More hard drive strangeness


RAMWolff

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So after all the help I got here I ended up in the endless loop of testing and finally realized it was a bit too much as all the tests were coming back with good results. No issues, no viruses, no nothing wrong with any of my drives. I think during all this (past thread here in this forum) I must have either enabled or installed something that's backing up or doing something.

What happens is when my system is idle then one of the drives begins to do something like allot of files are being copied or something. I can't really pinpoint what's going on as when I even touch my mouse it ceases so even running a resource monitor I can't see what's going on as it's not on the C drive and this monitor I got my hands on only seems to be set up to look at the C drive so that's no help.

So what I really need is not more tests or advice like that but a link to a resource monitor that I can have running on the desktop that might be able to pinpoint what drive it's coming from and what exactly is enabled when the system is idle.

Thanks so much
Richard
 

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So after all the help I got here I ended up in the endless loop of testing and finally realized it was a bit too much as all the tests were coming back with good results. No issues, no viruses, no nothing wrong with any of my drives. I think during all this (past thread here in this forum) I must have either enabled or installed something that's backing up or doing something.

What happens is when my system is idle then one of the drives begins to do something like allot of files are being copied or something. I can't really pinpoint what's going on as when I even touch my mouse it ceases so even running a resource monitor I can't see what's going on as it's not on the C drive and this monitor I got my hands on only seems to be set up to look at the C drive so that's no help.

So what I really need is not more tests or advice like that but a link to a resource monitor that I can have running on the desktop that might be able to pinpoint what drive it's coming from and what exactly is enabled when the system is idle.

Thanks so much
Richard
Do you have a media server running? Like Plex or similar?
 

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I've been thinking on this. If you suspect some program doing something in the background is the cause, then try a clean boot. That's what it is designed for. Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts Tutorial

If everything is good in clean boot, it's a process of elimination by enabling background programs a few at a time until you narrow it down to the culprit.
 

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3 very real possibilities:

1) Windows native indexing feature, which is, by default, set to index files on your system when it is not in use. Most of the time Windows is good about stopping as soon as you start using the drive, but it may take a minute before the activity completes - basically, it needs to get t o a 'stopping point' before it can actually stop;

2) Windows Defender / some other AV suite, which is set to scan every single file on every single drive, again while the system is not in use. Most AV programs, including Defender, are also good at curbing their activities once the machine is in use again, but , as before, sometimes it may take a little while before all activity stops - again, for the same reason too, it needs to finish what it is doing, and get to a stopping point;

3) As you noted, it may be some sort of backup process that you've set up that works in the background - whether said backup is a system backup, a file backup, a volume shadow creation / update, or even something like File History. All of these technically can be done in the background also when the computer is in use, but it tends to be less intrusive if they wait for when the computer is not in use (aka when it is idle).

I would check for any of these first and foremost - a good trick might be to (temporarily):

Set your monitor to not go to standby (sleep)
Set your computer not to go into standby (sleep) / hibernation
Open a task manager screen on your monitor, full screen, click on the Disk usage column, and then don't use your computer at all - and see what pops up that is actually using the disk(s).
 

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