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Wisewiz · Jan 12, 2023

@cereberus

That report is from 8.0. I don't have 8.1 yet, and I'm happy about that, given the problems involved.

kado897 · Jan 12, 2023

cereberus said:
How does that compare with V8.0?

With me it's about twice as fast.

cereberus · Jan 12, 2023

kado897 said:
With me it's about twice as fast.

Funny thing is my full backups take less than three minutes with my new vme drive now with v8.

The only tool I found that was much faster was use of native Winfows FFU command!

kado897 · Jan 12, 2023

cereberus said:
Funny thing is my full backups take less than three minutes with my new vme drive now with v8.

The only tool I found that was much faster was use of native Winfows FFU command!

I've not done a full image yet, just differentials, Saturday is my full image.

Stigg · Jan 12, 2023

Bree said:
Yes, I've seen that in action having just tested doing an Incremental on the one machine that got the 8.1 upgrade.

There is one bug though that everyone with 8.1 appears to suffer including me. If you have CBT installed then you cannot use 'safe eject' for a usb HDD, it always says the drive is in use. Disabling CBT for the external drive is not enough, unistalling CBT is the only workaround for that, or shutting down before you unplug the HDD of course.

I quit using/installing CBT years ago.
It gave me too many problems. If it wasn't one computer with a CBT issue, it'd be another one.
I worked with Macrium support on CBT issues for a long time, but I ended up deciding that it wasn't worth it.
The problems outweighed the benefits for me.

You only have to look at the Reflect changelogs over the past few years, and you'll see CBT appearing consistently.

Badger · Jan 12, 2023

Stigg said:
I quit using/installing CBT years ago.
It gave me too many problems. If it wasn't one computer with a CBT issue, it'd be another one.
I worked with Macrium support on CBT issues for a long time, but I ended up deciding that it wasn't worth it.
The problems outweighed the benefits for me.

You only have to look at the Reflect changelogs over the past few years, and you'll see CBT appearing consistently.

Stigg, just curious, what program(s) do you use for system backups there?

Cromax · Jan 12, 2023

Badger said:
Stigg, just curious, what program(s) do you use for system backups there?

wondering the same

Bree · Jan 12, 2023

Badger said:
Stigg, just curious, what program(s) do you use for system backups there?

Cromax said:
wondering the same

CBT is a Premium (paid for) feature, but it is an option that you can de-select when installing Reflect Home. CBT can help make backups quicker, but it is not a necessary component. CBT is not included in Reflect Free. Stigg can use Reflect Home without CBT by custom installing it and not including CBT.

Stigg · Jan 13, 2023

Badger said:
Stigg, just curious, what program(s) do you use for system backups there?

Over the years, I've tested many backup programs. I guess you could say I'm a backup enthusiast. For me, it's the most important application on my computers.

In recent years, I have settled with three backup programs that run on a schedule on all my computers.
All three are extremely reliable. In fact, I can't remember having any failed restores.

The three backup applications are:
Macrium Reflect (Home & Server) I own a Home 4-pack. The Server licence was given to me by Macrium for being a beta tester. I don't install CBT or Image Guardian.
TeraByte Image For Windows (A very reliable and powerful backup application. It has a steeper learning curve, but well worth the time spent learning about it and it's additional features)
Drive Snapshot (A very tiny and reliable standalone backup application).

Badger · Jan 13, 2023

Stigg said:
Over the years, I've tested many backup programs. I guess you could say I'm a backup enthusiast. For me, it's the most important application on my computers.

In recent years, I have settled with three backup programs that run on a schedule on all my computers.
All three are extremely reliable. In fact, I can't remember having any failed restores.

The three backup applications are:
Macrium Reflect (Home & Server) I own a Home 4-pack. The Server licence was given to me by Macrium for being a beta tester. I don't install CBT or Image Guardian.
TeraByte Image For Windows (A very reliable and powerful backup application. It has a steeper learning curve, but well worth the time spent learning about it and it's additional features)
Drive Snapshot (A very tiny and reliable standalone backup application).

Thanks for the response! I've also used Terabyte Image for Windows and I agree it's a powerful and reliable backup program.

trevo · Jan 13, 2023

Bree said:
CBT is a Premium (paid for) feature, but it is an option that you can de-select when installing Reflect Home. CBT can help make backups quicker, but it is not a necessary component. CBT is not included in Reflect Free. Stigg can use Reflect Home without CBT by custom installing it and not including CBT.

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Does CBT only affect incremental backups?

Bree · Jan 13, 2023

trevo said:
Does CBT only affect incremental backups?

Incrementals and Differentials.....

Macrium Reflect Changed Block Tracker (MRCBT) reduces the amount of time it takes to perform incremental and differential images by monitoring the changes to an NTFS formatted volume in real-time. This is especially relevant when a file system contains very large files, such as virtual hard disk (VHD) files, where speed improvements are significant and can reduce the Incremental image time from hours to minutes or even seconds.

Macrium Changed Block Tracker - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

kado897 · Jan 13, 2023

trevo said:
Does CBT only affect incremental backups?

It only affects incremental and differential backups and it's designed to make them faster by tracking changes.

trevo · Jan 13, 2023

Thanks for the replies, I checked and I have CBT installed, but rarely do anything but a full backup, as it only takes around 6 minutes.

pietcorus2 · Jan 13, 2023

trevo said:
Thanks for the replies, I checked and I have CBT installed, but rarely do anything but a full backup, as it only takes around 6 minutes.

Dont use it ..........so dont install it ! :wink:

KevTech · Jan 17, 2023

I see the details about 8.1 are on the site but from what I have read here it has been pulled for now.

New in Version 8.1 - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

Stigg · Jan 17, 2023

KevTech said:
I see the details about 8.1 are on the site but from what I have read here it has been pulled for now.

New in Version 8.1 - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

That version is for people who like to walk on the wild side.

Actually, I think it's a CBT issue, yet again. So, if you don't install CBT, you'd probably be OK too.

kado897 · Jan 17, 2023

Stigg said:
That version is for people who like to walk on the wild side.

Actually, I think it's a CBT issue, yet again. So, if you don't install CBT, you'd probably be OK too.

There has been discussion about CBT being the culprit on the MR forum. We haven't been able to come to a conclusion.

Bree · Jan 17, 2023

KevTech said:
I see the details about 8.1 are on the site but from what I have read here it has been pulled for now.

New in Version 8.1 - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

Yes, it was pulled shortly after release due to a few people having issues, in particular not being able to boot up after the install......

Stigg said:
That version is for people who like to walk on the wild side.

Actually, I think it's a CBT issue, yet again. So, if you don't install CBT, you'd probably be OK too.

It's not that clear, I got it on one of my machines before it was pulled. I have CBT installed and didn't have the issues.

kado897 said:
There has been discussion about CBT being the culprit on the MR forum. We haven't been able to come to a conclusion.

MR Forum thread here:

PC does not boot anymore after 8.1 upgrade

forum.macrium.com

wiganken · Jan 17, 2023

Just butting-in on another MR related issue: - In the image shown in post #234 Macrium state that the latest version is 8.0.7175 but does this only apply to the paid-for version? I have the free version and that is 8.0.7279 [UEFI] which was installed via Macrium's 'Check for updates' sometime recently. Is this another pulled release? It seems to be working okay in creating Diff images so I assume it is okay to leave it installed?