£80 ?) on a chip I neither need nor want. I wondered what the chips cost before the W11 requirements became common knowledge, and found one advert that showed it used to be ~£12 when available. As I don't intend to encrypt my drives, I can see no value in the TPM, so will be sticking with W10 (if MS sticks to its current plan).

If anyone cares to point me at something which explains why I should get a TPM chip, I would be grateful. Most of what I have seen reads like advertising hogwash.

Have a look at this discussion. Seems you might be able to enable fTPM?

Question - TPM 2.0 on Gigabyte a320m-s2h



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After a quick look at the spec, I'd think it had built-in fTPM.
 

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swarfega

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Thanks - but after I wrote my comment, I did check Gigabyte's spec page, and saw that the socket was there, but didn't update my comment. I should have written that I won't be spending the sort of money being requested at present (£80 ?) on a chip I neither need nor want. I wondered what the chips cost before the W11 requirements became common knowledge, and found one advert that showed it used to be ~£12 when available. As I don't intend to encrypt my drives, I can see no value in the TPM, so will be sticking with W10 (if MS sticks to its current plan).

If anyone cares to point me at something which explains why I should get a TPM chip, I would be grateful. Most of what I have seen reads like advertising hogwash.
You don't need a TPM chip. All you need to do is enable the TPM firmware in BIOS and that should suffice.
 

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    Asus Strix x570-E
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    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32Gb@3600MHz
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    Asus Strix 3080 Ti OC
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    Samsung Odyssey G7 32" Curved Gaming Monitor, IIYAMA XUB2792QSU-W1 27"
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    2560x1440@240Hz, 2560x1440@70Hz
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1 Tb (OS), Samsung 970 Pro 1 Tb (games), Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb (data), Samsung 860 Evo 4 Tb (games), Crucial MX500 1Tb (photos), WD MyCloud Mirror 6Tb NAS.
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    Corsair RM850x
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    Corsair H100i Se Platinum, 8 Corsair QL120/140 fans
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    Creative T6300 5.1 Speakers. TPM 2.0 Module.
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    Ryzen 5600x
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    Asus Strix B550-E
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    Corsair Vengeance 32Gb@3200MHz
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    Gigabyte RTX2070 Super Gaming OC
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    3840x1200 @ 120Mhz
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It's just a matter of figuring out how to do so. Different OEMs have implemented different prerequisites in order to have it enabled and working on your motherboard.

You'll want to check with your motherboard manual directly to see if there is anything you need to do - some users ahve had to enable Secure Boot first, some have had to reset the UEFI settings to default to even see if fTPM is there, and at least one has now reported that you have to enable fTPM and then visit another section called "Trusted Computing" and turn it on there for Windows to see it.

Now - as to why spending money on a module may be worth it:


firmware-based TPM is the least secure. Obviously, you're probably not going to have a need for anything more, but in case you do, a hardware TPM module will be better than the fTPM (E.g. as I've learned on my own particular motherboard, is always turned back off if I apply a UEFI fw update, so I have to remember to go back in and enable it again), whereas a hardware module won't reset even if you flash a newer UEFI fw.
 

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    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
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