Horrific performance boost upgrading RAM from 16 to 24


AlexDeLarge68

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Hello.
A few months ago unfortunately I decided to upgrade to Windows 11 from Windows 10.
Acer Notebook brand new, Intel generation 11th, 16 GB RAM, Samsung 980 Pro as NVME SSD. Almost the best affordable for business use (and even more).
At once performances were halved, or worse. Really horrible sensation while working... pure rubbish, mostly dealing with files, but not only. I mostly work with cloud ERP for accountancy, Office 365, shared files on OneDrive and plenty of browser tabs (Chrome and Firefox). Lots of windows anytime.
Yes, I know about the Windows 11 problem with NVME SSD.
On Task Manager the total RAM occupied during work was about 8 max 10 GB, on 16 total.
Two or 3 days ago I decided to upgrade the RAM... just because. :-) It wasn't very expensive, so I bought a 16GB board and today I substituted the free 8GB RAM board with the new one, bringing total RAM to 24 GB (first 8 GB are soldered on the motherboard), and... boom! Now it seems that the OS has come again to life! Now the responsivity is almost again the one I had with Windows 10... the difference is really HUGE.
The old RAM board is Samsung, the new one is Crucial, but both are DDR4-3200.
Now with some browser tabs, Outlook, a couple a file explorer opened the RAM usage has risen up to 10-11 GB, but it's completely another way to work, guys!
Someone of you is able to explain this strange behaviour? Anyway it seems I had enough room left in total RAM even before the upgrade and... everyone says that Windows 11 should be OK with 16 GB of RAM. I'm really struggling to understand.

Thanks in advance and kind regards
Alex
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 11

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire A515-56G
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-1165G7
    Motherboard
    TGL Iris_TL 1.30
    Memory
    24 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce MX350
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro SSD Nvme
Do you actually need all of the services and backgroun applications that are eating up your memory? With a few minor adjustments in both Windows 10 and 11 (I didn't notice any increase in RAM usage), my machines don't use that much. I have 32GB in the machine I'm typing this on, and with Firefox open (with 10 tabs) and task manager, I'm only using 4GB (none compressed). I noticed similar performance on a 5 - 6-year old laptop I gave my wife. It has only 8GB but with normal usage I rarely saw it even hit 50%. Did you clean all of the Acer and other bloatware off of it? Good to see the added RAM worked though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z-270A
    Memory
    32GB 2666Mhz (Kingston Hyper X Fury)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvidia 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    N/A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung C27F390
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Evo 512GB
@AlexDeLarge68


I'm thinking the most likely explanation is that the "not soldered" 8GB stick was dead/dying.
It's probably just coincidence that it happened when you were moving from Win 10 to Win 11.
And when you added the 16GB stick, you gave the computer enough RAM to work with.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3593 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI MS-7D98
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-13490F
    Motherboard
    MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth Аудио
    Monitor(s) Displays
    INNOCN 15K1F
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
    KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
    Case
    CG560 - DeepCool
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB TKL
    Mouse
    Corsair KATAR PRO XT
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
Ehm... I thought I made myself clear but it seems I mistook. :-)
It happened exactly the contrary:
- 8 GB RAM soldered on motherboard
- 8 GB RAM DDR4-3200 brand Samsung installed from purchasing.
- 16 GB RAM DDR4-3200 brand Crucial installed in place of Samsung 8 GB.
- Perfomances more or less taken off after RAM upgrading.
What you posted would lead to an opposite conclusion.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire A515-56G
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-1165G7
    Motherboard
    TGL Iris_TL 1.30
    Memory
    24 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce MX350
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Screen Resolution
    Full HD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro SSD Nvme
Ehm... I thought I made myself clear but it seems I mistook. :)
It happened exactly the contrary:
- 8 GB RAM soldered on motherboard
- 8 GB RAM DDR4-3200 brand Samsung installed from purchasing.
- 16 GB RAM DDR4-3200 brand Crucial installed in place of Samsung 8 GB.
- Perfomances more or less taken off after RAM upgrading.
What you posted would lead to an opposite conclusion.
You are just confusing "x8" with "8GB" and "x16" with "16GB".
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Now with some browser tabs, Outlook, a couple a file explorer opened the RAM usage has risen up to 10-11 GB,
This is yet another thing that tends to confuse a lot of people. The SysMain (former SuperFetch) service causes the total memory usage to be not in any way representative of how much memory is allocated to other processes running on the system. Unless you actually are using the kind of programs that can benefit from having more physical RAM to work with, the difference in performance either will be minimal to none or may in fact turn out to be a deterioration instead of an improvement. This greatly depends on things like the actual speed and timings of the physical RAM modules in question and on how well the characteristics of the two different modules (or of the module and the bank that is soldered to the motherboard) are matched to each other as well as are matched to other performance related factors inherent of the CPU/chipset and various software optimizations, etc..

Not too long ago I replaced my laptop's stock 2×4GB SK Hynix 3200MHz C22 DDR4 SODIMM Dual Channel Kit with a 2×8GB G.Skill Ripjaws F4 kit of the same speed and timings. Both kits are Single Rank. There is no performance gain that can be noticed, aside from the one that is resulting from the fact I can now store a bigger amount of data on my Romex Primo Ramdisk, as none of my programs are using more RAM. I mean, I know that there exist several many programs that do─it's just that I don't use them.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
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