How long did/do you use your machines after OS EOL


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... and how did/do you keep it safe and secure running it on the Internet jungle?
 

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I do not think there is a simple answer to this question.

The only way you can guarantee any OS to be safe whether EOL or not EOL is to not connect to internet.

If you connect to an OS that is EOL, any weakness that has not been patched will remain unpatched (although MS have been known to patch some major issues after EOL but they are not guaranteed to always do that).

So no matter what anyone says, you cannot guarantee keeping an OS safe after EOL - all you can do is minimise the risk.

Of course, even if an OS is not EOL and a weakness identified, the PC is still at risk until it is patched. However, the risk is lower than an EOL OS provided the weakness is patched in a timely manner (but not until it is patched). One just hopes it gets patched before hackers start exploiting the weakness.

Given that no system is 100% risk free, then users should adopt an active approach e.g. ensuring data is backed up regularly. Taking a passive approach (relying on software alone) can fall apart in worst cases e.g. pc gets ransomed.

In any case, the biggest risks still come from click happy users clicking links without thinking of the consequence.
 

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I agree with @cereberus, EOL or not any device connected to the Internet is at risk. When MS stops updates for Windows 10 that doesn't necessarily mean that security updates will stop at the same time.
 

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I have a Win7 and a WinXP, both quite usable Desktops but the WinXP is not on my Network or Internet. The Win7 is fine as long as an Anti-Virus program can be kept up-to-date.
 

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When MS stops updates for Windows 10 that doesn't necessarily mean that security updates will stop at the same time.
There will be no security updates for the Windows 10 OS after end of support.

Microsoft said:
Once a Microsoft operating system (OS) reaches the end of support, customers will no longer receive security updates.

The Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool and the Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus may well continue to be delivered though, but that's not the same thing as security patches for the OS. Windows 7 still gets the MSRT and definition updates for Microsoft Security Essentials through Windows Update.
 

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October.

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    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround.

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I have never done it.
 

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I like to live on the edge. I've never even came close to using an OS until EOL.....let alone beyond it!
 

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There will be no security updates for the Windows 10 OS after end of support.
How do know for sure that is true? MS could be saying that as a scare tactic to get user to switch to Win 11 earlier than they want too.
 

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I like to live on the edge. I've never even came close to using an OS until EOL.....let alone beyond it!
I'm not sure about what you're saying. I think your saying that even though you like to live on the edge, you won't run a OS till the end of it being supported. I didn't get much sleep last night so my brain is very fatigued.
 

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There will be no security updates for the Windows 10 OS after end of support.


The Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool and the Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus may well continue to be delivered though, but that's not the same thing as security patches for the OS. Windows 7 still gets the MSRT and definition updates for Microsoft Security Essentials through Windows Update.

... although W7 no longer get security patches for the OS.

Are there any AV vendors who specifically claim that they can nonetheless keep W7 protected?

Or do they all make a blanket claim 'we protect everything'
 

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How do know for sure that is true? MS could be saying that as a scare tactic to get user to switch to Win 11 earlier than they want too.
MS have not said any such thing. All they have said is W11 is more secure which is technically correct albeit how much more secure is open to interpretation.

Re. EOL security - people are confusing getting AV updates post EOL with patching of security holes. The former can be avoided with 3rd party packages if MS do not continue them. Security holes will only be patched post EOL if truly critical and then only at MS's discretion. They obviously would have to decide on a case by case basis - it would be insane commercially to patch EOL OS's ad infinitum.

However, think about it - if a truly damaging security leak {potential to be widespread) was identified, and known to be exploited, MS's reputation could be seriously damaged if they took no action.

Reputation loss can kill shareholder value much faster than cost of avoiding issue as BP found out following Macondo oil leak. BP under invested in Macondo and the consequential share losses were collosal (to point where BP was vulnerable to a takeover).
 

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... although W7 no longer get security patches for the OS.

Are there any AV vendors who specifically claim that they can nonetheless keep W7 protected?

Or do they all make a blanket claim 'we protect everything'
My old laptop is triple booting 98SE, XP, and 7. I can tell you for a fact that the free Avast antivirus still supports XP and 7. You can get the version for XP and it will still receive definition updates but not updates to the program itself. The version for 7 has everything.

There are also versions of Firefox and CCleaner for XP but they do not get updates.
 

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    Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB NVMe SSD
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    Cooler Master Hyper T4 air
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    CM Storm Devastator
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    16 GB Samsung DDR5-4800
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    Integrated Radeon 680M and discrete Radeon RX 6800S with 8GB GDDR6
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Never, I've always kept my OS up-to-date. I tend to upgrade hardware every 2-3 years
 

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Never come close to EOL on an OS, pretty much upgraded to the next OS as soon as possible mainly through insider programs or developer channels
 

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NavyLCDR said:
I like to live on the edge. I've never even came close to using an OS until EOL.....let alone beyond it!
I'm not sure about what you're saying. I think your saying that even though you like to live on the edge, you won't run a OS till the end of it being supported. I didn't get much sleep last night so my brain is very fatigued.
I think that's just pointing to when the Earth stops rotating the 'edge' will suddenly appear.
 

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    8GB
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    256GB SSD NVMe
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Whether an end user uses an operating system beyond EOL is dependent upon the factors considered.

For example there may be other factors beyond security such as specific features.

For Windows Microsoft has commented that end users may not receive security updates.

Each computer may perform differently.

For example some end users may have failure to update Microsoft Defender and others may have no problems.

I've got a computer that I had planned to use for a tutorial as it failed to upgrade.
It still continues to receive Microsoft Defender upgrades.

The Windows version is 1809 (OS Build 17763.1577)
The Microsoft Defender version is currently 1.359.59.0

On another computer Windows version is 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1526)
The Microsoft Defender version is currently 1.359.64.0


The Microsoft Defender versions are not identical but are very close for these different Windows version.






Also many end users use computers with up to date Windows 10 or Windows 11 with potentially reduced security as they have secure boot off.
Others may continue using BIOS Legacy and have no secure boot options.
 

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My old laptop is triple booting 98SE, XP, and 7. I can tell you for a fact that the free Avast antivirus still supports XP and 7. You can get the version for XP and it will still receive definition updates but not updates to the program itself. The version for 7 has everything.

There are also versions of Firefox and CCleaner for XP but they do not get updates.

That's reassuring (y) The issue will become imminent in October 2025 for one of my computers, a non-upgradable W10 which will still be quite usable. I will of course revisit the issue at that time, but here is hoping :)
 

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Everyone seems to have old computers lying around. I still have, and use occasionally, a old laptop with Windows 3.1. It has a whopping 40 MB hard drive. I have the network adapter, but only connect it up for short periods, when necessary. It has MS Word, Excel, and Draw. I use it with a separate interface to my radio that can send/receive Morse Code, via a serial port. That program is written in C, compiled with Turbo-C ,and runs in DOS. But the battery is shot, and the charging circuit burned up. So it takes a few minutes to fire it up and never really knows what time it is. When I'm using it, it is never on the internet.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 15-dw0xx
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-8145U CPU @ 2.10GHz 2.30 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    930 GB
    Keyboard
    Built In
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    Chrome

TairikuOkami

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Surprisingly Windows gets more secure after EOL, because hackers loose interest in it and the new malware is not even compatible. For example I was running XP for a year without AV, firewall and using IE6 only and I did not get a single virus, because I simply disabled all vulnerable services and such. Basically all updates fix vulnerabilities in those processes and till they are released MS actually suggests disabling them as the workaround, just like it did with macros in the latest update, I do it since XP by disabling WSH, lol.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (07/19)
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 TOMAHAWK 7C02v1E (07/19)
    Memory
    4x 8GB ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 DDR4 3200MHz CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Radeon RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC (08/19)
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Z (11/16)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" AOC G2460VQ6 (01/19)
    Screen Resolution
    1920×1080@75Hz + FreeSync (DisplayPort)
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro SSD 512GB (07/19)
    PSU
    Seasonic M12II-520 80 Plus Bronze (11/16)
    Case
    Lian Li PC-7NB + 3x Noctua NF-S12A FLX@700rpm (11/16)
    Cooling
    CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S@700rpm
    Keyboard
    HP Wired Desktop 320K Keyboard (04/22)
    Mouse
    HP Wireless Silent 280M Mouse (05/21)
    Internet Speed
    400/40 Mbps via RouterOS (05/21) + TCP Optimizer
    Browser
    Edge with SwissCows (No FB/Google) + Brave for YouTube + LibreWolf for FB
    Antivirus
    None + Binisoft WFC
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170 (09/10)

cereberus

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Surprisingly Windows gets more secure after EOL, because hackers loose interest in it and the new malware is not even compatible. For example I was running XP for a year without AV, firewall and using IE6 only and I did not get a single virus, because I simply disabled all vulnerable services and such. Basically all updates fix vulnerabilities in those processes and till they are released MS actually suggests disabling them as the workaround, just like it did with macros in the latest update, I do it since XP by disabling WSH, lol.

Do you have proper evidence to support this?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

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