How secure is Windows Bluetooth pairing request?


What do you mean? Windows does not come with any Bluetooth hardware version.
The bluetooth adaptor in the laptop has a hardware version - my mistake.

I assume, that it is normal / common practice that the bluetooth adaptor comes with the newest and most secure hardware version?
 

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A Windows Update could activate a disabled Bluetooth adapter in Device Manager?
Yes, it is possible for a Windows Update to inadvertently re-enable a disabled Bluetooth adapter. Windows Updates often include driver updates and system changes that can reset certain settings, including the status of hardware devices like Bluetooth adapters.

To prevent this from happening, there exists a Group Policy setting that can be used to assure that all Bluetooth adapters on the system remain always disabled. The registry setting that is equivalent to this specific group policy setting can be applied like so:
reg add HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\BTHPORT\Parameters /v DisableBluetooth /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

To change it back to default:
reg add HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\BTHPORT\Parameters /v DisableBluetooth /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

(Also note, both of the above registry changes require to reboot before these changes will take effect.)

EDIT: This registry setting didn't seem to do anything for me.
Have you experienced this?
Yes, but this happened to me so long ago that I can't even remember when.
I find it quite ill-conceived / not a good idea.
Worse, choosing to disable Wake Timers to prevent Windows Update from waking the system (and potentially re-enabling Bluetooth as a result of waking up to install updates) does not offer you any guarantees either. See: Windows 11: Windows Update wakes up the PC from standby, then restarts the PC
It's Mickeysoft. What did you expect? 😏
 
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The bluetooth adaptor in the laptop has a hardware version - my mistake.

I assume, that it is normal / common practice that the bluetooth adaptor comes with the newest and most secure hardware version?
I wouldn't bet my life on it. Bluetooth has a proven track history of being one giant security Loophole with a capital 'L'.
 

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Yes, it is possible for a Windows Update to inadvertently re-enable a disabled Bluetooth adapter. Windows Updates often include driver updates and system changes that can reset certain settings, including the status of hardware devices like Bluetooth adapters.
If Windows re-enable a device in Device Manager without my consent, would Window then deactivate it again after update / use? Or would it stay enabled / activated?
Because I often check Device Manager that everyting is okay.
 

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I wouldn't bet my life on it. Bluetooth has a proven track history of being one giant security Loophole with a capital 'L'.
What if its a new laptop from a big widely recognized company with a good reputation?
 

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What if its a new laptop from a big widely recognized company with a good reputation?
What version they use and what firmware it's on is what matters. Just because its a large company with good reputation (does that even exist?) means absolutely nothing. But bluetooth can be vulnerable on just about anything. I really wouldn't worry too much about this. You are far more likely to get attacked in other ways than bluetooth. New vulnerabilities are found all the time for everything.
 

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If Windows re-enable a device in Device Manager without my consent, would Window then deactivate it again after update / use? Or would it stay enabled / activated?
That's the whole problem, there is no real way to be sure outside of continuous close-monitoring the behavior. It's also one of those reasons why some motherboards/laptops let you permanently disable the internal Bluetooth adapter via a setting in the BIOS. Then again, especially if you use a different kind of Bluetooth adapter for whatever reason, likely this setting will have no effect on it.
Because I often check Device Manager that everyting is okay.
You could always decide to enable PNP Activity auditing. Then set up a task in Task Scheduler that gets triggered by the event and runs a script to notify you each time when the script detects that the device in question matches your Bluetooth adapter.
After doing some testing, modify the script to make it automatically re-disable Bluetooth, and maybe also create a desktop shortcut that runs schtasks.exe with the necessary parameters to enable/disable the task within Task Scheduler.
 

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What are the odds that you are using your laptop in a public place and there is a hacker with 10m of you using a bluetooth vulnerability (if any really exist) to hack you?

A wifi attack is probably at least a hundred times more likely and that is being conservatively low (I admit this is a guess).

If you have a stranger in your house within 10m trying to hack you, I suggest you call the police.
 

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If Windows re-enable a device in Device Manager without my consent, would Window then deactivate it again after update / use?
Or would it stay enabled / activated?

That's the whole problem, there is no real way to be sure outside of continuous close-monitoring the behavior.

Have you ever experienced it?
Or heard about it happening?
 

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Just because its a large company with good reputation (does that even exist?) means absolutely nothing.
Whats your experience with this?
What laptop brands are more inclined to use use the newest and best Bluetooth hardware version etc.?
 

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What's your experience with this?
What laptop brands are more inclined to use use the newest and best Bluetooth hardware version etc.?
There are not any brands that are known for best up to date bluetooth drivers or versions (as far as I know). All I am stating is that just because a company has a good reputation or is well known does not mean that they have good security or the latest patches.

I have already made my case that this is something that would be unusual to happen. Yes, It can happen, but I really don't believe it to be super likely.

This is something of an opinion, so you will need to decide what is right for you. You are looking for a definitive answer when their really isn't one.
 

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If Windows re-enable a device in Device Manager without my consent, would Window then deactivate it again after update / use?
Or would it stay enabled / activated?
AFAIK it all simply depends, and, there is no easy way to be sure.
Have you ever experienced it?
Or heard about it happening?
Yes, I have experienced it a very long time ago. I can't remember specific details.
 

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Not impossible, but highly unlikely to happen?
AFAIK it is still likely enough to happen that I wouldn't bet my life on that it never will happen. Also AFAIK, it isn't a matter of if it will happen, but when it will happen, and, security cannot exist if worst-case scenarios are systematically going to be ignored as a result of what's called wishful thinking, as having a false sense of security often turns out to be one of the biggest possible threats.
Are we many years back in time, or within the last couple of years?
Within the last year or two.
 

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More in regard to:
If Windows re-enable a device in Device Manager without my consent, would Window then deactivate it again after update / use?
Or would it stay enabled / activated?

AFAIK it all simply depends, and, there is no easy way to be sure.
Depends on what?

In what scenarios do you believe this could occur?
When the systems installs a downloaded update?
What else?

Thank you
 

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Just a comment, I use the short-range Bluetooth on most of my Notebooks with mice, either Targus or Microsoft. If I enable Bluetooth on my Samsung phone it will be noticed by Windows and Linux then prompt to pair/connect.
 

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Depends on what?
Your guess is as good as mine. (Knowing Microsoft, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it actually turned out that it part depends on the weather.)
In what scenarios do you believe this could occur?
When the systems installs a downloaded update?
What else?
Yes, and, it can also occur in various other scenarios most of which I presume would be practically impossible to try and identify correctly. Although normally it happens only rarely, Windows can change certain settings by itself as if Windows has gotten a mind of its own, even on systems that can be guaranteed to be perfectly clean with no 3rd party software/apps installed that could possibly explain the behavior.

Windows has always had all sorts of strange bugs hiding behind its wrinkled curtains, but a lot of these bugs don't always show themselves frequently. A lot of them can tend to stay forever invisible, even. In a lot of cases (but certainly not always) it is possible to remediate symptoms by running the well-known dism /cleanup-image /online /restorehealth and sfc /scannow commands. There very often is no easy way to tell what causes the symptoms, or to prevent them before they happen. Some settings can also be reset back to their default as a result of other unknown factors like some kind of design flaw that causes these settings to be "forgotten" after the user had doubly verified that the settings had been correctly applied prior to discovering the inadvertent reset.
 

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Your guess is as good as mine. (Knowing Microsoft, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it actually turned out that it part depends on the weather.)
You believe, that Windows can randomly and without notice:
Device Manager - Bluetooth adapter Disable > Enable
Re-enable Bluetooth adapter in Device Manager

Do you believe it's the same for:
Windows Settings - Bluetooth Off > On
That Windows can turn on Blueooth randomly in Settings
?

Thank you
 

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You believe, that Windows can randomly and without notice:
Device Manager - Bluetooth adapter Disable > Enable
Re-enable Bluetooth adapter in Device Manager

Do you believe it's the same for:
Windows Settings - Bluetooth Off > On
That Windows can turn on Blueooth randomly in Settings
?
Yes, it can happen due to various reasons, such as system updates, driver updates, or changes in system settings.
 

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Yes, it can happen due to various reasons, such as system updates, driver updates, or changes in system settings.

Do you know if any of the below scenarios, are logged in Windows?

Device Manager
Bluetooth adapter Disable > Enable
Or
Bluetooth adapter Enable > Disable

Windows Settings
Bluetooth Off > On
Or
Bluetooth On > Off
 

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