Need to add a Hello PIN for computer that has never had one


Judy in Texas

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Windows 11 Home, 21H2 Surface 7.

I use this laptop for travel and we have not traveled for awhile. when I bought it several years ago used, on eBay, it did not have a PIN and until now I haven't added one.

I got it out, charged it up, and wanted to run updates. Then on the login screen I used to just press enter when it asks for PIN and I was in. This does not work any more.

How do I get past the login screen so I can add a PIN, add passcodes and such as I have already done on my desktop. and get it ready to travel?

All of the instructions I have found start with having bypassed the login screen., a lovely picture of what I think may be Crater Lake.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface 7
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z G9
    CPU
    Intel
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard thingy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Then, this…

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built 2013
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard thingy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Touch Screen Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / Mx Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    2000/500Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
    TP-Link BE9300 WiFi 7 Bluetooth 5.4 (Archer TBE550E)
    TP-Link TX201 V1 2.5GB Lan

    Grandstream HT812 - VoIP
    ASUS DSL-AX82U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-AC68U - Mesh
    ASUS RT-BE88U Router

    Brother MFC-L2880DW Printer

    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 25H2 Build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7 14IRL8 - 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Are you logging in with your Microsoft Account (Email as your user name)?
Or a Local Account? Where you make up your own user name and password?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Insider 64 bit 25H2 26200.5742
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 9700K 3.60
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GEForce RTX 2060 Super
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Two 27" Dell 4K monitors
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    M.2 NVME SSD, 500 GB; Two 2TB Mechanical HDD's
    PSU
    850w PSU
    Case
    Cyberpower PC
    Cooling
    Water cooled
    Keyboard
    Backlit Cyberpower gaming keyboard
    Mouse
    Backlit Cyberpower gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    1 GB mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
I can't get past the lock screen. I believe I have to do this to follow any of the instructions you are sending. I cannot see my account on this computer.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface 7
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z G9
    CPU
    Intel
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia
Assuming no accounts are visible: You could try enambling the hidden administrator account:
Enable or Disable Built-in Administrator Account in Windows 11

That would allow you to set a password for your normal account, if you can find it, or at least create a new account. Once that is successful, you could turn on 'passwordless sign-in' again.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brew
    CPU
    Ryzen3-2200G
    Motherboard
    GA-A320M-S2H
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston HyperX DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG W2246
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel 760p 256GB NVMe M.2
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1TB
    Gash Seagate ST31608
    PSU
    2006-vintage no-name
    Case
    Acer Aspire 2006
    Cooling
    Air (fan-assist)
    Keyboard
    HP SK-2885
    Mouse
    wireless
    Internet Speed
    32 mbps
    Browser
    FF latest
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
  • Operating System
    W10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 255 G8
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3500U
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    on-board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 512GB Nvme
    Browser
    FF + Edge
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
If your user profle has disappeared, its usually saved in the registry with a bak. extension.

This method is for cases where your user profile folder (C:\Users\YourName) still exists, but Windows can’t load it, logging you into a temporary profile instead. This usually happens because the registry key pointing to your profile is corrupted. Windows often renames the corrupted key with a .bak extension. By carefully editing the registry, you can point Windows back to your original profile.

Warning: The Registry Editor is a powerful tool. Making incorrect changes can cause serious system instability. Follow these steps exactly as written.

1. Press Win + X and select Terminal (Admin) or Windows PowerShell (Admin).

2. In the terminal, type whoami /user and press Enter. Take note of the long string of characters (your SID, or Security Identifier) that appears. You’ll need it in a moment.

3. Press Win + R, type regedit into the box, and hit Enter to open the Registry Editor.

4. Navigate to this specific key in the left-hand pane: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList

5. Under ProfileList, you’ll see several folders named with SIDs. Look for the SID that matches the one you noted earlier. You will likely find two versions: one with a .bak at the end, and one without.

* The key without .bak is the temporary profile you’re currently logged into.

* The key with .bak is your original, correct profile.

6. You need to swap them. First, right-click the key without .bak and rename it by adding .tmp to the end. Next, right-click the key with .bak and rename it by removing the .bak extension.

7. Now, select the corrected key (the one you just removed .bak from). In the right-hand pane, find and double-click the ProfileImagePath value. Make sure it points to your correct user folder (e.g., C:\Users\YourName). If not, correct it.

8. In the same key, double-click the State value and change its data to 0. Click OK.

9. Close the Registry Editor and restart your computer.

When you log back in, Windows should now load your original user profile. This method is highly effective when the profile data itself was never deleted, just disconnected.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Education For 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ZBook G2
    CPU
    Intel® Core i7 5500u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Family Graphics 5500 AMD Firepro 4150M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Audio
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro For Workstations 25H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Zbook G4
    CPU
    Xeon 1535m v6
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Quadro Pro 4100
    Sound Card
    Bang and Olufson Audio
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Mouse
    HP USB Mouse
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Are you basically saying that Windows or its update has set a password on its own and you don’t know what that password is ? I have never heard of anything like this before. That is interesting.

I will follow this thread to learn how that is possible..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro build 26200.8524
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-4790
    Motherboard
    Asus H97 Pro Gamer with add-on TPM1.2 module
    Memory
    Teams DDR3-1600 4x4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1150
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell P2425D
    Screen Resolution
    2560 by 1440 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Corsair NVMe M.2 Core XT 1000 GB (Windows 11 v.25H2); Samsung SATA Evo 870 500 GB (Windows 11 v.25H2);
    PSU
    Corsair HX850
    Case
    Gigabyte Solo 210
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS7X Tower
    Keyboard
    Microsoft AIO Wireless (includes touchpad)
    Mouse
    HP S1000 Plus Wireless
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb fiber optic
    Browser
    Chrome; MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    MacOS 12 Monterey
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple Macbook Air
    CPU
    Intel Core i5
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel integrated
    Screen Resolution
    1440 by 900 pixels
    Hard Drives
    128 GB
    Keyboard
    Built-in
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless
    Internet Speed
    802.11 ac
    Browser
    Chrome; Safari
    Antivirus
    N/A
How do I get past the lock screen?

We are heading out on our trip and will take another computer.

I won't be in touch on this forum for a while and I thank all of you very much. I dimly remember that if I click the other option on the lock screen (not PIN) I can do something, and I'll look in to that when we get back.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface 7
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z G9
    CPU
    Intel
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia
I can't get past the lock screen. I believe I have to do this to follow any of the instructions you are sending. I cannot see my account on this computer.
You said you could get passed the Lock screen and were able login? Whatever method you used to login should be your User account that you are logged into.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Insider 64 bit 25H2 26200.5742
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 9700K 3.60
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z390 UD
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GEForce RTX 2060 Super
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Two 27" Dell 4K monitors
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    M.2 NVME SSD, 500 GB; Two 2TB Mechanical HDD's
    PSU
    850w PSU
    Case
    Cyberpower PC
    Cooling
    Water cooled
    Keyboard
    Backlit Cyberpower gaming keyboard
    Mouse
    Backlit Cyberpower gaming mouse
    Internet Speed
    1 GB mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
I never had this question understood. I had never had a PIN on this computer and was unable to get past the lock screen. For some reason commenters continued to believe that I had gotten past the lock screen. I think my problem was compounded by an error I read about in the windows update that was current at the time. I have had two updates since, and today the instructions I had found on a year-old reddit post worked. I have a PIN! If this thread still needs to be closed I will do so. Thank you to all of you.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Tablet
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface 7
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z G9
    CPU
    Intel
    Memory
    32G
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia
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