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Hello All,

I am a win7 user. I just bought a new laptop with win11 64-bit home. I have not
even turned it on yet because I am trying to figure what my MS user account
options are. I want to be able to:

1- Start the computer and not have to enter PW or other MS account info.
2- Have the ability to use the computer when NOT CONNECTED to the internet.

I've read in places about initially activating win11 using your MS account then
make a local account and use that. But would this cause issues with MS Store
or other issues? I do have a MS account because I also have an Xbox Series-S.
I'm just trying to reduce MS snooping and of course use machine offline.

If any of you die hard win11 users can offer me some direction on accomplishing
this I would be most grateful.

Secondly, if I may, way back in win7 days it was suggested to install programs
outside of the c:/ProgramFiles directory...something to do with how win7 protects
software installed in there. So what I've done since win7 inception
is made 2 sub-directories of the root of the system partition c:/Win7 like
this:
c:/Win7
|Inet
|Winprogs

I install all internet type programs into the c:/Inet directory and all other
programs into the c:/Winprogs directoy. Of course some programs I just let
them install to their default folders. So would this be acceptable for win11
64-bit. I do like installing software with this method. What ya think?

Thanks for reading and any advice......
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
Jett said:
Hello All,

I am a win7 user. I just bought a new laptop with win11 64-bit home. I have not
even turned it on yet because I am trying to figure what my MS user account
options are. I want to be able to:

1- Start the computer and not have to enter PW or other MS account info.
2- Have the ability to use the computer when NOT CONNECTED to the internet.

I've read in places about initially activating win11 using your MS account then
make a local account and use that. But would this cause issues with MS Store
or other issues? I do have a MS account because I also have an Xbox Series-S.
I'm just trying to reduce MS snooping and of course use machine offline.

If any of you die hard win11 users can offer me some direction on accomplishing
this I would be most grateful.

Secondly, if I may, way back in win7 days it was suggested to install programs
outside of the c:/ProgramFiles directory...something to do with how win7 protects
software installed in there. So what I've done since win7 inception
is made 2 sub-directories of the root of the system partition c:/Win7 like
this:
c:/Win7
|Inet
|Winprogs

I install all internet type programs into the c:/Inet directory and all other
programs into the c:/Winprogs directoy. Of course some programs I just let
them install to their default folders. So would this be acceptable for win11
64-bit. I do like installing software with this method. What ya think?

Thanks for reading and any advice......
Click to expand...
Hi & welcome to the forum,

I will only address the storage location of your programs:

Choosing a dedicated area to store your programs is half way there; you need to set those up in a separate partition (or even better on a dedicated drive) to really make it worth it. Not selecting the same drive as the OS is the way to go IMO.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF Gaming FX705GM
    CPU
    2.20 gigahertz Intel i7-8750H Hyper-threaded 12 cores
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. FX705GM 1.0
    Memory
    24428 Megabytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Integrated Monitor (17.3"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    FHD 1920X1080 16:9
    Hard Drives
    2 SSD SATA/NVM Express 1.3
    WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 500.1 GB
    WDCSDAPNUW-1002 256 GB
    PSU
    19V DC 6.32 A 120 W
    Cooling
    Dual Fans
    Mouse
    MS Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    Fiber 1GB Cox -us & 400MB Orange-fr
    Browser
    Edge Canary- Firefox Nightly-Chrome Dev
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    VMs of Windows 11 stable/Beta/Dev/Canary
    VM of XeroLinux- Arch based & Debian 12
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Insider Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS X751BP
    CPU
    AMD Dual Core A6-9220
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R5 M420
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3
    Screen Resolution
    1600X900 16:9
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400RPM
Hi, welcome, Jett 🙏

Jett said:
1- Start the computer and not have to enter PW or other MS account info.
Click to expand...

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Jett said:
2- Have the ability to use the computer when NOT CONNECTED to the internet.
Click to expand...

  • Open Windows Settings> Network & internet on the left, and click on Advanced network settings on the right
  • Click on Enable or Disable for the network adapters you want to stop/start


Win-1381.png


To create a shortcut to this so you don't have to click click click

  • Right-click on your desktop and select New > Shortcut.
  • In the location field, type or paste the following:
(Click on to copy to clipboard) ms-settings:network-advancedsettings
  • Click Next, then name your shortcut something like Advanced Network Settings or Disable Internet
  • Click Finish.
Double-clicking this should take you directly to the Advanced Network Settings.



Jett said:
I've read in places about initially activating win11 using your MS account then
make a local account and use that.
Click to expand...

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Jett said:
But would this cause issues with MS Store
or other issues?
Click to expand...

That I am not 100% sure about. Signing in to Windows and signing in to Microsoft store may very well be two different things. I'll let someone else answer that. (Answered in Post No. 5)


Jett said:
Secondly, if I may, way back in win7 days it was suggested to install programs
outside of the c:/ProgramFiles directory...something to do with how win7 protects
software installed in there. So what I've done since win7 inception
is made 2 sub-directories of the root of the system partition c:/Win7 like
this:
c:/Win7
|Inet
|Winprogs
Click to expand...

Jett said:
I install all internet type programs into the c:/Inet directory and all other
programs into the c:/Winprogs directoy. Of course some programs I just let
them install to their default folders. So would this be acceptable for win11
64-bit. I do like installing software with this method. What ya think?
Click to expand...

Not sure why any of that is at all necessary.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
I wouldn't worry to much because I'll bet your laptop has a factory recovery option to take it all back to out of the box state... its worth you looking into that.

Fwiw every time I have clean installed W11 (and I mean a real clean install) creating a local account has never been an issue because there has always been an option to get past that account stage.

Look for 'I have no internet' or enter something incomprehensible and look for a tiny option somewhere to skip past that point. Unless things have radically changed, and they might of course, then it was as I say never an issue.

Having been a fan of local accounts since forever, the last year or two has seen me abandon that and I do use my MS account now when setting up a new install. It brings so many benefits and you still have control over it all anyway.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
Jett said:
But would this cause issues with MS Store
or other issues?
Click to expand...

I can answer that one... no issues with the store that I found other than it asking you to sign in using your MS account (sign in to the store) as a one off each time.

Again... think seriously about using your MS account. I resisted and resisted for years and wish I hadn't tbh. Setting up a new PC is a doddle when all your settings and internet favourites and so on are re-applied automatically... if you want... it does ask. You do have control.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro x64 24H2 Dev
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 7760 Mobile Precision 17"
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Unknown
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Hard Drives
    2 x 256Gb SSD
    PSU
    Dell 240 watt
    Mouse
    Dell Premier Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    50Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Default Microsoft Security
OAT said:
Hi & welcome to the forum,

I will only address the storage location of your programs:

Choosing a dedicated area to store your programs is half way there; you need to set those up in a separate partition (or even better on a dedicated drive) to really make it worth it. Not selecting the same drive as the OS is the way to go IMO.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the info OAT. I have entered your method into considerations
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
antspants said:
Hi, welcome, Jett 🙏



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That I am not 100% sure about. Signing in to Windows and signing in to Microsoft store may very well be two different things. I'll let someone else answer that.






Not sure why any of that is at all necessary.
Click to expand...

antspants, thank you so much. I will follow up with the info you posted. Airplane Mode, haha, so quick and simple! I like it.​

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
Mooly said:
I wouldn't worry to much because I'll bet your laptop has a factory recovery option to take it all back to out of the box state... its worth you looking into that.

Fwiw every time I have clean installed W11 (and I mean a real clean install) creating a local account has never been an issue because there has always been an option to get past that account stage.

Look for 'I have no internet' or enter something incompressible and look for a tiny option somewhere to skip past that point. Unless things have radically changed, and they might of course, then it was as I say never an issue.

Having been a fan of local accounts since forever, the last year or two has seen me abandon that and I do use my MS account now when setting up a new install. It brings so many benefits and you still have control over it all anyway.
Click to expand...
Yes Mooly it has a recovery partition. I watched some YT videos about bypassing but depending on the version of win11 sometimes those things to look for that you mentioned are no longer there.
Thank you VM.

​

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
I suggest you create a large partition at the end of the drive for data only (leaving 80G for Windows and programs).
This way, if necessary, you can do a clean install on the Windows and programs an Recovery partition without loosing your data (although backup on an external drive is always mandatory).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 11 Pro - Lubuntu
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    custom build
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4400MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Win 11
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    (4) -1 BX500 SSD - 128G for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
  • Operating System
    Windows 7 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Q550LF
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800- 3000MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs
    & 1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    350 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
Jett said:

antspants, thank you so much. I will follow up with the info you posted. Airplane Mode, haha, so quick and simple! I like it.​

Click to expand...

Unfortunately (I have just discovered) Airplane mode wont stop Ethernet

I have updated my first post to add better instructions to disable the internet

I have also added instructions to create a desktop shortcut to take you straight to the page where you can enable/disable the internet for both Wireless and Ethernet. Easy as.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Megahertz said:
I suggest you create a large partition at the end of the drive for data only (leaving 80G for Windows and programs).
This way, if necessary, you can do a clean install on the Windows and programs an Recovery partition without loosing your data (although backup on an external drive is always mandatory).
Click to expand...
Thank you MHz. Your info will help me greatly when I consider what I shall do.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
antspants said:
I have updated my first post to add better instructions to disable the internet

I have also added instructions to create a desktop shortcut to take you straight to the page where you can enable./disable the internet for both Wireless and Ethernet.
Click to expand...
OMG.....Thats super! I'll be printing all this out later and reviewing it. Maybe tonight I'll fire it up.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2(for now)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF 17 FA707NU
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050
    Sound Card
    Dolby Atmos
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3-inch FHD
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
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