has Windows 11 got a bad case of Schizophrenia


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Hi there
seems strange to me when W11 (std release not the "Insider pre rel") is offering updates for things like Intel 5 / 6 gen processors etc when these CPU's aren't even meant to be W11 capable (actually they are currently) but surely that's not the point.

I think someone at Ms doesn't have a proper handle on this -- inconsistency is normally a Businesses "worst nightmare" -- I don't mind that it's all still working but this will only make for hideous hardware driver support in future !!! -- Nothing like in creating unnecessary work for a big business.

In the previous release I just used the drivers copied over from W10 - this time the are all offered by W11 WU -- anyway W11 is working properly so far.

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Some older Intel processors are compatible so why would they not get updates?
 

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Odd.. yes. I have no idea what their up to and I don't know if they know what their up to. My concern is that some time in the future MS will cut off support for unsupported hardware and then those users are up shits creek. It's up to them to keep a backup of their 10 system and keep it in a safe place,. How many will do this? Don't know but they should be aware of the situation they might be in.
 

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Some older Intel processors are compatible so why would they not get updates?
Parts in them can't support the new security requirements?? If MS makes use of them in the future that might be an issue for older CPU's. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Didn't realise, I thought it was to with CPU drivers and cores as was explained to me. I wonder why then so many have always been on the compatible list of CPU's
 

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Didn't realise, I thought it was to with CPU drivers and cores as was explained to me. I wonder why then so many have always been on the compatible list of CPU's
That's what I've read.. wish I could find the link again.

It's not about the capability of the CPU.. many older ones can run 11 without any effort. The issue is the interaction with the CPU and TP2 etc. New gen CPU's have been tested to make sure they interact with the security features and if MS starts to use them more the older CPU's will not work with the changes.
 

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I don't believe MS has ever stated that Windows 11 (as it currently stands) can't run on earlier Intel/AMD processors; and the fact that MS has actually acknowledged that it can by confirming a workaround which bypasses the processor restrictions confirms the possibility with, of course, a health warning that the use of such workarounds will not be supported.

As far as I understand the messages, what Microsoft has advised is that the use of unapproved CPUs and/or the absence of other required hardware/firmware support features means that the full range of system security measures that Windows 11 has been designed to work with and/or will evolve to work with will be compromised; which could mean that future security updates; and potentially other software updates, could fail; and that is what the 'new' minimum hardware spec appears to be based primarily on. Of course, even that minimum spec is insufficient to allow some of the current optional Windows 11 features to be enabled.
 

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