Question About Utilizing Either Proxmox Or XCP-NG Virtualization Software


Davy49

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I was just wondering if anyone in here has ever used either one of these virtualization software clients: (1) Proxmox - Powerful open-source server solutions or (2) XCP-ng - XenServer Based, Community Powered they both appear to be free as well as open source. Unfortunately I sometimes just downright get the urge to tryout something that's new to me and different. I did see that at least with one of these choices that this application is recommended to utilize on a usb drive: balenaEtcher - Flash OS images to SD cards & USB drives, thanks in advance for all information that might be provided to me.
 
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Are you familiar with Linux? If not, it's a big step. Meanwhile I have 2 Servers running PROXMOX and 1 running ESXi.
PROXMOX is powerfull and once you are used to it, you will like it. It's easy to install, but difficult to configure.
So I had to re-install it several times, till I found the right config for me.
I suggest you to watch all YouTube videos you can find and start. Try this and that and sooner or later you manage it.
With the right hardware you can run 10 VMs parallel without any problem.
Good luck!
 

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POLYSIUS said:
Are you familiar with Linux? If not, it's a big step. Meanwhile I have 2 Servers running PROXMOX and 1 running ESXi.
PROXMOX is powerfull and once you are used to it, you will like it. It's easy to install, but difficult to configure.
So I had to re-install it several times, till I found the right config for me.
I suggest you to watch all YouTube videos you can find and start. Try this and that and sooner or later you manage it.
With the right hardware you can run 10 VMs parallel without any problem.
Good luck!
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POLYSIUS,
Thanks so much for your response, the only thing that I'm actually wanting to do is utilize a virtual machine, from reading your comment this sounds like a fairly difficult method of doing this. I'm thinking that I should have done a lot more research about creating virtual machines before waiting until this late stage in my life.
 

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    Windows11Pro (x64)
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    PC/Desktop
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    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
Davy49 said:
POLYSIUS,
Thanks so much for your response, the only thing that I'm actually wanting to do is utilize a virtual machine, from reading your comment this sounds like a fairly difficult method of doing this. I'm thinking that I should have done a lot more research about creating virtual machines before waiting until this late stage in my life.
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If you are using Pro, it has great vm software built in (Hyper-V). There are some excellent tutorials on sister site www.tenforums.com showing you how to use it.
 

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    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
cereberus said:
If you are using Pro, it has great vm software built in (Hyper-V). There are some excellent tutorials on sister site www.tenforums.com showing you how to use it.
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cereberus,
Yes I'm currently using the following: Windows 11 Pro - 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor - Version 23H2 - O.S. Build 22635.2771
 

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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
While on the subject of VM's, isn't Hyper-V considered a certain type of VM and there was a second type of VM.
 

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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
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    Windows Defender that came with Windows
Almighty1 said:
While on the subject of VM's, isn't Hyper-V considered a certain type of VM and there was a second type of VM.
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There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
cereberus said:
There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.
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cereberus,
So great to be able to receive information from someone such as you that's knowledgeable about things like this and who knows what else. (y):-)
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows11Pro (x64)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP/HP8300EliteSFF
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
    Memory
    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
cereberus said:
There are two types
Type 1 - Hyper-V
Type 2 - Vmware, Virtualbox

Type 1 are generally more efficient as they share host hardware resources. The hypervisor is built in and runs under windows.

Type 2 are more flexible but the vm software runs on top of windows. Hardware is emulated.

Many articles on web showing pros and cons of each type.

For Windows 10/11 guests (except Home Guests), Hyper-V is far superior to Vmware or VB in performance.
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Thanks as I forgot who mentioned it originally many years ago on this forum. So am I correct that anything other than Hyper-V in general would be type 2 including the ones in the topic of this post?
 

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    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    64GB using 2x32GB CL16 Mushkin redLine modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
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    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
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    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
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    Windows Defender that came with Windows
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