Solved Macrium Restore WIN 10 to 2nd SSD on a WIN 11 Dell XPS


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I have a new Dell XPS with WIN 11 on the C: drive. I have a ‘clean’ SSD D: drive (500 GB) and a Macrium image (Laptop Jan 2022-00-00.mrimg 168 GB) of my old WIN 10 system. I want to restore the WIN 10 image to my SSD D: drive, then make the Dell XPS a dual boot to WIN 11 and WIN 10.

First, Do I have to format or 'clean' the SSD D: drive, or will the restore do that?

Second, Can I run the Macrium restore by running Macrium program in WIN 11? Or do I need to use a bootable macrium rescue media?

Third, when the WIN 10 is restored, will it screw up the drivers already installed by the WIN 11 system? Or are they independent, meaning I’ll have to update the drivers when I boot to the WIN 10 system?
 
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I recently did the same thing. Just used the MR gui in WIN 11, select image to be copied, select target drive. Then I used EasyBCD (free version) to add it to my boot menu.

This process will wipe the target drive. If this Windows 10 was installed on your laptop prior to Win11 there should be no issues with the drivers.

 
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First, Do I have to format or 'clean' the SSD D: drive, or will the restore do that?
>>>Yes, you need to format the SSD

Second, Can I run the Macrium restore by running Macrium program in WIN 11? Or do I need to use a bootable macrium rescue media?
>>>Yes, you can use the Macrium on Win 11

Third, when the WIN 10 is restored, will it screw up the drivers already installed by the WIN 11 system? Or are they independent, meaning I’ll have to update the drivers when I boot to the WIN 10 system?
>>>You will probably need to install some drivers, maybe not

But more importantly, you will need to activate the Windows 10 OS using your microsoft account if you have a digital license linked to Windows 10 on your MS account.
 

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First, Do I have to format or 'clean' the SSD D: drive, or will the restore do that?
>>>Yes, you need to format the SSD

Second, Can I run the Macrium restore by running Macrium program in WIN 11? Or do I need to use a bootable macrium rescue media?
>>>Yes, you can use the Macrium on Win 11

Third, when the WIN 10 is restored, will it screw up the drivers already installed by the WIN 11 system? Or are they independent, meaning I’ll have to update the drivers when I boot to the WIN 10 system?
>>>You will probably need to install some drivers, maybe not

But more importantly, you will need to activate the Windows 10 OS using your microsoft account if you have a digital license linked to Windows 10 on your MS account.
1. No, you do not need to format the SSD, Macrium Reflect will take care of that for you.

Lastly, if the Windows 10 is the same edition as the Windows 11 on the new computer (such as Home or Pro) it will activate automatically, you will not need the digital license linked to your Microsoft account, it will use the digital license that was established for Windows 11 on that computer.

Also, you do not need to use EasyBCD to set up dual booting, a simple BCDBOOT command will do that for you.

The drivers for the Windows 11 and the Windows 10 OS's will not interfere with each other.
 

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1. No, you do not need to format the SSD, Macrium Reflect will take care of that for you.

Lastly, if the Windows 10 is the same edition as the Windows 11 on the new computer (such as Home or Pro) it will activate automatically, you will not need the digital license linked to your Microsoft account, it will use the digital license that was established for Windows 11 on that computer.

Also, you do not need to use EasyBCD to set up dual booting, a simple BCDBOOT command will do that for you.

The drivers for the Windows 11 and the Windows 10 OS's will not interfere with each other.
I think it is not about the Windows edition. The activitation will be required for the new hardware that the Windows 10 is now running on.
 

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I think it is not about the Windows edition. The activitation will be required for the new hardware that the Windows 10 is now running on.
You would be mistaken. It is entirely about whether or not the same edition of Windows 10 or 11 (Home or Pro) has been installed and activated on that computer before. I can put Windows 10 or 11 Pro on an external hard drive and it will automatically activate on any computer I boot it from so long as that computer had Windows 10 or 11 Pro activated on it before and has a digital license established.
 

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The Win 10 was from an old system with license registered to the original hardware.
And you clearly do not understand how Windows 10 and Windows 11 digital licensing works. If you move Windows 10 or 11 to a new computer, it will see that it has been moved to a new computer, it will de-activate, then it will automatically go online and contact Microsoft activation servers and send a unique Hardware ID for the new computer along with which edition of Windows 10 or 11 it is. If there is a digital license matching the new computer and the edition of Windows 10 or 11, it is returned from Microsoft to the local computer and Windows activates itself - all automatically in the background and completely transparent to the user.

As I stated before, I have a full Windows 11 Pro installed on an external USB SSD. I can plug it into any computer in my house and it just "stays" activated, although not really - it actually re-activates every time it is moved, because every computer in my house a digital license for Windows 10/11 Pro established on Microsoft activation servers - and this has NOTHING to do with any Microsoft Account.
 

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And you clearly do not understand how Windows 10 and Windows 11 digital licensing works. If you move Windows 10 or 11 to a new computer, it will see that it has been moved to a new computer, it will de-activate, then it will automatically go online and contact Microsoft activation servers and send a unique Hardware ID for the new computer along with which edition of Windows 10 or 11 it is. If there is a digital license matching the new computer and the edition of Windows 10 or 11, it is returned from Microsoft to the local computer and Windows activates itself - all automatically in the background and completely transparent to the user.
well, the way I see it, it is 2 different installation and the Windows 10 came from a different system. Yeah, I could be wrong.
But it could also be seen as the same OS on 2 different drives which makes sense that it can get activated.
The only question is if the license is OEM which cannot be transferred from one machine to another.
 

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Thank you all for giving me the confidence and know how to proceed. I’ll let you all know the outcome in a day or two, hopefully sooner than later.
 

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The only question is if the license is OEM which cannot be transferred from one machine to another.
It is not a question of if the license is OEM or not. Windows 10 and 11 will activate themselves based upon the existence of a digital license stored on Microsoft Activation Servers for the computer it is booted on. You still completely do not understand how digital licensing in Windows 10 and 11 works. Once a specific edition of Windows 10 or 11 is activated on a computer, it gets a digital license based upon only the Unique Hardware ID identifying that computer (motherboard) and the edition of Windows that was activated (Home, Pro, Education, Etc.). After that digital license is established on Microsoft Activation Servers, ANY Windows 10 or 11 of the same edition (Home, Pro, Education, Etc.) booted on that computer will activate on that computer by sending the same Unique Hardware ID and edition of Windows 10 or 11 to Microsoft Activation Servers, and the digital license that was previously stored there will be retrieved, and Windows will activate itself. This is completely 100% different behavior than Windows 7 and earlier where activation was based upon product key matching. Windows 10/11 does not match product keys. Windows 10/11 matches Unique Hardware ID + edition to a digital license stored on Microsoft Activation Servers. Once Windows 10/11 is activated on a computer, the product key (whether it be retail or OEM) becomes 100% completely irrelevant.
 

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My point is, the Windows 10 is not a clean install. It is a Macrium Restore from another machine which already has license keys tied to its original hardware. If you are saying that the original key will be replaced by Windows 11 key from a different hardware, that is what I am not sure about. If you are right, then I stand corrected.
But if it is a clean install, I totally agree it will get activated with the same edition.
 
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I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. When Windows 10/11 Pro, for example, is moved from computer A to computer B, and it is booted, it calculates a Unique Hardware ID based upon the computer it is booted on. Since computer A does not equal computer B, Windows 10/11 says to itself, "Hmmmm......this is a different computer. I wonder if there is a digital license for this new computer that I just booted on?" Then it sends the Unique Hardware ID it just calculated for computer B to Microsoft Activation Servers and it asks Microsoft, "Hey! I just booted on a new computer and here is its Unique Hardware ID. Is there a digital license stored there at Microsoft for Windows 10/11 Pro for this computer?" Microsoft replies, "Why yes, we do have a digital license for that computer for Windows 10/11 Pro here. Let's upload it to you!" Windows 10/11 receives the digital license for Windows 10/11 Pro matching computer B's Unique Hardware ID and Windows 10/11 Pro says, "Why thank you, Microsoft for that digital license! I am now going to activate myself with it!"

If there is no existing digital license for Windows 10/11 that Microsoft returns, then that Windows 10/11 is going to complain, "Hey! Mr. User...Windows 10/11 Pro has never been activated on this computer before, would you be so kind as to provide a product key that I can send to Microsoft and I promise they will create a digital license for Windows 10/11 Pro and we won't ever have this problem again on this computer." Digital licenses for Windows 10/11 do not have OEM or retail attributes assigned to them. I can change from retail to OEM and back again depending upon which generic product key I tell Windows 10 use.
 

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It is a Macrium Restore from another machine which already has license keys tied to its original hardware. If you are saying that the original key will be replaced by Windows 11 key from a different hardware, that is what I am not sure about.
When you use a key to install W10 or W11 on a PC that key is only ever used the once, to create a digital license linked to the hardware ID of the PC and stored on the Microsoft activation servers. That is the ONLY purpose of using a key.

From that point on Windows will never use that key again. Should it find itself running on new hardware (as in a Macrium restore to another PC) it asks the activation servers if this PC's hardware ID has a digital license for this edition of Windows (Home or Pro) and if it does then it activates. The digital license doesn't even care if it's W10 or W11, Microsoft call it a digital license for 'Windows 10/11' now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RTM as a native boot vhdx.

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Second, Can I run the Macrium restore by running Macrium program in WIN 11?
Yes. Click Existing backups, right-click on the image you want to restore and select Restore Image. On the next screen select your target disk and proceed.
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 22621.521
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z370-P II
    Memory
    CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (4x16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Gaming
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs PCIe Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium (dan_k drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" WQHD
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 970 EVO 1TB NVMe (x2)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 2TB SATA III (x2)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 250GB SATA III
    PSU
    CORSAIR HX Series HX750
    Case
    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H60 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 320
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 1000 Laser
    Internet Speed
    200Mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Winows Security
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0
    MR 8 HE
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 22H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-2400
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
    Memory
    16 GB DDR3
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 760
    Sound Card
    Ht Omega eCLARO
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SMT27A300
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
    Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1TB HDD
    PSU
    Corsair CX550M
    Case
    Old Antec, unknown model
    Cooling
    Hyper 212 EVO
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Security

ils

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Thank you all. I restored WIN 10 to my 500 GB SSD using the Macrium program and the image I had made previously. (I didn't have to clean or reformat the SSD; Macrium did it all.) But, to get the SSD to boot, I had to make a Macrium Rescue Disk (MRD) on a USB stick, then get the BIOS to boot on the stick first. (BIOS itself didn't recognize that the 500 GB SSD had a windows operating system.)
Once the MRD loaded, the instructions to get the MRD to make the WIN 10 SSD boot were not obvious. But with the help of a few youtube videos, I got WIN 10 to boot. It also installed the dual boot mode on the PC. Also, WIN 10 ran without asking me for any information (name, rank, serial number, etc . . .)

One observation: When I logged on to WIN 10, it had made renamed the disks: WIN 10 was disk C:, the HDD (data) was disk D:, System reserve was disk E: (578 MB) and WIN 11 was Disk F: When I logged back into WIN 11, the disk names were what I originally named them.
Question: What is the System reserve disk?

PS. My WIN 11 system has become screwed up since I had last used it (in February). I only noticed it after returning from a three week vacation. But I'll bring up the problem in a new post.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11 home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 11700 processor(8 Core, 1
    Motherboard
    Dell Studio XPS 8900 Desktop Motherboard LGA1151 XJ8C4 0XJ8C4.
    Memory
    16GB, 8Gx2, DDR4, 2933MHz 370 AGHW
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6 490 BFUK
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2
    Screen Resolution
    1920x
    Hard Drives
    256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive (WIN 11 home)
    + 1TB 7200 rpm 3.5" SATA
    + 2.5 inch 512MB Crucial SSDs (WIN 10 home)
    PSU
    500 W
    Case
    Mini Tower
    Cooling
    fan
    Keyboard
    basic Dell
    Mouse
    basic Dell
    Internet Speed
    50-100 MBps
    Browser
    firefox, chrome, edge
    Antivirus
    malwarebytes

NavyLCDR

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The System Reserved partition is what the old computer booted from in legacy BIOS (CSM) mode.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
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