Is it just me, or has this increased? I recently purchased one of those HGST Helium filled hard drives for storage and after formatting it went from 10TB to 9.09TB. I backed up a bunch of data to it and it red lined with nearly 1TB of head room to spare. Now I know you always lose a little capacity when you format a drive for Windows but I don't recall it being so much. Plus 'red lining' with 872 GB of space left on the drive seems a little over the top IMO. Am I missing something here, or am I just going senile.
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Okay, that explains it. I was just panicking. It's just that at the 10TB level it seems a little excessive. Still, with 872 GB to spare getting a red line warning strikes me as being a bit premature.
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Okay, that explains it. I was just panicking. It's just that at the 10TB level it seems a little excessive. Still, with 872 GB to spare getting a red line warning strikes me as being a bit premature.
@Scannerman if you convert your total drive capacity of 9.09 TB TO GB it should be 9090 GB, furthermore a drive red line warning appears when you have less than 15% of that capacity and 15% of 9090 GB would mean you need at least 1363.5 GB free space to avoid the red line warning thus you only have 872 GB free space which is why you see the red line warning.
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@Scannerman if you convert your total drive capacity of 9.09 TB TO GB it should be 9090 GB, furthermore a drive red line warning appears when you have less than 15% of that capacity and 15% of 9090 GB would mean you need at least 1363.5 GB free space to avoid the red line warning thus you only have 872 GB free space which is why you see the red line warning.
Yeah, it makes sense to me now. Thank you. Silliest thing is that I already knew this, but I just didn't bother to sit down and make the calculations. This is my first year for buying hard drives 10TB in size and larger and it didn't seem quite right. Normally I hate huge drives and would rather have an array of drives adding up to 10TB than a single drive that size because if the drive fails that's a huge capacity and expense to replace. With a good array you just pop in another smaller, less expensive drive and let it rewrite itself back to normal. Unfortunately, there are case scenarios where one actually needs a considerable amount of capacity on a single hard drive and I just ran into that scenario this year. I also have a 12TB EXOS drive now (which of course had a good size Windows reduction) and one more HGST 10TB coming in. At some point I'm hoping to RAID the two HGST drives, but not yet as I have a ton of data to clean up first.
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128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
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NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
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Crystal Sound (onboard)
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single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
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4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
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A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W
Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.
Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.
INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
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ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
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Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
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Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I haven't even done my Win 7 side yet and already the drives are filling up fast. Once I'm done with all the sifting, sorting, and organizing there shouldn't be any red bars left, but I wonder how many spare drives I'm going to be able to pull out of this crate by the time I'm done.
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Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
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Memory
128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
Sound Card
Crystal Sound (onboard)
Monitor(s) Displays
single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
Screen Resolution
4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
Hard Drives
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W
Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.
Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.
INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
PSU
SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
Case
ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
Cooling
Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
Keyboard
all kinds.
Mouse
all kinds
Internet Speed
360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
Browser
FIREFOX
Antivirus
KASPERSKY (no apologies)
Other Info
Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.