Norton Ghost v15.0 is running on Windows 11

Just found this and did a successful backup. This is a 30 day trial.

Badger said:

Just found this and did a successful backup. This is a 30 day trial.

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I would not touch this with a bargepole.

It was discontinued in 2013 and is full of bugs for UEFI pcs.

It was supersed by a Symantec product which was annual lease (iirc) and never that good anyway.

cereberus said:

I would not touch this with a bargepole.

It was discontinued in 2013 and is full of bugs for UEFI pcs.

It was supersed by a Symantec product which was annual lease (iirc) and never that good anyway.

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I just thought it was pretty cool that it was running on Win 11.

Badger said:

I just thought it was pretty cool that it was running on Win 11.

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How about (also works) the IBM old Mainframe emulator IBM/MVS OS -- amazing that you can get an OS which ran on the old "Big Blue" (IBM) mainframe machines. (Hercules Emulator with IBM MVS 3.8J).


If you guys ever wanted to see what a mainframe OS was like then this is a good starting point - many of the concepts are still valid today. E,G virtual memory, paging.

One thing you will have trouble with though is the awful "JCL" or job control language you had to put together to get batch jobs (or background jobs to run) -- no easy "Batch scripts" like on modern PC's.

Have fun though -- runs both on Linux and Windows (inc Win 11).

I warn you in advance --It's horribly addictive. I can imagine some "Old School Sys Progs" messing around with this.

Cheers
jimbo

Norton Ghost still lives on! That part of the business was sold to Veritas. It was renamed to "Veritas System Recovery", but has changed very little from the Symantec days.

Having a hell of a time trying to make a bootable recovery USB stick for it though!

Is that still around? I thought it gave up the...

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Badger said:

Having a hell of a time trying to make a bootable recovery USB stick for it though!

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That does not surprise me.

Badger said:

I just thought it was pretty cool that it was running on Win 11.

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Backing up is not the issue - it is whether you can restore it. NG just fell over big time on UEFI pcs.

hsehestedt said:

Norton Ghost still lives on! That part of the business was sold to Veritas. It was renamed to "Veritas System Recovery", but has changed very little from the Symantec days.

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I looked on web and all posts date back to 2013 - I could not find anything recent.

Norton Ghost should remain in the annals of history along with 8 track cartridges, betamax, carburettors, Kevin Keegan haircuts etc.

Well for sake of nostalgia, I tried it in a vm, and I had forgotten how far back in time this was.

You had to create a boot cd from an iso you downloaded. Ok I can boot from an iso in Hyper-V but no idea where to get the iso anymore.

The installer still refers to Symantec.

Just going out on my car and getting up to 88 mph to get back to today.

cereberus said:

Backing up is not the issue - it is whether you can restore it. NG just fell over big time on UEFI pcs.

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Both backup and restore worked here. I have a rescue usb stick here but on the boot the graphics are screwed up and the restore window is very small. Well it was a fun exercise here for a few hours to see if I could get it going.

Badger said:

Both backup and restore worked here. I have a rescue usb stick here but on the boot the graphics are screwed up and the restore window is very small. Well it was a fun exercise here for a few hours to see if I could get it going.

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And to think, this was the "bees knees" back in Bedrock days LOL.

cereberus said:

Well for sake of nostalgia, I tried it in a vm, and I had forgotten how far back in time this was.

You had to create a boot cd from an iso you downloaded. Ok I can boot from an iso in Hyper-V but no idea where to get the iso anymore.

The installer still refers to Symantec.

Just going out on my car and getting up to 88 mph to get back to today.

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I actually still maintain a single user license for this because it's dirt cheap and just to see if they ever do anything interesting with it.

Badger said:

Both backup and restore worked here. I have a rescue usb stick here but on the boot the graphics are screwed up and the restore window is very small. Well it was a fun exercise here for a few hours to see if I could get it going.

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Yep, the recovery media cannot handle high DPI displays. It's an issue that I have been reporting to them for YEARS. I actually got a real technical support case open with then, probably over a year ago, that is still open and unresolved. I get a monthly status update. Yipee.

hsehestedt said:

Yep, the recovery media cannot handle high DPI displays. It's an issue that I have been reporting to them for YEARS. I actually got a real technical support case open with then, probably over a year ago, that is still open and unresolved. I get a monthly status update. Yipee.

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Have you tried making your own? Ther is probably a way to get in running in win10/11 pe.

Badger said:

Just found this and did a successful backup. This is a 30 day trial.

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yes,
Ghost works.

I am ghost user. it can clone OS and data partitions except boot sector. my 1st ghost was Ghost 2003. its last discontinued copy was ghost 11.5. I am NOT so sure the v15 you mentioned.

Fortunately, 64-bit boot sector exchangeable. i.e. if Windows 7/10/11 conversion, no need to do any thing on boot sector. just close OS, that's all. I did Windows 7 64x upgrade to Windows 11 this way. ghost Windows 11 OS image to blow off existing Windows 7. no any problems.

But for new PC install from scratch, have to go install step-by-step as the ghost wouldn't work on boot sector. if only ghost OS without boot sector, the PC wouldn't boot at all.

SIW2 said:

Have you tried making your own? Ther is probably a way to get in running in win10/11 pe.

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This is with my own recovery disk already. It cannot be made to work on SOME systems. Let me explain....

When Win PE or Win RE is run a system with a UEFI BIOS, it runs in native screen resolution. As an example, my HP laptop has a 15-inch 4K display. As a result, the recovery media will run in 4K display mode and the Veritas System Recovery boot disk will not display properly at that resolution. Unfortunately, in UEFI mode, there is NO WAY to run at anything other than native screen resolution. It cannot be done.

However, if the UEFI BIOS has a CSM (Compatibility Support Module), you can enable this. That will allow the recovery disk to run at a lower resolution, which solves the problem.

The problem is that some systems which ship with Win 11 now eliminate the CSM option altogether since Win 11 requires UEFI BIOS. There is no workaround on those systems.

There were a number of programs that had this problem, in fact, even earlier versions of Windows 10 had this problem when setup was run, or a recovery disk was run on systems with small high-DPI screens. Everyone that I know of (except Veritas), have resolved this issue several years ago.

jimbo45 said:

How about (also works) the IBM old Mainframe emulator IBM/MVS OS -- amazing that you can get an OS which ran on the old "Big Blue" (IBM) mainframe machines. (Hercules Emulator with IBM MVS 3.8J).

https://wotho.ethz.ch/tk4-/

If you guys ever wanted to see what a mainframe OS was like then this is a good starting point - many of the concepts are still valid today. E,G virtual memory, paging.

One thing you will have trouble with though is the awful "JCL" or job control language you had to put together to get batch jobs (or background jobs to run) -- no easy "Batch scripts" like on modern PC's.

Have fun though -- runs both on Linux and Windows (inc Win 11).

I warn you in advance --It's horribly addictive. I can imagine some "Old School Sys Progs" messing around with this.

Cheers
jimbo

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Having been a system programmer on IBM mainframes since 1973 and to this day (from OS/VS1 to z/OS with a few DOS years in between) I could never understand why people thought JCL was difficult. Having gotten that off my chest, I've been using the TK4- build for a few years and it is quite cool, and it makes you appreciate the licensed software (like ISPF, SDSF, etc.) that you take for granted.

OldMainframeGuy said:

Having been a system programmer on IBM mainframes since 1973 and to this day (from OS/VS1 to z/OS with a few DOS years in between) I could never understand why people thought JCL was difficult. Having gotten that off my chest, I've been using the TK4- build for a few years and it is quite cool, and it makes you appreciate the licensed software (like ISPF, SDSF, etc.) that you take for granted.

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One thing I thought was really smart on IBM mainframes was the concept of GDG's (for the uninitiated Generation data groups) so it made cataloguing and data archival a real doddle e.g you could have directory(0), directory(-1),directory(-2) and the next backup directory(+1) could shift to directory(0), 0 would become -1, and -1 would become -2 for as many levels as you want so you always knew what were the latest and recent copies of the archive -- Brilliant system -- shame nobody has modelled this for PC backups etc -- I've 2 X 20 TB HDD space with loads of directories -- manual management is quite a pain these days. !!!!!

The main problem with JCL wasn't JCL per-se - but the problem of getting batch stuff into the system as usually there was a "queue" system to enter stuff into the computer even online via TSO (quite good actually). It got a bit irritating when you submitted something and then 30 mins later had to re-do it because of a stupid silly mistake in the JCL !!! and at the time I was involved in IBM mainframes management was usually too stupid or mean to invest in decent productivity tools like online JCL checker etc etc. !!!!

Two things I hated though were VSAM -- Very Silly/Stupid (aka SLOW) Access Method !!!! and those dreadful "Partitioned Data sets" which were libraries but just gobbled up disk space no end. Unix type structures infinitely better and more efficient -- especially things like XFS file system.

I believe IBM was quite late into relational DB's - its DB2 wasn't the best compared with SAP HANA, MariaDB/MySQL etc -- and the non relation DB called IMS was pretty horrible too.

I used to drive the sysprogs bonkers by killing the machine in getting code to read an IMS database backwards sequentially segment by segment using the most inefficient method possible (well we were all young once !!!). CICS (fortunately not in my part of projects) seemed also a bit of a dogs dinner -- seems every time something changed or another transaction added you had to re-start the system -- not a good idea if 100's or more online users !!! and IPL'ing (aka re-booting) a mainframe isn't like rebooting a Windows PC -- even a server.

Cheers
jimbo