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Early last year I asked myself the same question for Windows 10 version 2004, the most recent major Feature Update for Windows 10. The PC I tested this on was not a top end machine, rather a modest spec processor with an HDD. Perhaps representative of an average consumer machine any ordinary user may be running Windows 10 on.

The conclusion was that allowing Windows Update to perform the upgrade was perhaps the slowest possible way to get the upgrade. The whole process took over four hours, while an in-place upgrade of the same machine using an ISO was known to take less than two hours. Of course, a PC with a high spec processor and an SSD would be faster, but I would expect the 2:1 advantage of an ISO upgrade over a Windows Update upgrade whould remain about the same.


This was consistent with the results from the same machine with the previous major Feature Update, 1903.


So I was interested to see how the upgrade to Windows 11 through accepting the offer in Windows Update would compare. That original test machine was not eligible for the Windows 11 upgrade, so I have transferred its W10 OS, installed apps and user files to a new machine, my System One below. This too has a modest spec and an HDD, so the results should be comparable. It was offered the upgrade on 20th October.

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The first stage after clicking 'Download and install', downloading the upgrade files, is almost entirely dependent on your broadband speed. The 3.8GB downloaded for me in 25 minutes.

The next stage has Windows Update showing an 'Installing' percentage count. That took 3 hours 10 minutes to get to 100%...

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...followed shortly be saying 'pending restart'. Unlike using an ISO, throughout this process the PC was useable for other tasks, so it can perhaps be forgiven for taking so long.

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From this point on we are now on the same process path as an in-place upgrade and the timings should be the same. From clicking 'Restart now' to the Windows 11 desktop took a further two hours and ten minutes.


So the conclusion remains the same. Windows Update is still by far the slowest way to upgrade to Windows 11.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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So the conclusion remains the same. Windows Update is still by far the slowest way to upgrade to Windows 11.
Exactly. I always recommend the ISO method when doing large feature updates or new OS versions.
Also an image backup to external media as well.
 

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I downloaded the (Create Windows 11 Installation Media) tool and used it to create a Flash Drive for W11 installs and repairs. Much easier to have it all on a Flash Drive because you can use that Flash Drive on all computers in your home with the same Operating System. NOTE: I have W7, W10 and now W11 flash drives, all downloaded from Microsoft Downloads. :)(y). W10 and W11 at Microsoft will be around for years to come. Here is the W11 download page and here is the W10 download page.

1. Download time for the tool is seconds with my 1GB down speed.
2. The download and creation of the media on the Flash Drive took about 15 minutes
3. I had to uninstall Start 10 before I could begin the installation/upgrade to W11, that took two minutes with a reboot
4. Plugged the Flash Drive (USB 3.0) in my extension USB cable that sits behind my keyboard (extension USB cables 3.0 to 3.2 are very handy)
5. The upgrade over W10 and all large and small programs along with Store Apps took about 30 minutes

Having given you my scenario you want to keep in mind the specs on my hardware. I built this computer in 2017 and upgraded it twice, so it's finely tuned and has lots of horsepower. A person with a low end performing computer is a whole other story.
These are my userbenchmark.com scores

Wherever your computer falls in-place between low end and high end makes a huge difference in (time spent to upgrade).
 
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  • OS
    W10 Home - Custom Build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/Corsair/nVidia/Noctua/Intel/NZXT
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Z370-e
    Memory
    32GB Corsair 3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (scaled 125%) (144Mhz Refresh Rate)
    PSU
    Corsair 850 Watts Gold Modular
    Cooling
    Noctua D15
    Internet Speed
    900mbps down/45mbps up

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Wherever your computer falls in-place between low end and high end makes a huge difference in (time spent to upgrade).
That is very true, which is why I presented my machine as, perhaps, being more typical of a low end machine a casual Windows user may own. But whatever the performance, it will always be faster to avoid using Windows Update and use a usb or ISO to upgrade.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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So the conclusion remains the same. Windows Update is still by far the slowest way to upgrade to Windows 11.

And usually the most unreliable (prone to failure).
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!

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The opening post did not report whether the in place upgrade was done with or without Windows updates.

Which method did you choose?


Windows 11 updates should be different from Windows 10 updates according to Microsoft.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation

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Maybe I've been lucky (I do keep my hardware up to date) but I've never had any PC take anywhere near 4 hours to upgrade :scream:

That said, I do agree speed is hardware dependent.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 22H2 (Build 22621.900)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, audiophile media center, work.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga X1
    CPU
    Intel i7-7600U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16igg
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 620
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.0 WQHD OLED Touch
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe Drive (OEM)
    PSU
    laptop
    Case
    laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Anywhere 2S
    Keyboard
    Laptop
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security

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The opening post did not report whether the in place upgrade was done with or without Windows updates.

Which method did you choose?
The comparison with an in-place upgrade was made for the W10 upgrade to 1903, as I recall I chose not to check for updates. Checking for updates however should add very little to the time. The majority of the time is spent installing the upgrade.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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These were the reported changes for Windows 11 updates:



 

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  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation

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These were the reported changes for Windows 11 updates....
Yes, but those changes are not new. A '35% reduction' was actually first claimed by Microsoft for W10 updates starting with 1903.

Microsoft said:
We are excited to begin releasing PC builds to Windows Insiders using differential download packages! As we discussed in November, as we roll out UUP in our retail release, users can expect their download size to decrease by approximately 35% when going from one major update of Windows to another. For retail users, the first time they get the UUP client code is part of the Creators Update, therefore, they will see the benefit of differential download packages when they go from the Creators Update to the next feature update of Windows.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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The opening post did not report whether the in place upgrade was done with or without Windows updates....
The comparison with an in-place upgrade was made for the W10 upgrade to 1903, as I recall I chose not to check for updates. Checking for updates however should add very little to the time. The majority of the time is spent installing the upgrade.windows Update
As that was not a fair comparison of like with like I have now tested restoring the same W10 image that was upgraded by Windows Update, then upgrading with the ISO instead. This is now directly comparable as it was upgrading the same system on the same hardware. Note that this is a low spec processor and the system has an HDD. It would be expected to be slow however it was upgraded.

To give the ISO as much of a handicap as possible I let it check for updates as part of the upgrade. The result was that the upgrade completed nearly a hour faster than using Windows Update. Watching the stages carefully, it seems that another 15 minutes could have been saved by not allowing the check for updates. The ISO was on the same HDD as the system being upgraded, it may have been a little faster still if it had been run from a separate external drive, or from usb install media.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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I always mount the iso
Did x99 system yesterday install was around 30 minutes hopped over all new requirements.
 

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    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    asus x3
    CPU
    10900k & 9940x & 5930k
    Motherboard
    z490-Apex & x299-Apex & x99-Sabertooth
    Memory
    Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb & 3200c14 4x8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Titan Xp & 1080ti FTW3 & evga 980ti gaming
    Sound Card
    Onboard Realtek x3
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
    Screen Resolution
    1920-1080 not sure what the t.v is besides 43" class scales from 1920-1080 perfectly
    Hard Drives
    To many to list
    PSU
    1000p2 & 1200p2 & 850p2
    Case
    D450 x2 & 1 Test bench in cherry Entertainment center
    Cooling
    Custom water loops x3 with 2x mora 360mm rads only 980ti gaming air cooled
    Keyboard
    G710+x3
    Mouse
    Redragon x3
    Internet Speed
    xfinity gigabyte
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    mbam pro

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As that was not a fair comparison of like with like I have now tested restoring the same W10 image that was upgraded by Windows Update, then upgrading with the ISO instead. This is now directly comparable as it was upgrading the same system on the same hardware. Note that this is a low spec processor and the system has an HDD. It would be expected to be slow however it was upgraded.

To give the ISO as much of a handicap as possible I let it check for updates as part of the upgrade. The result was that the upgrade completed nearly a hour faster than using Windows Update. Watching the stages carefully, it seems that another 15 minutes could have been saved by not allowing the check for updates. The ISO was on the same HDD as the system being upgraded, it may have been a little faster still if it had been run from a separate external drive, or from usb install media.

Another thing where (apples to apples) is not being covered. SSD vs HDD. In my post about downloading the upgrade onto a Flash Drive for W11, I forgot to mention that my main drive (C Drive) is an M.2 NVME Samsung SSD. These types of SSD's are incredibly fast. My other two internal drives are SATA SSD, also Samsung. One is for System Images and the others are general backups.

Those of you using an HDD can upgrade to a SATA SSD and will see amazing speed increases on your computers. Older motherboards do not have the PCIe capability for (M.2 PCIe) but will certainly benefit from a SATA SSD. We are talking about 4 to 6 times the performance speed of an HDD. Especially nice when installing, uninstalling and most importantly - making a System Image Backup.

If anyone decides to clone their HDD to an SSD there is an excellent Free program called Macrium Reflect 7 Free version on the site below.

And here is a Snip of the correct choice for this task:
 

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    Asus/Corsair/nVidia/Noctua/Intel/NZXT
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Z370-e
    Memory
    32GB Corsair 3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
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    1920 x 1080 (scaled 125%) (144Mhz Refresh Rate)
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I forgot to mention that my main drive (C Drive) is an M.2 NVME Samsung SSD. These types of SSD's are incredibly fast.
Yes. I did a clean install on a supported system which has an M.2 NVMe. From booting the install USB to a Windows 11 desktop took just 10 minutes :wink:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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Yes. I did a clean install on a supported system which has an M.2 NVMe. From booting the install USB to a Windows 11 desktop took just 10 minutes :wink:

That is outstanding! A good post for others to use as a guide. (y) :)
 

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    Asus/Corsair/nVidia/Noctua/Intel/NZXT
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    Intel i7-8700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Z370-e
    Memory
    32GB Corsair 3000Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (scaled 125%) (144Mhz Refresh Rate)
    PSU
    Corsair 850 Watts Gold Modular
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    Noctua D15
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    900mbps down/45mbps up

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Might be a stupid question but I would prefer to upgrade to Windows 11 via an update so that I do not lose any of my installed apps and settings. So is it that slow to do this that way??
 

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    Windows 11 Pro Build 22H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7 -10510U
    Motherboard
    Asus
    Memory
    Samsung 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    On board Intel
    Sound Card
    N/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Genaric
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro NMe
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
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    Asus in built
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    Generic
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    50MB max
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I would prefer to upgrade to Windows 11 via an update so that I do not lose any of my installed apps and settings. So is it that slow to do this that way??
You can upgrade to 11 through Windows Update, or you can mount the ISO made by the MCT and run the Setup.exe you'll find there to start an in-place upgrade. The end result is exactly the same, your Windows 10 will be upgraded to Windows 11 keeping all your files and installed apps. The only difference is that Windows Update will take longer than an in-place upgrade.

See from Step 4 onwards in this tutorial.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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Thanks, Bree I think I will start with the update mode as I am afraid of messing up the one and only machine I have that can be upgraded. Plus forgive my ignorance but what does MCT stand for ??
 

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    Windows 11 Pro Build 22H2
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    Laptop
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    Asus
    CPU
    i7 -10510U
    Motherboard
    Asus
    Memory
    Samsung 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    On board Intel
    Sound Card
    N/a
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Genaric
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro NMe
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    Asus in built
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    Generic
    Mouse
    Logitec Wireless
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    50MB max
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    Edge

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Plus forgive my ignorance but what does MCT stand for ??
Media Creation Tool.

I went with the Installation assistant and it took about an hour.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 22H2 22621.900 | Win 10 Pro 22H2 19045.2311
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-11600KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (4x16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Gaming
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs PCIe Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium (dan_k drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 980 SSD 1TB PCle 4.0 NVMe
    SAMSUNG 970 EVO 1TB PCle 3.0 NVMe (x2)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 2TB SATA III (x2)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 250GB SATA III
    PSU
    CORSAIR HX750
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H60 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3
    Internet Speed
    200Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0
    MR 8 HE
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 22H2 22621.819
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-8700
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime Z370 P-II
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 760
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SMT27A300
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1TB HDD
    PSU
    Corsair CX550M
    Case
    Old Antec, unknown model
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    Hyper 212 EVO
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    Firefox
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    Windows Security

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I am afraid of messing up the one and only machine I have that can be upgraded.
Then use Macrium Reflect Free to make a system image before you try anything. Then if it all gets messed up you can restore the image and be back where you started.


The Installation Assistant that @Scott mentioned is another way to get the upgrade. I haven't tested the speed of that but it's probably closer to using Windows Update.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta as a native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
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