Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware

spapakons · Nov 5, 2021

It could be a security update, so the version does not change. Not every update changes the Windows version. You can check update history to confirm that update was installed successfully.

Timaximus · Nov 5, 2021

Releasing Windows 11 KB5008295 to Beta and Release Preview Channels

Please note: After installing KB5008295, the build number will not be revised or show as updated in “winver” or other areas in the OS. To confirm this update is installed, please check Settings > Windows Update > Update history.

Releasing Windows 11 KB5008295 to Beta and Release Preview Channels

Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing Windows 11 KB5008295 to Windows Insiders in the Beta and Release Preview Channels. This update includes the following improvements: We fixed a known issue that might prevent some users from

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junglee · Nov 5, 2021

spapakons said:
It could be a security update, so the version does not change. Not every update changes the Windows version. You can check update history to confirm that update was installed successfully.

Thanks. I have already checked that it was installed successfully.

spapakons said:
It could be a security update, so the version does not change. Not every update changes the Windows version. You can check update history to confirm that update was installed successfully.

spapakons · Nov 5, 2021

I recently discovered there is a hidden Power Plan, the Ultimate Power Plan that is only enabled in Windows 10/11 for Workstations by default, but it can also be enabled in standard Windows 10/11 Home and Windows 10/11 Pro versions using a command as Administrator. This plan enables the turbo boost of the CPU permanently and avoids any performance drop to maximize performance of a Workstation computer, or in our case on our regular computer. The only drawback is that it will consume more power. For a desktop computer this is not an issue, I believe it will not impact too much the electric bill. For a laptop it will make the battery last less, so I would not do it. But for an old laptop that the battery is useless or dead and we use it mostly connected to the mains, it could give an extra bit of performance. The difference might be small, it might also be a placebo (we think is faster but is the same), but it wouldn't harm to do it anyway.

So if you need to enable the Ultimate Power Plan open a command prompt or PowerShell as Administrator and execute the following code:

Code:

powercfg -duplicatescheme e9a42b02-d5df-448d-aa00-03f14749eb61

Then go to Power Settings and select this plan. Bingo! No need to restart. I would recommend it for all old computers, at least all desktop computers. We have nothing to lose, even if it is placebo, I like it.

Bree · Nov 5, 2021

junglee said:
I wonder if my device has stopped upgrading Windows 11 further.

No, KB5008295 is not a cumulative update, only a CU changes the build number in Winver. This update fixes a security certificate issue that prevents the Snipping Tool and some other apps from opening.

Please note: After installing KB5008295, the build number will not be revised or show as updated in “winver” or other areas in the OS. To confirm this update is installed, please check Settings > Windows Update > Update history.

KB5008295 Windows 11 Insider Preview Beta and Release Preview Build 22000.282 - Nov. 4

UPDATE 11/12: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5007262-windows-11-insider-preview-beta-and-release-preview-build-22000-346-nov-12.2741/ UPDATE 11/5: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/kb5008295-out-of-band-update-for-windows-11-nov-5.2541/ Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing Windows 11...

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jbcarreon123 · Nov 8, 2021

Bree said:
only a CU changes the build number in Winver

Agreed.

spapakons · Nov 11, 2021

Hello!

As I have said in one of my older posts, I have a hybrid installation USB (Windows 10 ISO with install.wim replaced from Windows 11 ISO) for installing the English (US) version of Windows 11. I want to modify an existing USB flash drive to make it a hybrid installation USB for the Greek version. I do not want to lose the files already in the USB Flash drive, and I would like to avoid the hassle of copying all the contents to my computer, create the USB and then restore them. So I tried to just copy all the folders and files from Windows 10 64-bit GR ISO and then replace install.esd of Windows 10 with install.wim from Windows 11 GR ISO.

Of course the final step is to make the USB flash drive bootable, and here is where I need your help.

I tried the following code, but when I tried to boot the drive, it wouldn't boot.

Code:

bcdboot c:\windows /s d: /f BIOS

I also tried the "/f ALL" parameter (instead of "/f BIOS") to make it bootable in both UEFI and Legacy BIOS. This also failed to boot.

Please tell me the correct code to make it bootable, at least for Legacy BIOS, so I won't have to backup all the contents, create it from start and then restore them. This would take more than half an hour and I would like to avoid it. Thanks.

Bree · Nov 11, 2021

spapakons said:
Please tell me the correct code to make it bootable, at least for Legacy BIOS, so I won't have to backup all the contents, create it from start and then restore them. This would take more than half an hour and I would like to avoid it. Thanks.

For a Legacy BIOS bootble USB you need to mark the USB's Fat32 partition as Active after copying all the boot files to it. Then on the PC use the F12 one-time boot menu, or however else you would boot from any USB.

spapakons · Nov 11, 2021

The USB Flash drive is formatted in NTFS and has too many files I wouldn't like to waste time to backup. Is there any other method or utility to make it boot into Windows Setup? All the files and folders from Windows 10 ISO are there, except I have replaced Windows 10 install.esd with Windows 11 install.wim in the sources folder so it installs Windows 11 instead. Both ISOs are from 64-bit Greek version, so they should match. As far as I know, in Rufus the CSM/Legacy option also selects NTFS. The FAT32 is selected for the UEFI/GPT option. I want to create a Legacy BIOS USB Flash drive, so NTFS should not pose a problem. I have already set the partition active. What am I missing? Is there any utility to check whether a USB flash drive is bootable without having to actually boot it? Thanks.

spapakons · Nov 12, 2021

I just cheated. I copied the file \boot\BCD from my working English hybrid USB into the \boot folder of the Greek USB replacing it. It now boots OK, however I am just curious which are the correct parameters in either bcdboot or bcdedit to make it work. Also I read somewhere that I can make a bootable USB using EasyBCD. Bulls*it, doesn't work because it doesn't load the correct file (mount \sources\boot.wim and load \Windows\system32\boot\winload.exe), it tries to load winload.exe from the physical USB drive which of course doesn't exist and fails.

SHJordanSLIM · Nov 16, 2021

Any 6600k owner can share the experience so far with w11? any BSODs? I mainly use my PC as a workstation and for games.

spapakons · Nov 17, 2021

I tried recently to upgrade my main PC (Intel Core i3-3770, 16GB RAM) to Windows 11. I cloned the SSD to a spare SSD so I would not lose Windows 10. I booted from the new SSD, mounted the Windows 11 ISO and run Setup. Before proceeding I deleted the appropriate file from setup cache to bypass compatibility checks. I then let the computer upgrade unattended. This computer is at my parent's house, and I usually access it remotely with AnyDesk, so I just let it upgrade unattended and left for my house and I would hopefully access it in Windows 11 after the upgrade was over. Unfortunately Setup failed because at some point the computer could not detect the SSD (not a software issue, probably a hardware issue) and I could not see what happened the whole weekend. Therefore, I don't have the chance yet to use Windows 11 as my main OS. I will try again when I visit my parents again and I will let you know. Thanks God I had cloned Windows 10 and could connected the original SSD back, or I would be without computer! However, I did install Windows 11 at my test Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM laptop (see my specs) and had no issues at all. Any upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 or from an old Windows 11 build to a newer requires to hack again, but after this completes without any issues. All other updates install through Windows Update without any compatibility check. All Windows 7 and 10 64-bit drivers work also in Windows 11, so I had no driver issues either. For the Intel Mobile 4 (aka GMA 4500) graphics drivers Windows Update installs the generic Microsoft WDDM 1.1 driver, but there is no Intel Control Panel. I replaced it with a custom driver (modified Windows 7 driver to install in 10 and 11) that provides more features and the Intel Control Panel, see this Tenforums thread: Custom Driver : Intel GMA 4500 MHD Extreme Plus - by nIGHmAYOR - Windows 10 Help Forums Don't forget to block (hide) the Intel driver update with Windows Update Show/Hide Tool so it won't replace the custom driver. See this Tenforums thread: Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10 (Yes, the tool works in all Windows 10 and Windows 11 versions)

dbartenstein · Nov 17, 2021

I was able to install yesterday on an old Dell E6410. MBR drive, unsupported CPU, No TPM, No SecureBoot. Used an ISO from about a month ago and them ran Update to the latest build after the install. Easy-peasy using the Regedit fix when you get the incompatible message.

ThrashZone · Nov 17, 2021

SHJordanSLIM said:
Any 6600k owner can share the experience so far with w11? any BSODs? I mainly use my PC as a workstation and for games.

Hi,
Q9550 system no issues.

dany007119966 · Nov 29, 2021

works ok on my potato i5 7400

spapakons · Nov 29, 2021

dany007119966 said:
works ok on my potato i5 7400

If your 7th gen is potato, then my 3rd gen is rubbish... I had a faulty SSD, so I could not clone my Windows 10 installationm and upgrade to 11 yet. As soon as I replace the SSD I will and report.

6391mb · Nov 29, 2021

spapakons said:
If your 7th gen is potato, then my 3rd gen is rubbish... I had a faulty SSD, so I could not clone my Windows 10 installationm and upgrade to 11 yet. As soon as I replace the SSD I will and report.

Didn't need to clone anything. All it took with me using an i7 with that well documented reg amendment and 11 installed fine from the ISO with the windows.old folder created.

dany007119966 · Nov 29, 2021

i use this program wintohdd install into external drive and everything works ok :)

mackie · Nov 29, 2021

Hi all,

I am running Windows 11 on my Dell Optiplex 960 desktop which does not meet any of the Win 11 specs for installation
at all. I tried various methods to install and had no luck. I had just about given up on it, and last week was looking on youtube
when I saw this recent video. The comments on it were positive, and it was very, very easy to do. So I gave it a try and was pleasantly
surprised when 11 started installing. If you haven't had any luck installing on your old hardware and you want to give it a try, this is it:

And good luck.

Btw, I run a dual-boot on this desktop Win 11/Linux Mint.

p.s The only problem I encountered with Win 11, was the first day after I installed it and went to do a shutdown that night. It kept coming
back up, and not in the Grub boot loader, but in Win 11 itself. I did a physical shutdown on the pc. I was expecting this the next day, but it never reappeared and it's been normal since then.

spapakons · Nov 29, 2021

I recently read how to create a little batch file (much like a script for command prompt) to automatically patch the Registry before a clean installation. Open a Notepad and copy-paste this code. Then save this file with an easy name such as bypass.bat Make sure the extension is actually .bat and not .bat.txt or it won't work. Copy this file on the USB Flash drive you are going to use for a clean installation. Boot the USB on the target unsupported computer and wait until you see the first screen of Windows Setup. Before you do anything else, press SHIFT+F10 to open a command prompt. Change the current drive to the one of the Flash drive, say D:, list the contents of the drive to make sure bypass.bat is actually there and then type bypass.bat to execute it and patch Registry. Once done you can type exit to close the command prompt and proceed with Setup.

Copy-paste this code into Notepad to create the batch file:

Code:

@echo off
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassTPMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassSecureBootCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassRAMCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassStorageCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL
reg add HKLM\System\Setup\LabConfig /v BypassCPUCheck /t reg_dword /d 0x00000001 /f > NUL

Execute this code in command prompt to locate and run the batch file:

Code:

D:
dir
bypass.bat
exit

The first line changes the current drive to D: and the second line lists all contents. If you don't see bypass.bat, repeat line 1 with the next drive letter, E:, F:, etc until you find your USB Flash drive and you see bypass.bat on the list. Then execute the third line to path Registry and the fourth line to close the command prompt.