Let's install Windows 11 on incompatible hardware

ThrashZone · Oct 12, 2021

BunnyJ said:
Odd.. but it doesn't. MS has supplied a work around but the strongly recoment not doing it.

Hi,
Yeah that is because of the cpu not tpm 1.2 is bad.

Boards have tpm ports
People bought the chips some from scalpers for 10-20x more because MS released this silly requirement
Now they have the compatibility for tpm 1.2 or maybe 2.0

So MS threw them a life line that is actually pretty surprising that MS did that.

Only bad thing might be bitlocker can't be used lol

BunnyJ · Oct 12, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah that is because of the cpu not tpm 1.2 is bad.

Boards have tpm ports
People bought the chips some from scalpers for 10-20x more because MS released this silly requirement
Now they have the compatibility for tpm 1.2 or maybe 2.0

So MS threw them a life line that is actually pretty surprising that MS did that.

Only bad thing might be bitlocker can't be used lol

MS never forced anyone to upgrade to 11 or buy parts they didn't need. As for bitlocker,, most main stream users don't need that. It's great for business etc but I doubt a user who just browses the web or plays games needs it

SlicEnDicE · Oct 12, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
If that little warning turns you off not sure what to say besides it clearly state tpm 1.2 is a new minimum warning or not besides the warning is more because the cpu is still not listed as compatible not because tpm 1.2 is an issue

Hey I run Windows 11 on 10 years old hardware without any issues what so ever. Why? Because I can. But that does not mean I recommend everybody else should do it. Nor do I put out false information about changed system requirements. (at least not on purpose)

Minimum Windows 11 system requirements are what they are and they have not changed since they were released and revisited once. It is very unlikely they will revisit this and lower the requirements in the future. TPM2.0 gives several magnitudes better protection compared to TPM1.2. What might change is possibly added support for older (1 or 2 generations) CPUs that support TPM2.0, but that is also highly unlikely. MS stated their road forward already and it is unlikely they will change it.

ThrashZone · Oct 12, 2021

SlicEnDicE said:
Hey I run Windows 11 on 10 years old hardware without any issues what so ever. Why? Because I can. But that does not mean I recommend everybody else should do it. Nor do I put out false information about changed system requirements. (at least not on purpose)

Minimum Windows 11 system requirements are what they are and they have not changed since they were released and revisited once. It is very unlikely they will revisit this and lower the requirements in the future. TPM2.0 gives several magnitudes better protection compared to TPM1.2. What might change is possibly added support for older (1 or 2 generations) CPUs that support TPM2.0, but that is also highly unlikely. MS stated their road forward already and it is unlikely they will change it.

Hi,
I give people credit that they can read
Feel free to add onto any warning MS provides on the link but to me this is all cpu related period.

I have used the same crack for ALL new security requirements on my x299 system which can be fully compatible so can my z490 system but I'll use the crack on it too eventually.
These new security requirements are all silly.

MS just needs to dump defender and make people install real security lol

SlicEnDicE · Oct 12, 2021

ThrashZone said:
These new security requirements are all silly.

They aren't silly at all. They provide a lot of added security. Which is very important for business users in particular. All these security features already exist in Windows 10. MS only made some of them mandatory in Windows 11.

georges98 · Oct 12, 2021

will incompatible hardware get today's security patch ? let's see

ThrashZone · Oct 12, 2021

SlicEnDicE said:
They aren't silly at all. They provide a lot of added security. Which is very important for business users in particular. All these security features already exist in Windows 10. MS only made some of them mandatory in Windows 11.

Hi,
MS assumes everyone want to use bitlocker/ virtual machines/ remote desktop.

SlicEnDicE · Oct 12, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
MS assumes everyone want to use bitlocker/ virtual machines/ remote desktop.

LOL, no they don't.

Bree · Oct 12, 2021

Well, seems my unsupported System Two is getting all the same Patch Tuesday updates as a fully supported machine would do, including the latest Cumulative Update (the one that includes the latest security fixes).

SlicEnDicE · Oct 12, 2021

Same here.

nitewulf · Oct 12, 2021

Same here. No warning messages of any kind. This looks good.

ThrashZone · Oct 12, 2021

Hi,
I'm not going to update by trying out win-10 updates mini tool and see if it works on 11.

Hazel123 · Oct 12, 2021

Bree said:
Well, seems my unsupported System Two is getting all the same Patch Tuesday updates as a fully supported machine would do, including the latest Cumulative Update (the one that includes the latest security fixes).

View attachment 9760

That's interesting. So - although they say if you run it on incompatible hardware you won't get updates - you are getting updates. I wonder if this is like the thing of Windows 10 only being free for the first year (when it's still free to upgrade from W7 lol - or it was last time I tried which was a while ago now). As in - they don't want you to know it will work - they want you to buy a new laptop!

Bree · Oct 12, 2021

Hazel123 said:
That's interesting. So - although they say if you run it on incompatible hardware you won't get updates - you are getting updates

The exact wording of the statement from Microsoft is that "Devices that do not meet these system requirements will no longer be guaranteed to receive updates, including but not limited to security updates" (my bold)

I read this to mean that MS reserve the right to stop updates for unsupported devices at any time, though I suspect they won't exercise that right any time soon, if ever. But some time in the future they may want to add functions to the OS that can only work on supported devices. Rather than crashing all the unsupported ones they could pull the plug on updates. They would be able to point to that original statement should anyone complain saying 'don't say we didn't warn you'.

Hazel123 · Oct 12, 2021

Thanks for explaining that. Not sure if this has been mentioned before - but Asus creating firmware to support 6th and 7th gen computers to run W11.

"In fact, it seems that Asus has plans to support a number of 6th and 7th generation Intel processors, which is a great thing."

Your old laptop could still get Windows 11, thanks to Asus

Asus could bring Windows 11 to older hardware, even if Microsoft doesn't support it

www.tomsguide.com

dany00711 · Oct 13, 2021

yesterday updates works ok also on unsupported cpu :)

junglee · Oct 13, 2021

Bree said:
Well, seems my unsupported System Two is getting all the same Patch Tuesday updates as a fully supported machine would do, including the latest Cumulative Update (the one that includes the latest security fixes).

View attachment 9760

Same on my ASUS Laptop. It was such a relief.

dany00711 · Oct 13, 2021

also they testing new bios update for H110 all motherboards so we will wait

ThrashZone · Oct 13, 2021

dany00711 said:
also they testing new bios update for H110 all motherboards so we will wait

Hi,
I've got new bios for x299 that only activates tpm doubt I'll ever use it though.
Easier to disable checks
Beside that is only one feature I bypassed lol

spapakons · Oct 13, 2021

I don't care about the minimum requirements, as long as I can bypass the checks and install Windows 11. I have not confirmed the graphics card requirement, that it needs at least driver WDDM 2.0. First chance I'll try Windows 11 in a old machine with Vista drivers (WDDM 1.0) and let you know if that is true or not.