How to force Win11 to sort files the way I want when opening directory?


GeneralLee01

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Hi all,

Win11 sort files in a certain order , no idea what order that is, possibly NAME

When one has set sorting to something else (for instance DATE in my case ) windows still opens a directory with the files sorted in the standard order and then takes 5 to 10 seconds to change the order to DATE.

This happens all the time, so also after one has already set sorting to DATE and has visited the directory multiple times.

I find this waiting annoying.

Is this standard Win11 behavior ? Is there a fix / solution for this issue ?

Thanks
 

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I've just tried sorting my documents folder into date order. After exiting, and then going back in, it still displays in date order. So I don't see your problem.
 

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I just tried it on my desktop, and it's working like it should. My guess is a program or setting is causing the problem.
 

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Please see this Windows tutorial.

Hi Ian. I am not sure I understand your suggestion. I do know how to change sorting and have the folders set to sort to date.

But internally windows sorts differently, so when opening a folder windows first takes up to 10 seconds to sort the folder according to my settings.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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I've just tried sorting my documents folder into date order. After exiting, and then going back in, it still displays in date order. So I don't see your problem.

Mine does that too. But when opening tghe directory windows takes time, up to 10 seconds, to sort the thousands of files. So I suspect internally windows uses a different sort setting and not my sort setting.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
    Hard Drives
    1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 Performance SSD
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    Bluetooth
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    Microsoft Edge
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    McAfee , Malwarebytes , Ccleaner
I just tried it on my desktop, and it's working like it should. My guess is a program or setting is causing the problem.

Hi Winuser. How should it work ?
 

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    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
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    1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 Performance SSD
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Mine is okay, too. Opens instantly by preference.
 

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I did did another check and will try to describe the issue a bit better:

Folder is set to sort on DATE, did that eons ago.

- I open the directory in fileexplorer. After this I do nothing, hands-off
- Thumbnails are visible instantly , sorted by "I am not sure by definitely not DATE"
- Then a green bar is slowly getting longer over what I think is the called directory address bar
- When the bar is at the end the thumbnails are re-ordered and are now sorted on DATE
- End
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
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    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
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    Bluetooth
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Hi Winuser. How should it work ?
What ever sort order I choose is how File Explorer opens. There is no waiting for the files to get sorted.
 

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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
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    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PowerSpec G156
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    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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What ever sort order I choose is how File Explorer opens. There is no waiting for the files to get sorted.

Thanks. How many images are in the folder ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
    Hard Drives
    1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 Performance SSD
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    McAfee , Malwarebytes , Ccleaner

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Ah ok, mine have from about 300 files (total about 300 MB) to about 14000 files (total about 3 GB).

I can notice the effect already in the 300 folder , although it is just a tiny split second. That 300 folder sorts to DATE almost, but not fully, instantly.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
    Hard Drives
    1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 Performance SSD
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    McAfee , Malwarebytes , Ccleaner
I did some extensive online searches but it seems this can not be fixed easily. The standard way Windows sorts a directory is hard coded.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Laptop Zenbook Pro 14
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-13900H 2.6 GHz, 24MB 14 cores 20 threads
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 and Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14.5" 2.8K OLED 16:10 120Hz 400nits
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800 pixels
    Hard Drives
    1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 4.0 Performance SSD
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    McAfee , Malwarebytes , Ccleaner
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