Solved Forced online account and question about Win 11 Pro


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I bought a Windows 11 laptop that came with the Windows 11 21H2 Home edition. I was completely annoyed by the forced use of a Microsoft account but I managed to create a local account. However, with every application MS is trying to force me to login, and each time I do so thinking its for that one application, it changes my account to an online account and auto logs me to all other MS services.
I tried removing the account and clicked the option for not to auto login to other MS services but it still happens every time. If I use the widgets, the app store, the whiteboard app, and even mail (if I'm using an outlook email). Irrespective of my wishes MS is forcing their online account down my throat.
I'm so annoyed by it that I have decided to return the laptop and get an older Windows 10 one before they disappear from the market, but before I do I wanted to ask is it different with Windows 11 Pro because I remember reading MS was doing this forced online account thing with the home edition. Will Windows 11 Pro behave the same way if you use any of the applications mentioned above?
Thanks in advance!
 
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with every application MS is trying to force me to login, and each time I do so thinking its for that one application, it changes my account to an online account and auto logs me to all other MS services.
Welcome to Eleven Forum.

Yes, the big friendly default 'Next' button does that. The trick is not to click it. If you want to sign in an app with your Microsoft account and keep your local account then you must click the small print 'Microsoft apps only' link instead.

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
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    i5 M 520
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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...is it different with Windows 11 Pro because I remember reading MS was doing this forced online account thing with the home edition.
No, it's the same in Pro. In fact, recently MS have changed things so that the latest version of Pro now requires you to use a Microsoft account when you first set up the PC out of the box, it used to be just Home that did that. As you found with Home, there are ways to bypass this requirement and set up with a local account instead.

All my W11 machines, Home or Pro, just have local accounts - but do have a few specific apps of my choosing signed in to use my MS Account (widgets, for example).

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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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I'm so annoyed by it that I have decided to return the laptop and get an older Windows 10 one before they disappear from the market,
You don't have to return the laptop. You can download an ISO of Windows 10 Home and do a clean install. I suggest that you give Windows 11 a try first though. Don't forget that support for Windows 10 is slowly coming to an end. If I remember correctly, the end of support is Oct. 2025. If you have any questions or need of assistance, we are more than willing to help. :-)
 

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Welcome to Eleven Forum.

Yes, the big friendly default 'Next' button does that. The trick is not to click it. If you want to sign in an app with your Microsoft account and keep your local account then you must click the small print 'Microsoft apps only' link instead.

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Thank you for the reply!
I did see the option and I fiddled with it before. I guess I was annoyed that the account gets added under my profile and didn't pay attention to the status of my profile. Your post made me try again and re-evaluate it. Now I understand it better. Having it there and then changing the sign-in option to "Apps need to ask me to use this account" reduces some of the annoyance, and will keep my account local.
Widgets don't like it though when I do that and won't sign me in, other apps worked fine. Its a compromise I can live with.
Are you able to get Widgets to work when you choose "Microsoft apps only"?
 

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You don't have to return the laptop. You can download an ISO of Windows 10 Home and do a clean install. I suggest that you give Windows 11 a try first though. Don't forget that support for Windows 10 is slowly coming to an end. If I remember correctly, the end of support is Oct. 2025. If you have any questions or need of assistance, we are more than willing to help. :-)

Thank you for the reply!
I would have really liked it if I could put Window 10 on the same machine. It was the first thing I searched for but my understanding was there are no downgrade rights?
Would Windows 10 activate on the same machine that came with a Windows 11 license? I would be really happy if that option was available.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I would have really liked it if I could put Window 10 on the same machine. It was the first thing I searched for but my understanding was there are no downgrade rights?
Would Windows 10 activate on the same machine that came with a Windows 11 license?
Yes, it would.

Microsoft made no changes at all to the digital license or the keys for Windows 11. All keys or digital licenses are now regarded by Microsoft as being valid for 'Windows 10/11', and will activate either W10 and W11 provided they are the edition your license is for, Home in your case.
 

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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
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    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
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    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
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    Defender
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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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Yes, it would.

Microsoft made no changes at all to the digital license or the keys for Windows 11. All keys or digital licenses are now regarded by Microsoft as being valid for 'Windows 10/11', and will activate either W10 and W11 provided they are the edition your license is for, Home in your case.

I'm going to give this a try!

Thank you for your help!
 

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I'm going to give this a try!
I have a couple of machines that dual boot Windows 10 and Windows 11. One way to add a second Windows OS without disturbing the original one it to use a native boot .vhdx file. That's how both mine are set up.

 

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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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Are you able to get Widgets to work when you choose "Microsoft apps only"?
Yes. In fact it was widgets that was the first app I signed into with my Microsoft account, choosing 'microsoft apps only' when I did so. After that it was offered for use by other apps, if I chose to allow them to sign in.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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I have a couple of machines that dual boot Windows 10 and Windows 11. One way to add a second Windows OS without disturbing the original one it to use a native boot .vhdx file. That's how both mine are set up.

I just looked at the VMs I created in Hyper-V, and they are .vhdx files. I have Linux Mint, Windows 10 and Windows 11. When I'm not so tired I might give it a try. It definitely won't be today or tomorrow. Working outside in all this heat, takes it out of you. :-)
 

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    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Dev
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy x360 15-ds1083cl
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 2.0GHZ
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
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    1920x1080
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    PCIe NVMe M.2 512GB
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
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Yes. In fact it was widgets that was the first app I signed into with my Microsoft account, choosing 'microsoft apps only' when I did so. After that it was offered for use by other apps, if I chose to allow them to sign in.

I don't know why mine is not working. I even rebooted a few times. Everything else is working fine.
Might be something else going on. I'll try to troubleshoot it later.

Thanks again!
 

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I have a couple of machines that dual boot Windows 10 and Windows 11. One way to add a second Windows OS without disturbing the original one it to use a native boot .vhdx file. That's how both mine are set up.

That is very useful. Definitely something I didn't know and I can see it tremendously helpful.
I'll have to experiment with booting from a vhdx file.

Thank you for sharing!
 

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I just looked at the VMs I created in Hyper-V, and they are .vhdx files. I have Linux Mint, Windows 10 and Windows 11. When I'm not so tired I might give it a try.
Yes, it's worth a try. The PC I'm posting this from now is native booting a .vhdx of the Insider Release Preview build 21261. The .vhdx it's booting from stated life as the .vhdx for a Beta build 22598 Hyper-V VM. I copied it to this PC, native booted from it, and got all the Beta feature updates up to 22621. Then I switched it from the Beta channel to the Release Preview channel when 22621 was first released there.
 
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    Windows 11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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I don't know why mine is not working. I even rebooted a few times. Everything else is working fine.
Might be something else going on. I'll try to troubleshoot it later.
I have the sign in options set for 'other apps can sign me in'. Perhaps that's why it works. Then again, maybe it was because when I first used my MS account it was to sign in to widgets, so I'm always signed in for widgets, even after a restart.

You could try troubleshooting by going back to square one and starting over. You could go to Email & accounts, click on your MS account and remove it. Then open widgets and sign in, remembering to choose 'Microsoft apps only' of course :wink:
 

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    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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I know that there are other ways to do this, but I accidentally stumbled on another way to create a local account during setup when doing a clean install without hacking anything.

Start installation as usual by booting from the installation media.
Proceed through setup up to the point where setup asks you if you want to set up for personal use or set up for work or school.

Normally at this point you would select "Set up for personal use". Don't do this. Select "Set up for work or school" instead.

Image1.jpg

On the next screen, click on "Sign-in options".

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Select "Domain join instead". Don't worry - we are not joining a domain!

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Enter the name to use for the local account. That's right - the name you enter here will become a local user account!

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That's all. Proceed with installation as normal.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 15-BL012DX
    CPU
    Intel i7-7500U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Dual Intel HD 620 and Nvidia GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k 15-inch
    Screen Resolution
    4k (3840 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    RAM Upgraded from 16GB to 32GB WiFi Upgraded from WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 SSD upgraded from 512GB NVMe SSD to 1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD

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Follow up: The method I just outlined still requires an Internet connection, which I find annoying. My preferred method of installation to create a local account is to actually use a very simple autounattend.xml file that does nothing more than create a local user account but also makes a network connection unnecessary. Since that is all the answer file does, the rest of installation is still the same as always.
 

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    Windows 11 21H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 15-BL012DX
    CPU
    Intel i7-7500U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Dual Intel HD 620 and Nvidia GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k 15-inch
    Screen Resolution
    4k (3840 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    RAM Upgraded from 16GB to 32GB WiFi Upgraded from WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 SSD upgraded from 512GB NVMe SSD to 1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD

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I know that there are other ways to do this, but I accidentally stumbled on another way to create a local account during setup when doing a clean install without hacking anything.

Start installation as usual by booting from the installation media.
Proceed through setup up to the point where setup asks you if you want to set up for personal use or set up for work or school.

Normally at this point you would select "Set up for personal use". Don't do this. Select "Set up for work or school" instead.

View attachment 35950

On the next screen, click on "Sign-in options".

View attachment 35951

Select "Domain join instead". Don't worry - we are not joining a domain!

View attachment 35952

Enter the name to use for the local account. That's right - the name you enter here will become a local user account!

View attachment 35954

That's all. Proceed with installation as normal.
I did the same process with "Set up for personal use". yesterday.
and work build 22000.832_X64
 

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    Windows 11, Pro for Workstations, 21H2 (22000.652)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7GHz (4.2GHz Turbo)
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B450M Gaming/BR Chipset B450 AMD AM4 mATX DDR4 - BIOS 3604
    Memory
    DDR4 OLOy Owl Black, 8GB, 3200MHZ, (x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Colorful GeForce GTX 1650 Super
    Sound Card
    -
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 22EA53(Digital)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD: 120GB, Sata III, Leitura 560MBs e Gravação 540MBs
    HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, Sata III, 7200RPM, 64MB
    PSU
    Corsair ATX CV550 550W, 80 Plus Bronze, PFC Ativo
    Case
    Wheel Jack, Mid Tower, Vidro Temperado, Black
    Cooling
    default
    Keyboard
    common
    Mouse
    commom
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    600mb
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

hsehestedt

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I did the same process with "Set up for personal use". yesterday.
and work build 22000.832_X64
Unfortunately, that build does not count :-)

That is the original release of Windows 11, which is not in question. The issue is that the behavior during installation has changed for Windows 11 22H2. 22H2 requires both that you have an Internet connection, and disallows the creation of a local account if you select "Set up for personal use".
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A
    Memory
    128GB Crucial Ballistix 3200MHz DRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - CPU graphics only (for now)
    Sound Card
    Realtek (on motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe Gen 4 x 4 SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe Gen 3 x 4 SSD
    2 x 512GB 2.5" SSDs
    2 x 8TB HD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCue 5000X RGB
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black cooler + 10 case fans
    Keyboard
    CODE backlit mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Additional options installed:
    WiFi 6E PCIe adapter
    ASUS ThunderboltEX 4 PCIe adapter
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 21H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Spectre x360 15-BL012DX
    CPU
    Intel i7-7500U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Dual Intel HD 620 and Nvidia GeForce 940MX
    Sound Card
    Built-in Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k 15-inch
    Screen Resolution
    4k (3840 x 2160)
    Hard Drives
    1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD
    Internet Speed
    300Mb down / 20Mb up
    Browser
    Chromium Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    RAM Upgraded from 16GB to 32GB WiFi Upgraded from WiFi 5 to WiFi 6 SSD upgraded from 512GB NVMe SSD to 1TB Seagate FireCuda 510 NVMe SSD

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Just did a factory restore of my Notebook to Win10 Pro followed by all the updates then Upgraded to Win11. Used only a Local Account as Administrator with no password, only issue I see now is can't get Widgets until signing in, doesn't specifically mention Microsoft Account. Appears to be something new since last Oct. as my Desktop from April hasn't changed. It's not critical as most of what Widgets has is on Edge when opened.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    21"
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 2TB WDC HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
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