Power failure after connecting USB multiport hub


mm71

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Hi.
It is the second time in a short time that after I connect a USB multiport hub to my laptop and connect more than 1 device I experience a power failure and I have to do a hard reset to restart the computer otherwise it won't restart and is like dead.
This did not happen in the past.
Is there a way to fix this problem?
Thank you,
Matt
 

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Have you tried the individual devices without the Hub? Could be one of those has a problem or the Hub itself is an issue. And it may be crucial as to whether the USB 2 or USB 3 ports are involved, USB 3 is supposed to provide more power. Also possible is using a self-powered Hub to lighten the load in the ports.
 

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Hi,
thank you for your reply.
They all work fine without the hub.
The hub that causes the crash (although it didn't initially - I even used all 4 ports) supports USB 3.
I have now tried an old one (supporting USB 2) and so far it is working fine.
Maybe it just generates too much power (that's why I have to do a hard reset by disconnecting the battery and then holding down the power button for a few seconds).
 

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    Windows 11 Home Edition Version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.3296)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7506 2-in-1
    CPU
    11th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1135G7 Processor
    Memory
    12GB
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    Intel Iris Xe
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Every USB Hub that I have requires a external power source. I mean it depends on the device. If you have 2 in should be fine but 3+ you'll need that power adapter/source

Especially if it's a external HDD 2.5
 

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I have rehabbed several 2.5" HDDs using the SATA connection in USB cases, similar to the WD My Passport and run on USB 5VDC only. The larger 3.5" HDDs require both 5VDC and 12VDC which is the need for self-power for the case.
 

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I ran into this phenomenon on a dual drive bay a couple of years ago. Those bays are limited in total capacity (e.g. 8 TB total). That's because drives with bigger capacities usually draw more power. Net effect was on an older bay I could run 2x4TB drives, but only 1x8TB drive. Hopefully that makes sense. It's definitely possible to put more demand on a hub than it can supply. I'm in line with other posters who suggest (a) trying devices by themselves to make sure they work and (b) getting a sense of total draw demanding by devices vs. total power delivery capability of the hub.
HTH,
--Ed--
 

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Yes, all my devices work fine not only by themselves, but also with an USB 2 multiport hub.
I had also noticed that with the USB 3 one my Ethernet adapter got a bit warm. Not hot, but still a bit warm. Now with the USB 2 one it feels cooler.
Technically, my laptop should support USB 3.2, but maybe only one device at a time.
I guess there is nothing that can be done to solve this? Not a big problem, but I was just wondering if there is a tweak or something,
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Home Edition Version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.3296)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7506 2-in-1
    CPU
    11th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-1135G7 Processor
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) Truelife
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
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    English International Backlit Silver
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    Microsoft HID Device
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