Microsoft Accounts now passwordless by default - pushing passkeys



 Microsoft Security Blog:

Happy World Passkey Day!

As the world shifts from passwords to passkeys, we’re excited to join the FIDO Alliance in leaving “World Password Day” behind to celebrate the very first “World Passkey Day.” To commemorate this renaming, Microsoft and dozens of other organizations have taken the Passkey Pledge to work toward increasing the implementation and adoption of passkeys over the coming year. For Microsoft, taking the pledge continues our commitment to a future where every sign in is simple and secure.

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For detailed information on why passkeys are better than passwords, visit our website: What is a Passkey? Secure Signins | Microsoft Security

The journey toward passwordless sign-in​

Ten years ago, Microsoft had a bold idea. Instead of signing in using clumsy and insecure passwords, what if you could simply smile?

With this vision in mind, Microsoft introduced Windows Hello, a new way for users to securely sign in to their accounts with their face, fingerprint, or PIN. Windows Hello helped lay the foundation for an entirely new era of authentication.1 Today, more than 99% of people who sign into their Windows devices with their Microsoft account do so using Windows Hello.

However, as the world and our digital lives evolved, it became clear that just signing into your device without a password isn’t enough. To keep your digital life safe, you need a way to sign into any account without a password. As part of an industry-wide effort, Microsoft has collaborated closely with the FIDO Alliance, and with platform partners to develop passkeys: a standards-based phishing-resistant authentication method that replaces passwords. Now you can sign in to any supported app or website with a passkey using your face, fingerprint, or PIN. Hundreds of websites, representing billions of accounts, now support signing in with a passkey. The world is changing!

For a list of websites that support passkeys, visit Passkey Directory – FIDO Alliance.

Over the past decade, we’ve observed two important, coinciding trends: people have grown increasingly accustomed to signing into their devices without passwords, and the number of password-based cyberattacks has increased dramatically. Bad actors know that the password age is ending, and that the number of easily compromised accounts is shrinking. In response, these bad actors are devoting considerable resources to automating brute force and phishing attacks against any account still protected by a password. Last year, we observed a staggering 7,000 password attacks per second (more than double the rate from 2023).2 As passkeys become the new standard, expect increased pressure from cyberattackers on any accounts still protected by passwords or other phishable sign-in methods.

Our users love signing into their Microsoft accounts with passkeys​

Last year, we introduced passkey support for Microsoft accounts for our consumer apps and services like Xbox and Copilot, and now we see nearly a million passkeys registered every day. Because they’re not entering complex characters or one-time codes, users signing in with passkeys are three times more successful at getting into their account than password users (about 98% versus 32%). When you use a passkey, you get into your account much quicker too! Passkey sign-ins are eight times faster than a password and multifactor authentication.

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We believe that great usability and great security go hand in hand, so as we continue our transition to a passwordless world, we’re introducing some significant changes:
  1. New sign-in user experience (UX): Earlier this year, we launched a new visual style that simplifies the sign-in and sign-up experience. The new design is modernized and streamlined and prioritizes passwordless methods for sign-in and sign-up.3
  2. New accounts are passwordless by default: As part of this simplified UX, we’re changing the default behavior for new accounts. Brand new Microsoft accounts will now be “passwordless by default.” New users will have several passwordless options for signing into their account and they’ll never need to enroll a password. Existing users can visit their account settings to delete their password.
  3. Passwordless-preferred sign-in: We’re also making it simpler to sign in with safer options. Instead of showing you all the possible ways for you to sign in, we automatically detect the best available method on your account and set that as the default. For example, if you have a password and “one time code” set up on your account, we’ll prompt you to sign in with your one time code instead of your password. After you’re signed in, you’ll be prompted to enroll a passkey. Then the next time you sign in, you’ll be prompted to sign in with your passkey. This simplified experience gets you signed in faster and in our experiments has reduced password use by over 20%. As more people enroll passkeys, the number of password authentications will continue to decline until we can eventually remove password support altogether.
Although passwords have been around for centuries, we hope their reign over our online world is ending. Billions of times a day, people all over the world sign into their accounts. According to the FIDO Alliance, more than 15 billion user accounts can now sign in using passkeys instead of passwords. But we need billions more to make every sign-in passwordless. So, to observe World Passkey Day, take the leap. Start by securing at least one of your accounts—ideally as many as you can—with a passkey. Protect your digital life from unauthorized access and make signing in faster, easier, and most importantly, more secure.

To create a passkey for signing into your Microsoft account, visit here. If you’re using Windows, you can also learn how to save and manage passkeys here: Save a passkey in Windows – Microsoft Support

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By trying to figure this out I came close to locking myself out of my Amazon and Google accounts. After setting up my Amazon account yesterday I found that I could have the passkey saved to my Dashlane account. Luckily I figured out how to do it before I did any major damage. Then I wanted to try setting up my Google account with a passkey. That went good. I just needed to choose to sign-in the same way I do to my MS account. I also got the popup so I could save the key to Dashlane. Today I tried logging in to my Google account on my other desktop. The Dashlane box came up only to find that the computer wasn't signed in. Before I could enter my pass word the box closed and Googlewanted me to scan the barcode with my phone. I couldn't because I didn't have the MS app installed. One of the links I clicked on was going to reset my password. That would have taken up to 48hrs to do. I was able to cancel it and have the code sent to my email. What I want to do is to have all the passkeys saved to my Dashlane account so that I can have access from all of my computers. I did install the MS app just in case I do have to use it. I read a MS how-to and it seems to be easy to set it up If I have to.
 

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I still don't get it!
Seems like a whole lot of unnecessary hullabaloo to me!
You guys must have a higher necessity for security than I do! 🤷‍♂️
 

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Tried several times , still not possible to boot in 24H2 in 20 seconds , without pass/pin.
It is possible , then your boottime goes from 20 sec. ( with pin) , to 65 sec. ( without pin).............
Could not find a working solution stil...........
 

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I still don't get it!
Seems like a whole lot of unnecessary hullabaloo to me!
You guys must have a higher necessity for security than I do! 🤷‍♂️
I'm only doing it to better understand how to use it. I want to be ready in case any of my online accounts forces me to use it.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
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    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    Windows Defender
I'm only doing it to better understand how to use it. I want to be ready in case any of my online accounts forces me to use it.
Exactly. With the push for passkeys, I really do wonder how the great unwashed masses are going to navigate the choppy waters unless things get a lot simpler to setup. :unsure:

Can computer savvy folks figure it out? Of course they can, but a vast majority of the population views the computer as an appliance, they have no knowledge of the hidden complexity, and they have no desire to learn.
 

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    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
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    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
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    Firefox
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    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
By trying to figure this out I came close to locking myself out of my Amazon and Google accounts......
I'm not goin through all that crap! :facepalm:
I'm only doing it to better understand how to use it. I want to be ready in case any of my online accounts forces me to use it.
I don't use an MS account, and, the 3 measly web credentials I use on a daily basis, are memorized. 🤷‍♂️
 

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    Windows 11
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I'm not goin through all that crap! :facepalm:

I don't use an MS account, and, the 3 measly web credentials I use on a daily basis, are memorized. 🤷‍♂️
I do almost all of my bill paying online. Things such as our utility bills are automatically withdrawn from our checking account. For our credit card bills, water bill and house taxes I log-in and pay online. I only have one bill that I pay by check and that's down to two more payments.
 

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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
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    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
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    Logitek M185
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    Logitek K270
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    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
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    Windows Defender
It's hard for me to imagine having only three web credentials. :unsure:
 

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    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
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    64GB DDR4
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    GeForce RTX 4060
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    Chipset Realtek
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    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
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    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
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    Lots of fans!
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
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    Logitech G305
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    Verizon FiOS 1GB
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    Firefox
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    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
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    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
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    Realtek Embedded
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    27" HP 1080p
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    Okinos Micro ATX Case
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
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    Verizon FiOS 1GB
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    Firefox
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    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
It's hard for me to imagine having only three web credentials. :unsure:
I never counted how many sites I have to use passwords to be able to log-in. I do know that just for our bills I have more than 20.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
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    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
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    ESET Internet Security
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    PowerSpec G156
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    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
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    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
It's hard for me to imagine having only three web credentials. :unsure:
Oh..., I have hundreds of credentials! I only use about three on a daily basis.
 

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    Windows 11
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    ASUS ROG Strix
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    Windows 11
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    ASUS VivoBook
I'm in an awkward position. Eventually I can use a phone again, but I sometimes just like to not drag my phone with me and I also have an issue where by battery is suddenly rapidly declining in capacity. It's just old and worn out, trying to nurse it along until the next gen of phones come out :-).

I always have multiple alternative authentication methods, so I have no worry there. It is simply that when choosing the option to go passwordless, it insists on having you install Microsoft Authenticator with no option to use a different authenticator app for the initial setup.

BTW, I just performed a clean install of 26100.3915 and created a brand-new Microsoft account. There was absolutely no push or any effort at all to any to get me to go passwordless.
For the last two years, I had have phone issues one way or another. My Android phone, the battery died so had to get a replacement except the Samsung Note 8 has this bug where it needs a minimum charge before the phone will even have life to recognize the battery and charge it so I had to directly wire from USB to the new battery directly and held two wires for I think 30+ minutes just to charge the battery, it worked for 3 weeks and the battery was swollen so ordered a new battery and had to do the same thing but this time, the phone would be stuck on the OS post screen so tried to dirty flash it except the phone hanged and the battery discharged so need to look at that when I have some time.

Then the next issue is with a Apple iPhone 6S Plus which had less battery time each time I charged it until November 19, 2024 when it will only show the red bar to connect the charger and ofcourse the battery no longer can charge so the phone will not turn on because the capacity is at 0% but it recognizes the battery so until I find a new quality battery which Apple Executive Support has not been able to find yet, I will have to fix it myself and not kill the Touch sensor like a lot of people did including Apple when people had them replace the battery. My issue with Android is being in the US, there are no rootable phones available that works well on Verizon since I need root to backup the data as Android unlike Apple only backs up apps but not the data for the apps.

The issue is some places like NVidia does not have multiple alternative authentication methods and is 2FA only until one figures out how to do the 2FA first to turn the 2FA off and go back to email verification. I didn't realize there were apps like WinAuth available until a month ago so basically didn't login to nvidia for the last 5 months until a few weeks ago. LOL.

As for the passkey thing, I was trying to use Yahoo! Mail with passkey. On one account, it worked fine but that was months ago and didn't need a phone. Tried it on a second account and the passkey can't get enabled without a phone. I had never used Microsoft Authenticator but used Authy before which did have a desktop version but ofcourse the problem with that is I had multi-device login enabled with Authy and somehow Authy turned it off so I can't even get into my Authy account. Authy has the standard 2FA and then there is something from places like Gemini crypto exchange that has some feature in Authy that is not the standard 2FA that is not available outside of Authy, not sure what that is called. I guess what I am concerned more about is the security works so well that the user can't get in.... And I guess it would be different if I had multiple computers or multiple mobile devices but I don't.
 

My Computer

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    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
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    Laptop
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    64GB using 2x32GB CL16 Mushkin redLine modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1TB SSD
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Stock
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    Stock
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    SwitftPoint ProPoint
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    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
As for the passkey thing, I was trying to use Yahoo! Mail with passkey. On one account, it worked fine but that was months ago and didn't need a phone. Tried it on a second account and the passkey can't get enabled without a phone. I had never used Microsoft Authenticator but used Authy before which did have a desktop version but ofcourse the problem with that is I had multi-device login enabled with Authy and somehow Authy turned it off so I can't even get into my Authy account. Authy has the standard 2FA and then there is something from places like Gemini crypto exchange that has some feature in Authy that is not the standard 2FA that is not available outside of Authy, not sure what that is called. I guess what I am concerned more about is the security works so well that the user can't get in.... And I guess it would be different if I had multiple computers or multiple mobile devices but I don't.
Bingo! For someone with multiple computers, computer savvy, a mobile phone, etc. this is less daunting. However, as you correctly point out, that's not the situation for a majority of computer users. I have to beat the drum with most of my friends just to have backup, never mind making their life complicated with new login requirements.
 

My Computers

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 Nvme PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
Microsoft is pushing passkeys for Microsoft accounts. I can’t see other sites forcing this, however many do offer you to use passkeys.
2FA one time passwords will remain fine.

And as far as I know, I don’t believe Microsoft is removing its 2FA one time passwords, it’s just encouraging Passkeys.

I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it I suppose.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    5120x1440, 1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
    Silicon Power 2TB US75 Nvme PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 SSD (backup)
    Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND (2nd backup)
    External off-line backup Drives: 2 NVMe 4TB drives in external enclosures
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
    Case
    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
    Cooling
    Lots of fans!
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.3915, Experience Pack 1000.26100.83.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
pk.webp 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
And as far as I know, I don’t believe Microsoft is removing its 2FA one time passwords, it’s just encouraging Passkeys.
As more people enroll passkeys, the number of password authentications will continue to decline until we can eventually remove password support altogether.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
As more people enroll passkeys


lol months, years, decades? I’m not holding my breath for this to be a natural occurrence or user choice.
They say “As more people” What they really mean is, when they force passkeys.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
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