Insider KB5039239 Windows 11 Insider Release Preview build 26100.863 (24H2) - June 15

fg2001gf11F · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
I have just done a clean install, deleting all existing partitions. After going online Windows Update checked for updates and installed them, including the display driver. I then installed Macrium Reflect in order for there to be a boot menu. The end result was exactly the same - boot menu is pink and squashed into the left half of the screen.

Was it already pink before checking for updates?

Another user, on MS forum, reported the pink boot menu with a Dell Latitude 5510.

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
Was it already pink before checking for updates?

Windows Update checked for and installed updates before I had a chance to test that. It installed the 30.0.101.1338 display driver.

hsehestedt · Jun 10, 2024

"Recall" is only for ARM based laptops. It won't run on Intel / AMD CPU based systems.

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
Another user, on MS forum, reported the pink boot menu with a Dell Latitude 5510.

Tested with my Canary build as default OS: if I uninstall the Intel UHD Graphics driver in Canary it reverts to the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter. With that I get a normal blue boot menu. Windows Update then installs the Intel driver and it returns to being pink/distorted.

My RTM 23H2 has exactly the same driver installed, the boot menu is normal with 23H2 as the default OS. Something in 24H2 has changed and doesn't work properly with the Intel drivers on the boot menu (I've already tried several different driver versions). Windows itself has no problems with any of the drivers, though.

Dirtyflash · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
Tested with my Canary build as default OS: if I uninstall the Intel UHD Graphics driver in Canary it revert to the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter. With that I get a normal blue boot menu. Windows Update then installs the Intel driver and it returns to being pink/distorted.

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My RTM 23H2 has exactly the same driver installed, the boot menu is normal with 23H2 as the default OS. Something in 24H2 has changed and doesn't work properly with the Intel drivers (I've already tried several different versions).

Hmm ... do you have any previous Intel Graphics driver versions to test. Not that you probably want to waste any more time on it, as MS may have a fix for it on the next update, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

mecanicogolf · Jun 10, 2024

Dirtyflash said:
Hmm ... do you have any previous Intel Graphics driver versions to test. Not that you probably want to waste any more time on it, as MS may have a fix for it on the next update, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

I think all of you are spinning your wheels. It's not really that important, just different. And it works the same, right?

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

mecanicogolf said:
I think all of you are spinning your wheels. It's not really that important, just different. And it works the same, right?

No, it is important - because it doesn't work, as you can see here....

...while the image may be distorted and squashed to the left, where you have to click to choose an OS hasn't changed, they are all in their usual positions - it's unusable as it is.

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

Dirtyflash said:
Hmm ... do you have any previous Intel Graphics driver versions to test. Not that you probably want to waste any more time on it.....

I have a lot to choose from on the Dell support site for my 3190 2-in-1. I'll give it one more go, using ~~the oldest driver available, 22.20.16.4836 from July 2018~~.

Edit: that was too old and wouldn't install, I'll try a slightly newer one....

Dirtyflash · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
I have a lot to choose from on the Dell support site for my 3190 2-in-1. I'll give it one more go, using the oldest driver available, 22.20.16.4836 from July 2018.

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It may be a lost cause, nevertheless, I admire your persistence.

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

Dirtyflash said:
.... I admire your persistence.

I've run out of options. Only the two latest drivers will install, the rest say they don't support this OS version, and both those produce the distorted boot menu :ffs:

NormanF · Jun 10, 2024

hsehestedt said:
"Recall" is only for ARM based laptops. It won't run on Intel / AMD CPU based systems.

They're working on a hack for it. Someone got it to run on AMD. Intel is still a work in progress.

You don't need the latest and greatest to run one app. I'm betting that will proven before long.

Dirtyflash · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
I've run out of options. Only the two latest drivers will install, the rest say they don't support this OS version, and both those produce the distorted boot menu

You tried, let's see what tomorrow brings?

fg2001gf11F · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
I have a lot to choose from on the Dell support site for my 3190 2-in-1. I'll give it one more go, using ~~the oldest driver available, 22.20.16.4836 from July 2018~~.

Edit: that was too old and wouldn't install, I'll try a slightly newer one....

Hi Bree,
On your list I see one driver that Windows loads on my desktop UHD Graphics 630, that Version 27.20.100.9664.
Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce your problem and cannot write an FBH report.
Even with that driver I get the full screen regular blue boot menu. My Intel Display adapter is different than yours.
Interesting that you said that it works with the Microsoft Basic Display adapter driver.
I'll pass that info to the user that have your same problem with the other model of Dell Latitude.
He is a MS volunteer moderator, and he sure can write an FBH report to wake up MS.

This driver is fine on my Dell XPS 8930 it is loaded when I install Canary.

Same behavior with latest driver 31.0.101.2128

Bree · Jun 10, 2024

fg2001gf11F said:
Interesting that you said that it works with the Microsoft Basic Display adapter driver.
I'll pass that info to the user that have your same problem with the other model of Dell Latitude.
He is a MS volunteer moderator, and he sure can write an FBH report to wake up MS.

Great idea - that should get someone's attention :thumbsup:

fg2001gf11F · Jun 10, 2024

Bree said:
Great idea - that should get someone's attention

We'll see how long before we get a fix.

There are only 2 issues that I can reproduce on my desktops using the Intel UHD graphics.

1) On the XPS 8930 with Intel UHD Graphics 630, I cannot get the DELL logo nor the progress spinning wheel, but the Boot menu is normal, blue and full screen.

2) On the XPS 8940 with Intel UHD Graphics 750, I get the shrunk blue menu in the middle of the screen, but it is fully functional.
If I use this: bcdedit /set {globalsettings} highestmode on
I get the full screen boot menu, but it screws up the shape and the position of the DELL logo.

Edit:
Here is the FBH report he filed.

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hsehestedt · Jun 11, 2024

Bree said:
I have just done a clean install of 26100.560 using the official Microsoft ISO, copied to a USB. I deleted all existing partitions then installed in the unallocated space. After going online Windows Update checked for updates and installed them, including the display driver. I then installed Macrium Reflect in order for there to be a boot menu. The end result was exactly the same - boot menu is pink and squashed into the left half of the screen.

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Let me ask a question, because I am not 100% certain on this point myself, but on the screen shown in the above screenshot, Windows is not yet loaded, not is the Windows display driver. Here is where I am uncertain: At the point where the above screenshot is taken, isn't it just running the default display driver?

This in turn leads me to wonder what the result would be if you choose to boot into safe mode with the option for not loading the display driver.

blackroseMD1 · Jun 11, 2024

The only real issue that I'm seeing on this build (26100.712) is that the shortcut for HDR (Win+Alt+B) will turn HDR off, but won't turn it on, whether I've had it turned on before or not. I have to manually turn HDR on every time.

I've tried to change the HDR key combo in the Game Bar settings, but the new key combo shows the same behavior.

Bree · Jun 11, 2024

hsehestedt said:
Let me ask a question, because I am not 100% certain on this point myself, but on the screen shown in the above screenshot, Windows is not yet loaded, not is the Windows display driver. Here is where I am uncertain: At the point where the above screenshot is taken, isn't it just running the default display driver?

When you have a multi-boot system as I have you can set any of the available versions of Windows as the default OS. Whichever one you choose, that is the one that is loaded up when you first boot up and is responsible for displaying the boot menu. So yes, by that time it will be using its own installed display driver. You can see clearly which OS is loading and displaying the boot menu if one of the Windows is Windows 10. When Windows 10 is the default OS the spinning circle before the boot menu appears is made of dots, while when Windows 11 is the default OS it is solid.

hsehestedt said:
This in turn leads me to wonder what the result would be if you choose to boot into safe mode with the option for not loading the display driver.

A consequence of this (certainly with my native boot vhdx, and almost certainly for conventional dual boot too) is that only the default OS is able to boot in safe mode. If I need to boot a particular OS in safe mode, I first have to set it as the default OS. And if that's a 24H2 build I get the pink/distorted boot menu.