planning to replace my 1TB "spinning" hard disk drive


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Hi Shawn,
I am planning to replace my 1TB "spinning" hard disk drive in my laptop with a new blank identical HDD. The drive is only 2 years old but HWINFO reports: "Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 14" the error number is still the same (1 week now) and all other SMART checks are good but it worries me.

To restore my new HDD with a Windows backup image (on an external drive) I want to use my recovery USB thumb drive to access Windows RE: All I can find on the web on this topic is this: "System Image Recovery. Use System Image Recovery for file backup and system image backup. System Image Recovery requires an external storage device" and also "When you deploy Windows by applying images, you must manually configure the hard drive partitions. When WinRE is installed on a hard drive, the partition must be formatted as NTFS."

That's all; no tutorials anywhere except a lot of (off topic) You Tube posts. I am looking for a clear step by step guide how to format the blank HDD and then restore it, is this formatting option a menu on the recovery disk (Windows RE, Troubleshoot, Advanced Options)? Then I plan to perform a "System image recovery" with that same recovery disk. I can figure all this out by trying it on my old W10 laptop but I may screw things up and rather do it with guidance from a technical person.

If you know of a link that describes this simple procedure in detail without using any 3rd party software I would be very grateful. AOMIE documents have something that is very vague and EaseUS is offering me online remote assistance for a fee. Maybe elevenforum can write a tutorial "How to replace a laptop Hard Disk Drive using Windows RE USB drive"? IMO non-technical users like myself would be helped with that.

Thanks

Frank

Meanwhile I found this (see attached), would that work?

Sorry Shawn, I should have looked in EightForums, that whole procedure has been spelled out by you there:

System Image Recovery - Restore Image on Computer in Windows 8​

 

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Hello Frank, :-)

Personally, you might consider using something like Macrium Reflect to create and restore a full system image with.

 

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If this is your main drive, you should give serious consideration to replacing the drive with an SSD (from £80 approx).

You will see a big difference in peformance.
 

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Hello Frank, :-)

Personally, you might consider using something like Macrium Reflect to create and restore a full system image with.

Hi Shawn
I considered it but want to try a recovery with the Windows image file, I will post the results.
Thanks for the Macrium guide.
 

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If this is your main drive, you should give serious consideration to replacing the drive with an SSD (from £80 approx).

You will see a big difference in peformance.
Laptop has an internal SSD slot (empty) and 2.5" HDD slot. I want to replace my HDD first and may add later a 250 GB SSD. Not after speed so much more interested in carefree/hassle free use, while preserving my files (just web browsing, banking and e-mail).
 

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"When you deploy Windows by applying images, you must manually configure the hard drive partitions."

That is deployment which is usually used to deploy the same .wim image to multiple devices.
It is not the same as restoring a windows system image.

If you want to restore a windows system image to a different disk using the simple gui:

If you havent done it before, it is simplest to detach all disks except the one containing the image and the new disk.

Attach the new disk to port previously occupied by the old disk. Boot up something that has the system recovery options> Select system image recovery.

To do it that way the new disk should be at least as large as the old one.
 
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When you get your new disk, get a USB enclosure for it so you can check it easily before fitting it to your computer.
- Check that it has been initialised. If it is formatted then it must have been initialised. The formatting is not important of itself because restoring the image will overwrite the formatting anyway.
- If you are in any doubt, post the Disk mgmt display - C:\Windows\System32\diskmgmt.msc
How to Post a Screenshot of Disk Management - TenForumsTutorials

If it has been initialised, you can then restore the image.

To restore my new HDD with a Windows backup image (on an external drive)
You do know MS told us to stop using it in 2017?
If you insist on using it then also make a Macrium reflect image as a fallback.

I want to use my recovery USB thumb drive
It is menu driven. You can explorer the menu system safely to find the Restore system image entry then take it from there.
If you actually meant an installation USB then, at its main Install now screen, click on Repair my computer to get into the menu system.
The procedure is pretty much the same as it was in Win8
System Image Restore - Eight Forums

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Thanks for the link, very nice, but already ordered my Toshiba MQ04ABF100, on recommendation of Acer Support.



You should cancel that order. That's a 5400rpm hard drive. Slow as a drunk snail.
If you insist on buying a hard drive, at least get a 7200rpm drive.


Like this...


Or an SSD like this...
 
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That is deployment which is usually used to deploy the same .wim image to multiple devices.
It is not the same as restoring a windows system image.
I made an image of my disk in Windows and the 4 steps in my post above were from MS so I will try to restore it with my recovery Window RE, if it fails I have the EaseUS Todo backup to try (and my original HDD that stiil works)
 

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Laptop has an internal SSD slot (empty) and 2.5" HDD slot. I want to replace my HDD first and may add later a 250 GB SSD. Not after speed so much more interested in carefree/hassle free use, while preserving my files (just web browsing, banking and e-mail).
I have replaced all my hdds with ssds. They are much more robust from a dropped laptop perspective as no moving parts. Windows 10/11 just works so much better with ssds - none of those freezes whilst Defender catches up etc.

A 1tb sata ssd will fit in 2.5" hdd slot.

Once you have ssd rather than hdd, you will always wonder why you never changed sooner.

PS forget all the bs re. write cycle life from SSD. If your photo remotely reflects your age, drive will last longer than you LOL.
 

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the 4 steps in my post above were from MS
I think you are mistaken. Those words are not in MS's normal style.
See my earlier post for a link to a decently-documented procedure.

I trust Ghot's posts in this forum. If he says it is a bad choice then at least cancel that order to buy yourself some time to think it over & investigate its performance for yourself.
As for it being recommended by Acer support team, I find that very surprising. You didn't accidentally put words in their mouths, did you? You didn't perhaps say you were only interested in HDDs not SSDs?

Best of luck,
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Thanks for the link, very nice, but already ordered my Toshiba MQ04ABF100, on recommendation of Acer Support.
In researching availability I found out that Samsung UK have a very good discount at present. I've just ordered one for myself as an upgrade for the perfectly healthy (but slow) Seagate ST1000LM035-1RK172 in my own Acer, System One below.

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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta, and the release build of Win11 22H2, both as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta, and the release build of Win11 22H2, both as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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And that is one of the best looking picture of me:D
 
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    Windows 11 Home 22H2 build: 22621.1413
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer/Aspire5 515-54G-70AG
    CPU
    Intel i7-10510U CPU 1.8 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Intel Comet Lake-U PCH-LP Premium, firmware version 3.2
    Memory
    8 GB 1333.3 MHz Dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD + NVIDIA GeForce MX250
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC255 chipset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Full HD TN 16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 220 NITS
    Hard Drives
    SATA mechanical 1TB TOSHIBA HDWL110 X1UGPHELT 5600 rpm
    PSU
    Murata battery AP18C4k (31CP5/81/68) Li-Polymer Battery Pack, full capacity 46620 mWh 11.4V
    Case
    Polycarbonate with a metal panel lid
    Cooling
    1 fan
    Keyboard
    US
    Mouse
    Precision Trackpad
    Internet Speed
    15 mb/s
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    2022 Intel diplay driver: gfx_win_101.3413_101.2111.exe

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Bree,

You do realise that Samsung UK's warranty for SSDs, SD cards & USB sticks necessitates your paying for the non-refundable postage to the Netherlands for any warranty claim?
Samsung-Seagate UK SSD-USB-SD warranties - TenForums
I got my money back only by appealing directly to the Samsung UK CEO.
I don't like people stealing from me.

Denis
 
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@SIW2
"
If you havent done it before, it is simplest to detach all disks except the one containing the image and the new disk.

Attach the new disk to port previously occupied by the old disk. Boot up something that has the system recovery options> Select system image recovery.

To do it that way the new disk should be at least as large as the old one."

Eactly what I have in mind, the two disks (old and new) are identical

I will post the results, still waiting for my Toshiba.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2 build: 22621.1413
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer/Aspire5 515-54G-70AG
    CPU
    Intel i7-10510U CPU 1.8 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Intel Comet Lake-U PCH-LP Premium, firmware version 3.2
    Memory
    8 GB 1333.3 MHz Dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD + NVIDIA GeForce MX250
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC255 chipset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Full HD TN 16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 220 NITS
    Hard Drives
    SATA mechanical 1TB TOSHIBA HDWL110 X1UGPHELT 5600 rpm
    PSU
    Murata battery AP18C4k (31CP5/81/68) Li-Polymer Battery Pack, full capacity 46620 mWh 11.4V
    Case
    Polycarbonate with a metal panel lid
    Cooling
    1 fan
    Keyboard
    US
    Mouse
    Precision Trackpad
    Internet Speed
    15 mb/s
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    2022 Intel diplay driver: gfx_win_101.3413_101.2111.exe

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You do realise that Samsung UK's warranty for SSDs, SD cards & USB sticks necessitates your paying for the non-refundable postage to the Netherlands for any warranty claim?
No, I didn't. But I've not yet had a Samsung SSD fail on me, at that price I think I can afford to take the risk.....
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta, and the release build of Win11 22H2, both as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    i5 M 520
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 Insider Beta, and the release build of Win11 22H2, both as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 128GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

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@Try3
"As for it being recommended by Acer support team, I find that very surprising"
This is what Acer Philippines wrote me:
We are adding below a list of all the recommended hard drives for your unit which we have extracted from the serial number for your best reference

HDD WD 2.5" 5400rpm 2000GB
WD20SPZX-21UA7T0 , 7mmzh 2D
, 1TB/P , MN1000M SATA III
128MB LF F/W:01.01A01

HDD WD 2.5" 5400rpm 2000GB
WD20SPZX-21UA7T0 , 7mmzh 2D
, 1TB/P , MN1000M SATA III
128MB LF F/W:01.01A01

HDD WD 2.5" 5400rpm 1000GB
WD10SPZX-21Z10T0 , 7mmzh 1D
, 1TB/P , MN1000S SATA III
128MB LF F/W: 02.01A02

HDD TOSHIBA 2.5" 5400rpm
1000GB MQ04ABF100 , 1TB/P,
acer code SATA III 128MB LF+HF
F/W:JU001J

The Toshiba (SATA 6) is made in PH and only costs US$ 35.-

This is the HDD that I have now that according to HWINFO:
"Number of Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 14 (all smart checks are OK)" The number is still 14.

HDD SEAGATE 2.5" 5400rpm
1000GB ST1000LM035
,1RK172-190 ,Rosewood 1TB
,7mmzh HDD - SATA III 128MB LF
F/W:ACM2
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 22H2 build: 22621.1413
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer/Aspire5 515-54G-70AG
    CPU
    Intel i7-10510U CPU 1.8 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Intel Comet Lake-U PCH-LP Premium, firmware version 3.2
    Memory
    8 GB 1333.3 MHz Dual channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD + NVIDIA GeForce MX250
    Sound Card
    RealTek ALC255 chipset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Full HD TN 16"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 220 NITS
    Hard Drives
    SATA mechanical 1TB TOSHIBA HDWL110 X1UGPHELT 5600 rpm
    PSU
    Murata battery AP18C4k (31CP5/81/68) Li-Polymer Battery Pack, full capacity 46620 mWh 11.4V
    Case
    Polycarbonate with a metal panel lid
    Cooling
    1 fan
    Keyboard
    US
    Mouse
    Precision Trackpad
    Internet Speed
    15 mb/s
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    2022 Intel diplay driver: gfx_win_101.3413_101.2111.exe

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In researching availability I found out that Samsung UK have a very good discount at present. I've just ordered one for myself as an upgrade for the perfectly healthy (but slow) Seagate ST1000LM035-1RK172 in my own Acer, System One below.

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That is good price in the UK. I got one last year for £68 which was a bargain at the time.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i5-8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    benq gw2480
    PSU
    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Operating System
    win7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    pentium g5400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450

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