Problems using the Back up and Restore (Windows 7) feature in Windows 11


scott784

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I recently upgraded my system to Windows 11. I have attempted on several occasions to use the Back up and Restore (Windows 7) feature inside Windows 11 (in the Control panel).

Primarily, I wanted to use this backup feature built into Windows to create a system image of the newly installed operating system on my new disc. However, each time I have attempted to save the back up to my 2TB external drive, I get the following error message in Windows:

QUOTE "Windows Backup failed to get an exclusive lock on the EFI system partition (ESP). This may happen if another application is using the files on the ESP" END QUOTE

The error message is Ox8078011E, which means nothing to me.

Question: does anyone know why this keeps happening? I have used this type of Windows backup for imaging for years without a problem. I will say my current configuration now involves two separate internal hard drives (SSDs). I've still got Windows 10 installed on one drive while Windows 11 is installed on the separate drive (in a dual boot configuration).

So is it possible that the master boot record (now that it's dual boot) is seeing the other partition with Windows 10 and is creating this problem and error message when I try to create a system image of WIndows 11 in my 2nd internal SSD? Again, I am only trying to create a system image of Windows 11, which was newly installed on a new/separate internal hard drive (SSD). I use an external SSD for all backups. I will most likely eliminate Windows 10 once I've had more time with Windows 11, but for now I want to keep my dual boot setup.

If there is no easy solution to this backup problem, my other question would be to ask about popular and very reliable ways to create system images in a very easy manner? I don't need extensive backup software as this PC is only for home use. But I do want easy, quick and very reliable system images so that in the event I ever have to revert back to it - it's a simple process to use. I've used system images before; and they are great to have (obviously in addition to separate file backups).

Thanks for any replies here about imaging software and my experience using Window's built in feature.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Z390 Gaming X-CF
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB
    WDC SSD 500GB
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
@scott784


Even Microsoft recommends using a 3rd party backup solution.
They are deprecating Windows Backup and Restore.






Quickie Macrium picture guide...


Macrium Reflect User Guide...

Macrium Notes:
1. A full OS image backup will be approx. 1/2 the size of the total "used space" on the C:\ drive.
2. Backing up takes about 75 seconds for every 20GB of "used space" on the C:\ drive.



Full tutorial...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
@scott784


Even Microsoft recommends using a 3rd party backup solution.
They are deprecating Windows Backup and Restore.

@scott784


Even Microsoft recommends using a 3rd party backup solution.
They are deprecating Windows Backup and Restore.






Quickie Macrium picture guide...


Macrium Reflect User Guide...

Macrium Notes:
1. A full OS image backup will be approx. 1/2 the size of the total "used space" on the C:\ drive.
2. Backing up takes about 75 seconds for every 20GB of "used space" on the C:\ drive.



Full tutorial...
Thanks for sharing. Funny you mention Macrium Reflect because I saw them in reviews; and I've just made a system image (successfully) with this program. I just have to take more time though and get more familiar with the program.

One thing that does not seem so obvious (how to do) is creating a bootable/recovery media CD. When I go into the Macrium Reflect program, it seems to want to place a recovery drive on my boot record. But, I am not sure if that is a good idea, at least until I get rid of Windows 10 (off my other internal SSD).

I just need to figure out how to make the bootable physical CD using Macrium Reflect. I've got an optical burner for making discs, so no problem there. I will read through the manual to become more knowledgeable about Macrium Reflect (when I am not at work). But if this process (making bootable recovery CD) is a few easy steps, please post.

Thanks again for your post.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Z390 Gaming X-CF
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB
    WDC SSD 500GB
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
Plug in your drive, open Macrium - other tasks - create rescue media and the option to place it on your drive will be there
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Beta, 11 Dev, W11 Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware M15 Ryzen Edition R6
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900HX
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Hard Drives
    1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
    1 x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
@scott784


I use Window PE 10, rather than WinRE...

1. I go to Other Tasks > Create Rescue Media
2. Then I put a CD in the optical drive
3. Then I choose: CD/DVD Burner
4. Then I check the box shown and then click Advanced.
5. I choose: Windows PE 10 (or 11) (WADK), and click OK.
6. Then I click: Build

That's pretty much it. (I don't have Recovery Partitions, so I don't use the WinRE option).

In actuality, I create a bootable USB Flash Drive. It's WAY faster than a CD or DVD.


Then when I need to restore... I reboot, and hit the F8 key (in my case) to access the boot menu.
Then I just choose USB or CD or Macrium (if I have added it to the boot menu).


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I posted the Macrium Reflect v8 User Guide in post #2.
Macrium Reflect can do LOT of things. Personally, I just use it for basic backups and restores.

Everything you want to know about the Macrium Rescue Environment,
is in the User Guide, starting on page: 282







Macrium can do a ton of things, I know nothing about. Everyone has different needs, which is why there is a User Guide.

The picture guide I made is ONLY a "Quickie Guide".
It's only so folks can get a quick backup made, before their patience expires.

I included the link to the Full Tutorial on Ten Forums, for those who want to dive a little deeper,
and the link for the User Guide, for those that want to earn a MacriumReflect suit and cape.

If you want the Macrium Reflect mask and utility belt as well, here is the link to the MR forums... :-)

 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
@scott784


I use Window PE 10, rather than WinRE...

1. I go to Other Tasks > Create Rescue Media
2. Then I put a CD in the optical drive
3. Then I choose: CD/DVD Burner
4. Then I check the box shown and then click Advanced.
5. I choose: Windows PE 10 (or 11) (WADK), and click OK.
6. Then I click: Build

That's pretty much it. (I don't have Recovery Partitions, so I don't use the WinRE option).

In actuality, I create a bootable USB Flash Drive. It's WAY faster than a CD or DVD.


Then when I need to restore... I reboot, and hit the F8 key (in my case) to access the boot menu.
Then I just choose USB or CD or Macrium (if I have added it to the boot menu).


View attachment 29371




I posted the Macrium Reflect v8 User Guide in post #2.
Macrium Reflect can do LOT of things. Personally, I just use it for basic backups and restores.

Everything you want to know about the Macrium Rescue Environment,
is in the User Guide, starting on page: 282







Macrium can do a ton of things, I know nothing about. Everyone has different needs, which is why there is a User Guide.

The picture guide I made is ONLY a "Quickie Guide".
It's only so folks can get a quick backup made, before their patience expires.

I included the link to the Full Tutorial on Ten Forums, for those who want to dive a little deeper,
and the link for the User Guide, for those that want to earn a MacriumReflect suit and cape.

If you want the Macrium Reflect mask and utility belt as well, here is the link to the MR forums... :)

Why do you use WinPE10 rather WinRE? It needs more download files, cannot backup over wifi, and is generally inferior in handling drivers.

I have not use WinPe for over 2 years.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
Why do you use WinPE10 rather WinRE? It needs more download files, cannot backup over wifi, and is generally inferior in handling drivers.

I have not use WinPe for over 2 years.
The line right under step 6
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3374 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Why do you use WinPE10 rather WinRE?
The line right under step 6
..... (I don't have Recovery Partitions, so I don't use the WinRE option).

You don't need a recovery partition for Reflect to be able to use WinRE. If you disable the Recovery environment before deleting the recovery partition then WinRE.wim is stored in C:\Windows\System32\Recovery until you decide to enable the recovery environment again. Reflect will find it there if you ask it to build WinRE rescue media.

Macrium said:

Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE)​

Files for the Windows Recovery rescue environment are pre-existing and located on the local file system.
The folowinng folders, and sub-folders are searched for file WinRE.wim

C:\Windows\System32\Recovery
<ALL VOLUMES>\Recovery
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
@scott784


I use Window PE 10, rather than WinRE...

1. I go to Other Tasks > Create Rescue Media
2. Then I put a CD in the optical drive
3. Then I choose: CD/DVD Burner
4. Then I check the box shown and then click Advanced.
5. I choose: Windows PE 10 (or 11) (WADK), and click OK.
6. Then I click: Build

That's pretty much it. (I don't have Recovery Partitions, so I don't use the WinRE option).

In actuality, I create a bootable USB Flash Drive. It's WAY faster than a CD or DVD.


Then when I need to restore... I reboot, and hit the F8 key (in my case) to access the boot menu.
Then I just choose USB or CD or Macrium (if I have added it to the boot menu).


View attachment 29371




I posted the Macrium Reflect v8 User Guide in post #2.
Macrium Reflect can do LOT of things. Personally, I just use it for basic backups and restores.

Everything you want to know about the Macrium Rescue Environment,
is in the User Guide, starting on page: 282







Macrium can do a ton of things, I know nothing about. Everyone has different needs, which is why there is a User Guide.

The picture guide I made is ONLY a "Quickie Guide".
It's only so folks can get a quick backup made, before their patience expires.

I included the link to the Full Tutorial on Ten Forums, for those who want to dive a little deeper,
and the link for the User Guide, for those that want to earn a MacriumReflect suit and cape.

If you want the Macrium Reflect mask and utility belt as well, here is the link to the MR forums... :)

Well, your instructions worked like a charm.

The only problem I ran into was the fact that after going to "Other Tasks" and "Create Rescue Media", I never had the option to choose CD/DVD burner. However, I had a spare 8GB Kinston USB stick. So I just stuck that into my PC and I then had the option of choosing my spare USB stick to create the bootable rescue media. Perhaps a lot of CDs don't have enough space; and therefore can't accommodate the creation of the media? But the USB stick worked great; and I am sure it's a better choice anyway. And, as you said, faster to create the media on a USB device versus a CD/DVD. Btw, the creation tool defaulted to "WinRE" so I just left it at that since I don't know the differences anyway.

I did test the bootable media; and it works (F8 key in my case) to access the boot menu on my PC. Now, my "last task" will be to simply ensure that I understand how to correctly use an image backup from Macrium Reflect, in the event I ever need to reinstall Windows 11 from a backup image. I've done it before using Window's built-in software, but not using Macrium Reflect. I see there's TONS of information about Macrium Reflect in the manual. But I really only need to become familiar with the basics of doing imaging and separately file/folder backups and restores for home use.

Macrium Reflect does appear to be a very popular program choice for backups; and I see there's a paid version too. Although I am not entirely sure I need a paid version. My trial is for 30 days before it reverts to the free version without payment.

Thanks again :)
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-9700 @ 3.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Technology Z390 Gaming X-CF
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB
    WDC SSD 500GB
    Antivirus
    Norton 360
The only problem I ran into was the fact that after going to "Other Tasks" and "Create Rescue Media", I never had the option to choose CD/DVD burner. .... Perhaps a lot of CDs don't have enough space; and therefore can't accommodate the creation of the media?
If your PC has a CD/DVD drive then the Rescue Media Builder should offer it as an option, even without a disk in the drive. If it doesn't then that is not Macrium's fault, it is your Windows system that isn't telling Reflect that there is a CD/DVD drive installed. Maybe yours is an external drive, not a system device? In that case you could use the option to create an ISO and burn it to the disk later.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 4GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Lattitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Beta as native boot vhdx.

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@scott784

2nd set of pics down from the top...






Restoring an image from the bootable Rescue Media...
Image1.png



I "don't" use Rapid Restore because it only restores the "changes" since the backup was made.
When NOT using Rapid Restore and check marking the overwrite box in the last pic, you will have done the
most complete Restore possible.

This way, any viruses, malware or corruptions will be sure to be erased and over-written.
 
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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@scott784

2nd set of pics down from the top...






Restoring an image from the bootable Rescue Media...
View attachment 29377



I "don't" use Rapid Restore because it only restores the "changes" since the backup was made.
When NOT using Rapid Restore and check marking the overwrite box in the last pic, you will have done the
most complete Restore possible.

This way, any viruses, malware or corruptions will be sure to be erased and over-written.

The statement that a full restore gurantees to delete a virus over rdr is just not true.

Macrium Restore works at the block level not file level.

If the full backup originally had virus, a full restore or rdr will make no difference.

If the virus appeared after the full, then rdr or full restore will remove it. Reflect works at block level, not file level, so cannot be affected by any virus.

By doing a full, all you are doing is overwriting data that has not changed at the block level with exactly the same data, and overwriting data at block level that has changed

All RDR does is bypass writing data that has not changed. The first step of using RDR is to identify changed blocks.

There is no normal scenario where rdr ends up with a different restore over a full restore.

There are a few abnormal cases where rdr will not work e g. if you have changed partition sizes, added/deleted partitions, too much has changed etc., but in that sort of case rdr reverts to full restore automatically anyway.

So when rdr can do its job, the end result is identical to a full. Equally when rdr cannot work, it just does a full anyway.
 

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If the full backup originally had virus, a full restore or rdr will make no difference.


No one is talking about if the backup had the virus.
If the backup has a virus or file corruption... then you're done before you start.

I (meaning myself) don't use Rapid Restore, or Incremental or Differential backups.
And I will NOT advise someone else to do so. If you want to advise the OP that way... then feel free.
 
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
No one is talking about if the backup had the virus.
If the backup has a virus or file corruption... then you're done before you start.

I (meaning myself) don't use Rapid Restore, or Incremental or Differential backups.
And I will NOT advise someone else to do so. If you want to advise the OP that way... then feel free.
i said that but then discussed case of infection AFTER backup where you said as below.

I accept you might not want to use RDR but the last paragraph is just wrong.

If you have got infected since last image backup, it makes no difference if you use RDR or Full Restore. You are effectively saying Full restore is guaranteed to remove virus but RDR is not.

The point is Macrium Restore does not restore files but blocks. So if a file gets infected, Reflect detects the blocks have changed, and the blocks are restored to original state.

Quote
-------------------------------------
I "don't" use Rapid Restore because it only restores the "changes" since the backup was made.
When NOT using Rapid Restore and check marking the overwrite box in the last pic, you will have done the
most complete Restore possible.

This way, any viruses, malware or corruptions will be sure to be erased and over-written.
---------------------------------------------------------


I have no problem with you telling OP you only do full backups (your personal choice), but the statement about viruses is incorrect and can influence others into thinking RDR is less safe than a full restore. This is just not true.
 

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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Realtek built in
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The point is Macrium Restore does not restore files but blocks


The point is... I'm not an expert hacker, nor are you. "Blocks just might be large enough for a bit of code.
On top of that... a corrupt block can easily bork Windows and or a driver.

Lastly, are you telling me I'm not allowed to think what I want to think.
I don't recall asking for your critique.

I also notice you are still addressing me and not the OP.
Have a nice day. ^^
 

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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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The point is... I'm not an expert hacker, nor are you. "Blocks just might be large enough for a bit of code.
On top of that... a corrupt block can easily bork Windows and or a driver.

Lastly, are you telling me I'm not allowed to think what I want to think.
I don't recall asking for your critique.

I also notice you are still addressing me and not the OP.
Have a nice day. ^^
No I was addressing you, to correct an erroneous statement you made.

If you really do not believe me, what can I say but I am a little disappointed that you (a justifiably respected expert) cannot accept a correction without seeing it as a personal critique.

Not worth discussing any more.

ir
 

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No I was addressing you, to correct an erroneous statement you made.

If you really do not believe me, what can I say but I am a little disappointed that you (a justifiably respected expert) cannot accept a correction without seeing it as a personal critique.

Not worth discussing any more.

ir


Well, first you jumped on my case about WinRE, which I clearly stated doesn't work on my machine.
Then you decided that I was NOT allowed to NOT use Rapid Restore.

Trust me... when I want to know how you think I should run my computer... I'll let you know.
Have a nice day. :-)
 

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If your PC has a CD/DVD drive then the Rescue Media Builder should offer it as an option, even without a disk in the drive. If it doesn't then that is not Macrium's fault, it is your Windows system that isn't telling Reflect that there is a CD/DVD drive installed. Maybe yours is an external drive, not a system device? In that case you could use the option to create an ISO and burn it to the disk later.

View attachment 29375
Indeed you are correct. It is not the fault of Macrium. I discovered that my LG BD-ROM/DVD burner is not working. Device Manager doesn't see it at all.

I am going to have to trouble shoot and/or replace the optical drive. It's very odd though since my PC is less than 2 years old, and the BD-ROM/DVD burner has barely been used at all. It could be a loose wire, not entirely sure, but I'll get it fixed.

I don't want to divert the topic on this thread. I am merely pointing out how sometimes problems are discovered while trying to accomplish another task.

Back on topic, I did manage to get the rescue media made using one of my spare USB sticks, as stated in a previous post. And I appreciate the posts from others in this thread.
 

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    Norton 360
If your PC has a CD/DVD drive then the Rescue Media Builder should offer it as an option, even without a disk in the drive. If it doesn't then that is not Macrium's fault, it is your Windows system that isn't telling Reflect that there is a CD/DVD drive installed. Maybe yours is an external drive, not a system device? In that case you could use the option to create an ISO and burn it to the disk later.

View attachment 29375



Good look.
Yeah, it's the USB that doesn't show unless it's plugged in somewhere.
 

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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
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    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Well, first you jumped on my case about WinRE, which I clearly stated doesn't work on my machine.
Then you decided that I was NOT allowed to NOT use Rapid Restore.

Trust me... when I want to know how you think I should run my computer... I'll let you know.
Have a nice day. :-)
I never once said how you should run your pc.

I was just stating that your statement about a full restorre removing a virus, implying rdr may not, was untrue, and explained why.

Bye Bye.
 
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    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0

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