Google, Microsoft can get your passwords via web browser's spellcheck


Extended spellcheck features in Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge web browsers transmit form data, including personally identifiable information (PII) and in some cases, passwords, to Google and Microsoft respectively.

While this may be a known and intended feature of these web browsers, it does raise concerns about what happens to the data after transmission and how safe the practice might be, particularly when it comes to password fields.

Both Chrome and Edge ship with basic spellcheckers enabled. But, features like Chrome's Enhanced Spellcheck or Microsoft Editor when manually enabled by the user, exhibit this potential privacy risk.


Bill
 
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The Editor mentioned is found in the Settings, Languages options in Edge:
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I just use the basic checker simply because the grammar checker/suggestions is annoying.
 

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I think we have to be aware that there is a risk to any data you trust others to process for you. We all want to use the latest aids to improve or simplify our computing life. We have to be realistic though, as home and small business users we do not have the raw processing power to perform the processing of our own data locally.

this has always been a consideration with small business' you have to trust whoever you use to process your data, you can go to a specialist and pay them for their privacy. or you can use a free service and take the risk. Yes, of course there is a risk, but being realistic apart from the general data used by the online companies we have to ask " how many of my spelling errors really are of any interest to Google or Microsoft" the data can be useful on a broad scope if the same errors are seen often the systems can be adjusted to improve the results.

In the end only the user can decide if the risk / ease of use factor is acceptable to them
 

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I would imagine both Google and Microsoft "know" that their extended spellchecker can grab passwords and other important personal information.
Even if their original intention wasn't to grab such information, I hardly think they'll avoid making use of information like that, after they acquire it.
Too often I think we credit large corporations like Google and MS with a benevolence they don't really possess.

They eat, sleep and breathe in the business world where the first commandment is kill or be killed. :-)
When a company gets as large as Google or MS, the days of slow pitch softball are long gone.
 

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How will they make use of it?

Denis



Sell it.
Both Google and MS are too much in the limelight, to stoop to "using" the information directly.
I mean, they might use it to find which judges or senators are visiting less than cherubic websites, so they have leverage they might need in the future.
But neither company would be foolish enough to say... hack your bank account.
They are playing in a whole different league than 99% of us. :-)
 
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Regardless of these companies benevolence or lack thereof, the wider issue is that if people choose the show characters option on a password field then the password is transmitted to these companies in plain text form.
The large companies may not directly make use of such information beyond usage metrics and monetisation, but unencrytpted passwords being held in a database could be a huge security hole for some.
 

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And it gets wider than that.

If it is digital, it can be hacked. Which means that users need to periodically asses what they do and do not share / allow to be shared from their machines, and not just accept all aspects of what a particular program, platform, or OS "say" is OK to share because they promise they will not use it in a nefarious manner.

The larger issue is that, while the information can be disseminated to the people, too many users simply do not know where to look, or else don't *want* to / **care** to look.
 

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My biggest concern would be a hack that exposes the information. As someone who has 5 separate identity theft accounts due to data breaches, I believe anything is possible. My name, email addresses and cell number are apparently on the dark web for what that's worth. Mind I don't have any important data in my email, but the risk is real

A Guy
 
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Thank you, A Guy, for the article. (y)


Just a heads up... for the longest of time, mine was set to 'Basic'. But apparently somewhere along the line, with an Edge update, if was automatically switched for me, to 'Microsoft Editor'.

I was unaware, until reading the article.

If not already, you guys might consider checking that it hasn't happened to you, as well.


Take care, all.
 

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    Win 11 Pro & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
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    ASUS VivoBook
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
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    RX Vega 10 Graphics
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    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
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    ACER NITRO
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
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    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
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    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
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    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
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    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
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    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
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    180 Watt, 19.5 V
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    Lenovo Bluetooth
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    25 Mbps
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    Edge
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I don't see "Use writing assistance".
It's here,
I do not see any of that block, "Use writing assistance", either.
[Edge v103 - I've just started letting it update in case that's the difference but my Win10 Edge is up to date already v105 & that does not have that block either.]
Edge v103 - No Use writing assistance - Win11.png

Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
I do not see any of that block, "Use writing assistance", either.
[Edge v103 - I've just started letting it update in case that's the difference but my Win10 Edge is up to date already & that does not have that block either.]

Denis
I have Version 105.0.1343.42 (Official build) (64-bit). Windows 11.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X509DA (FP5)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    RX Vega 10 Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe 1.3
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    25 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
My Win10 Edge has just started another update [from 105.0.1343.42] and that use writing assistance block has just this minute appeared. It says it has completed but it is still on the same 105.0.1343.42. Perhaps it has been faulty up until now, I don't know.
My Win11 Edge has also just finished updating to 105.0.1343.42 & the Use writing assistance block is now shown so I've been able to choose basic.


Denis
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447
The Editor mentioned is found in the Settings, Languages options in Edge:
Thanks for that.
Now that I have been able to see that Use writing assistance block, I've been able to set it to Basic.

Denis
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home x64 Version 23H2 Build 22631.3447

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG X570S Edge Max WiFi
    Memory
    Patriot Viper Gaming DDR4 Extreme Performance (2 x32MB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC 12GB GDDR6/ ZOTAC Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6GB GDDR6 192-bit Gaming Graphics Card
    Sound Card
    Proprietary
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic XG2530 25"/Benq XL2411P 24"/ ASUS VA24DQSB) 23.8"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 240Hz/144Hz/60Hz (based on monitor setup above)
    Hard Drives
    SK hynix Gold P31 1TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD
    ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU
    Case
    Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case, Gaming Case with Blue LED for Desktop
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H60i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    ~950Mb/s upload/ ~700Mb/s download
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    MSI B550 Gaming GEN3 Gaming Motherboard
    Memory
    32MB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    I forget, but it's old. I can't see the need to upgrade it.
    Sound Card
    Propietary
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER LED 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung SSD 3.5"
    Case
    Corsair
    Cooling
    Stock
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    ~750Mb/s download / ~750Mb/s upload
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    Edge
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