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When doing a backup on both my machines today I noticed on Write Method, one said Direct Write the other Using system cache, is that correct to have 2 different write methods? and which one is best?
 

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Click on Backup in the top menu.
There you can select those settings by choosing EDIT. It gives you three options, Direct Write, Use system cache, or auto where it will check the fastest method and use that method.
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Click on Backup in the top menu.
There you can select those settings by choosing EDIT. It gives you three options, Direct Write, Use system cache, or auto where it will check the fastest method and use that method.
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What is funny is if you select one option and it says it can be faster than other option, and if you select other option it says the same.

I cannot see any point other than leaving it in auto!
 

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I would guess that if you are putting the backup on a hard drive rather than an SSD, then the system cache method would be faster, but has the proviso that any power glitch would cause a corrupt backup. Maybe direct write is less likely to suffer from such power outages but would be slower. On the other hand, copying to an SSD is probably just as fast either way.
 

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What is funny is if you select one option and it says it can be faster than other option, and if you select other option it says the same.

I cannot see any point other than leaving it in auto!
Hi,
Yet the winpe recovery media is faster than both at creating or restoring system images.
 

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That's one of those settings I just let Macrium decide.
It's easy with a complex program to overthink things.
 

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Thanks @Ghot That is what I do. I seemed strange to me that they pick different methods It all works well enough so I leave well alone, I was just curious
 

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I've never messed with those settings because it just does what it says on the tin
 

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Hi,
Yet the winpe recovery media is faster than both at creating or restoring system images.
Not in my experienced - I do not get any real difference. I guess it depends on pc specs.
 

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Not in my experienced - I do not get any real difference. I guess it depends on pc specs.
Hi,
Spec's may effect it more in the os than using winpe seeing nothing else is running only reflect using recovery media.

I prefer winpe none the less I've never seen any errors making or restoring images using winpe and have just verifying an image in the os.
Last place you want to run into errors is restoring a system image or after waiting for one to be created and just simply verifying it lol
 

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Hi,
Spec's may effect it more in the os than using winpe seeing nothing else is running only reflect using recovery media.

I prefer winpe none the less I've never seen any errors making or restoring images using winpe and have just verifying an image in the os.r
Last place you want to run into errors is restoring a system image or after waiting for one to be created and just simply verifying it lol
I always mount image in viboot. Best way to test them. Never needed to make images offline.
 

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I forgot, where do I set MR8 for Direct Write? I have sporadic glitches that kinda sorta make backups interesting.
 

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I forgot, where do I set MR8 for Direct Write? I have sporadic glitches that kinda sorta make backups interesting.
What do you mean by direct write?
 

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I quote a snippet from one of your earlier posts:
Click on Backup in the top menu. There you can select those settings by choosing EDIT. It gives you three options, Direct Write, Use system cache, or auto where it will check the fastest method and use that method.

I must not be reading my MR options very thoroughly, I cannot remember seeing an option: Direct Write.
 

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I quote a snippet from one of your earlier posts:
Click on Backup in the top menu. There you can select those settings by choosing EDIT. It gives you three options, Direct Write, Use system cache, or auto where it will check the fastest method and use that method.

I must not be reading my MR options very thoroughly, I cannot remember seeing an option: Direct Write.
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Click on Backup in the top menu.
There you can select those settings by choosing EDIT. It gives you three options, Direct Write, Use system cache, or auto where it will check the fastest method and use that method.
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My students and I will be working on learning to back up our systems with Macrium. They're all senior citizens, so will use the free version 8. When writing the tutorial, I didn't see this particular page; is it available in the free version, and if so, how do I get to it?
 

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Wynona

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My students and I will be working on learning to back up our systems with Macrium. They're all senior citizens, so will use the free version 8. When writing the tutorial, I didn't see this particular page; is it available in the free version, and if so, how do I get to it?
Never mind . . . I didn't read the post correctly, but I found it. Here's a screenie and it looks like Direct Write I/O is faster for me.
 

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    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
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    ntel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
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    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
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    16384 MBytes
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
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    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
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    HP
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    Logitech Wave K350
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    Logitech M705
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    HP
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    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
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    Intel
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    16 GB
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    Intel UHD Graphics 630
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    Built-in
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    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
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    1920 x
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    Seagate
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    Intel i7 10th Generation
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    HP
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    HP/Intel?
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    Logitech Wave K350
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I found it. Will use it whenever I can, thanks all! :)
 

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Wynona

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I found it. Will use it whenever I can, thanks all! :)
Roland, if your problem is solved, would you click on the solved link? Thanks.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 20000.613
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy TE01-1xxx
    CPU
    ntel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz
    Motherboard
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1463MHz (21-21-21-47)
    Memory
    16384 MBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitor 1 - Acer 27" Monitor 2 - Acer 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WDC PC SN530 SDBPNPZ-512G-1006 (SSD)
    Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102
    Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device (SSD)
    PSU
    HP
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    Standard
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    100 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's all Folks!
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 (10th gen) 10700
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 27" & Samsung 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x
    Hard Drives
    SSD (512 GB)
    HDD (1 TB)
    Seagate
    PSU
    Intel i7 10th Generation
    Case
    HP
    Cooling
    HP/Intel?
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave K350
    Internet Speed
    50 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox 90.2
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Headphone/Microphone Combo
    SuperSpeed USB Type-A (4 on front)
    HP 3-in-One Card Readr
    SuperSpeed USB Type-C
    DVD Writer
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