Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware

Hazel123 · Oct 22, 2021

Another issue since updates today. Extra/double blank icons in menu.

Plus can't copy and paste (or open) photos from iphone. Initially it was an error message but now they don't display at all as photos (they are jpegs). Although hadn't actually tried to transfer photos from iphone before so that may have already been an issue before today's updates.

spapakons · Oct 22, 2021

No updates available in my case, including optional updates. So I probably have installed them all. I did not notice any issue, see my specs.

Wisewiz · Oct 22, 2021

spapakons said:
... I didn't find how to start Task Manager by right-clicking on the taskbar, as in Windows 10. How can I add this? I don't mean to pin Task Manager, I mean to make it available when I right-click on the taskbar.

In W10, you right-clicked the taskbar and got a pop-up menu that included Task Manager, and you left-clicked that to get Task Manager. Two clicks: one right and one left.

Now in W11, you can open Windows Tools, right click Task Manager, and select Pin to Taskbar (not to Start). Then, if you right-click the Task Manager icon, you get a pop-up that offers Task Manager, and if you left-click that, you'll have Task Manager. Two clicks: one right, one left. Same sequence, just a different click-target (the icon, instead of the whole task bar).

Or, you can just left-click the icon and you're in Task Manager.

I think the right-left sequence on the icon is as close as you're going to get to the W10 right-left sequence. (At least for now. At least without some third-party add-on.)

dbartenstein · Oct 22, 2021

Wisewiz said:
In W10, you right-clicked the taskbar and got a pop-up menu that included Task Manager, and you left-clicked that to get Task Manager. Two clicks: one right and one left.

Now in W11, you can open Windows Tools, right click Task Manager, and select Pin to Taskbar (not to Start). Then, if you right-click the Task Manager icon, you get a pop-up that offers Task Manager, and if you left-click that, you'll have Task Manager. Two clicks: one right, one left. Same sequence, just a different click-target (the icon, instead of the whole task bar).

Or, you can just left-click the icon and you're in Task Manager.

I think the right-left sequence on the icon is as close as you're going to get to the W10 right-left sequence. (At least for now. At least without some third-party add-on.)
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You can also right-click the start button and Task Manager is in the list that comes up

Wisewiz · Oct 22, 2021

Yeah, well, not if you've edited it out of the Win X menu:

dbartenstein · Oct 22, 2021

Wisewiz said:
Yeah, well, not if you've edited it out of the Win X menu:
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Well that would be a self-inflicted problem.... :wink:

Wisewiz · Oct 22, 2021

Easy to recover from, if I so wished.

dbartenstein · Oct 22, 2021

Wisewiz said:
Easy to recover from, if I so wished.

Most certainly! :)

spapakons · Oct 22, 2021

Even better, if I could go to Task Manager by right-clicking on the desktop. How can I add Task Manager to the context list?

dany00711 · Oct 23, 2021

startallback 3.1 out :wink:

spapakons · Oct 23, 2021

But not free

dany00711 · Oct 23, 2021

its free

jaree1961 · Oct 23, 2021

Pretty sure it is NOT free.
"After installing it runs for 30 days. If you don't activate it with license number you bought within 30 days, it will still work, but in limited mode: Start Menu will be blank and sad; every boot you'll be nagged about evaluation period over. "

And the new version is 3.01, not 3.1 :)

jaree1961 · Oct 24, 2021

And IMO, I think talk about "Startallback" should really be chatted about in here StartAllBack

But I aint the boss

spapakons · Oct 25, 2021

Classic Start Menu doesn't work on Windows 11, the same with Classic Shell or Open Shell which also add customization to Windows Explorer. Customization of Windows Explorer (cut-copy-paste icons etc) works, but not for the taskbar.

dany00711 · Oct 25, 2021

for me classics start menu works ok :)

spapakons · Oct 26, 2021

Beware of Windows Update replacing your drivers! A few minutes earlier I had a small HP notebook that was crawling on the internet and frequently disconnecting because Windows Update had replaced the Intel 5100 AGN wireless driver with a generic Microsoft driver. I could not even connect to Intel's site to download the proper driver. I connected from another computer and downloaded the latest official Intel 5100 AGN driver for Windows 64-bit. Then I used a USB flash drive to transfer the driver to the notebook. To make sure the correct driver was installed, I didn't run setup, but I extracted the files to a folder and then went in Device Manager and manually replaced the faulty driver with the files from the folder. Running Setup might decide you already have the best driver and not replace it. The only way to make sure it is replaced is by manually forcing it from Device Manager. After this internet was super fast and never disconnected again. That's why I prefer manually download latest drivers from manufacturer rather than rely entirely on Windows Update.

junglee · Oct 26, 2021

spapakons said:
Beware of Windows Update replacing your drivers! A few minutes earlier I had a small HP notebook that was crawling on the internet and frequently disconnecting because Windows Update had replaced the Intel 5100 AGN wireless driver with a generic Microsoft driver. I could not even connect to Intel's site to download the proper driver. I connected from another computer and downloaded the latest official Intel 5100 AGN driver for Windows 64-bit. Then I used a USB flash drive to transfer the driver to the notebook. To make sure the correct driver was installed, I didn't run setup, but I extracted the files to a folder and then went in Device Manager and manually replaced the faulty driver with the files from the folder. Running Setup might decide you already have the best driver and not replace it. The only way to make sure it is replaced is by manually forcing it from Device Manager. After this internet was super fast and never disconnected again. That's why I prefer manually download latest drivers from manufacturer rather than rely entirely on Windows Update.

You have made a very important and valid point that one should install the drivers from original maker instead of using a Microsoft generic driver. I keep my drivers updated by using a driver updating App that gets the latest drivers from the original manufacturer. Have you tried any such Apps?