Hyper-VM create VM idosyncrasises

Hi folks
performance seems fine -- but seems if I create a Linux VM I get all sorts of rubbish with the iso boot to install the VM -- with some nonsense about "signed" validity - but the whole thing is fine if I just use the "HYPER-VM Quick create" option and select the ISO manually.

Then if you need to use "Bridged" networking you have to create a new external virtual switch via the "Virtual Switch manager" which is a bit of a pain -- also same if you want to change the number of virtual CPU's away from the default.

Otherwise - works perfectly satisfactorily. My only real gripes are the lack of dynamic usb / pcie re-direction and difficulty in pass thru hardware.

the console interface is OK saving the nonsense of using RDP from Windows (a real pain for desktop access to some Linux distros), and no need to install some sort of VNC server on the Guest.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

Hi folks
performance seems fine -- but seems if I create a Linux VM I get all sorts of rubbish with the iso boot to install the VM -- with some nonsense about "signed" validity - but the whole thing is fine if I just use the "HYPER-VM Quick create" option and select the ISO manually.

Then if you need to use "Bridged" networking you have to create a new external virtual switch via the "Virtual Switch manager" which is a bit of a pain -- also same if you want to change the number of virtual CPU's away from the default.

Otherwise - works perfectly satisfactorily. My only real gripes are the lack of dynamic usb / pcie re-direction and difficulty in pass thru hardware.

the console interface is OK saving the nonsense of using RDP from Windows (a real pain for desktop access to some Linux distros), and no need to install some sort of VNC server on the Guest.

Cheers
jimbo

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You have to bear in mind Hyper-V was never really designed as a general purpose virtual machine tool.

It roots on W10/11 come from server versions designed to run compartmentalised windows guest primarily for corporate applications.

It is great for Windows Pro (and plus) guests, less so for Windows Home, and other OSs.

External switches are easy enough to use but only needed if Guest need the be on same subnet as Host.

Not sure what you are talking about when installing Linux guests. You can either boot from an iso or use predefined (quick create) installers.

The quick create installers install a prefefined configuration e.g. Ubuntu with xrdp ready to go with emhanced mode setup.

With a standard iso, for Ubuntu, you need to add xrdp, enhanced mode, and even setup screen graphics etc.

cereberus said:

You have to bear in mind Hyper-V was never really designed as a general purpose virtual machine tool.

It roots on W10/11 come from server versions designed to run compartmentalised windows guest primarily for corporate applications.

It is great for Windows Pro (and plus) guests, less so for Windows Home, and other OSs.

External switches are easy enough to use but only needed if Guest need the be on same subnet as Host.

Not sure what you are talking about when installing Linux guests. You can either boot from an iso or use predefined (quick create) installers.

The quick create installers install a prefefined configuration e.g. Ubuntu with xrdp ready to go with emhanced mode setup.

With a standard iso, for Ubuntu, you need to add xrdp, enhanced mode, and even setup screen graphics etc.

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Tried OpenSUSE with KDE -- no need for XRDP etc. Works perfectly other than the "Grouses" I've made.
Several screenshots on some of my other posts.


No probs at all otherwise. I suspect most people using VM's at home want the VM to be on the same subnet as the host even if they have several machines on their LAN.

However I must complement Ms for providing a decent FREE Virtual Machine program -- which with limitations performs superbly.

I'm sure there are a few on these boards who remember what a dogs dinner XP Mode was whenWin 7 was launched. !!!

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

Tried OpenSUSE with KDE -- no need for XRDP etc. Works perfectly other than the "Grouses" I've made.
Several screenshots on some of my other posts.


No probs at all otherwise. I suspect most people using VM's at home want the VM to be on the same subnet as the host even if they have several machines on their LAN.

However I must complement Ms for providing a decent FREE Virtual Machine program -- which with limitations performs superbly.

I'm sure there are a few on these boards who remember what a dogs dinner XP Mode was whenWin 7 was launched. !!!

Cheers
jimbo

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It is actually more secure to run vm using default switch as it is behind a second NAT firewall but if you need to use port forwarding, you get the dreaded double port forwarding hassle.

TBH for most domestic users, if you have Windows 10/11 Pro, there is not a lot of incentive in installing type 2 hypervisors nowadays since Hyper-V has come along giant strides since Windows 8.

It is my experience people use vmware or virtualbox either because they do not have Hyper-V, or because it is not as intuitive with a higher learning curve.

Hiwever, there are quite a few excellent Hyper-V tutorials by @Kari in the sister tenforums.
site. That is how I learnt the basics.

My experience is that when most people get used to Hyper-V, they prefer it over the type 2 hypervisors.

One major plus of Hyper-V is the vhds are native MS vhdx format which means same vhdx file can be booted by Hyper-V or native booted on host.

I know you can use vhdxs in vmware but it is not as slick as in Hyper-V.

Another plus of Hyper-V is that it is very robust and does not fallover after build upgrades like the type 2s do now and then.

And it will always be free for Pro users (not getting into pointless (paranoid) speculation that MS will charge for Windows for Home/Pro users in future).

@cereberus

Agreed = it's very good now especially if you essentially want to use your VM as a file server -- I have absolutely loads of multi-media and audio files and Windows still for most applications which still use the old API e.g File explorer etc can't show path names and file names with a combined length > 266 Chars -- when WILL file explorer etc be fixed to do that.

Hyper-V seems to handle the Video adapter just perfectly too for the Guest -- running this all on a MiniPC with a N100 CPU -- don't underestimate the CPU's now in these MiniPC's -- no performance issues running Windows and the Guest concurrently.

For many who already have Mouse / monitor these MiniPC's are great for desktop replacements -- OK not gaming machines but these will really replace clunky old desktop PC's - they usually have 2 / 3 HDMI ports, 3 or 4 USB / USBC ports. blu tooth, Wifi (latest protocol) and a LAN connector. I'd never go back to a "Desktop PC" now. I'm running one of these flat out 24/7 just to test the reliability of the box -- so far no overheating, Disks quiesce when not in use so no heat problems there, and really are almost noiseless machines. Running a Windows Host where the CPU load etc is higher than running a Native Linux system is a better way IMO of Stress testing the box. I intend at a "Black Friday" sale to get another 3 of these and dedicate them to specific tasks. I've already ditched two large-ish HP Pro proliant Gen 8 servers !!!

As to why one would come up against the limit -- easy enough when you have a lot of online storage -- e,g on this HYPER-V GUEST

(Note here for the CPU each virtual CPU is shown with a frequency of around 0.8 GhZ == so 4 X is 3.32 GHZ which is the native spec as shown by Windows if you run the msinfo32.exe command So no mean slouch).

Guest :


Host :



Cheers
jimbo