Relocating Pagefile


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On Windows 10, you could relocate pagefile to a secondary drive.

I have an nvme/optane drive as main C drive and nvme drive as secondary drive.

The Optane drive is really quite poor in terms of write resilience - down to 96% in just under a year as I was storing all my vhds in a partition, and they do a lot of writing. I moved then to secondary drive, and still at 100% for several months.

So, on Windows 11, I tried to move pagefile as well, but it comes up with an error message saying it has created a temporary pagefile (on C drive) due to a pagefile configuration issue. I tried various combos, and only time I do not get error message is if I have a pagefile on C drive.

So, it seems you cannot have no pagefile on C Drive with W11?

Thoughts?
 

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On Windows 10, you could relocate pagefile to a secondary drive.

I have an nvme/optane drive as main C drive and nvme drive as secondary drive.

The Optane drive is really quite poor in terms of write resilience - down to 96% in just under a year as I was storing all my vhds in a partition, and they do a lot of writing. I moved then to secondary drive, and still at 100% for several months.

So, on Windows 11, I tried to move pagefile as well, but it comes up with an error message saying it has created a temporary pagefile (on C drive) due to a pagefile configuration issue. I tried various combos, and only time I do not get error message is if I have a pagefile on C drive.

So, it seems you cannot have no pagefile on C Drive with W11?

Thoughts?


You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
 
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You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
Pretty sure, I tried that but will double check - thanks.
 

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You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
I tried exactly this but it still does not work on my PC. I manually set pagefile to minimum 800 to avoid error message and 5200 on E drive but on reboot it gives this on left but setting is like on right, so I have no idea which is right.

EDIT: just double checked - no pagefile on E: drive - something is screwed up!

It works fine on W10 but not w11!
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I tried exactly this but it still does not work on my PC. I manually set pagefile to minimum 800 to avoid error message and 5200 on E drive but on reboot it gives this on left but setting is like on right, so I have no idea which is right.

EDIT: just double checked - no pagefile on E: drive - something is screwed up!

It works fine on W10 but not w11!
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Now, go into File Explorer and just delete the pagefile.sys that's there. Leave the one on the E: drive untouched.
 
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@cereberus


Another way to remove the page file from C: is to create the one on the other drive, reboot...
THEN in the Virtual Memory settings... highlight the C: drive and choose: No paging file.
 

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Based upon cereberus's general knowledge level, plus the op, I think he is saying that he's done this numerous times - but his current system is being a bit of a PITA and not letting him do it the way it's always worked in the past.

Is it possible that there is some app you have installed that is forcing at least 800 MB of system restore on the main drive that you're unaware of? It would have to be a really weird program, or at least one that I haven't used in a while ever ... but stranger things have happened.

Perhaps an AV suite is being over zealous and not allowing it to be removed for whatever reason?
 

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I don`t use a page file on W10 or W11, I`ve never had a issue. I stopped using a page file with W7 too, when I 1st started using small 120 to 128GB SSD`s
It all depends on how much memory you have.

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I doubt that it is a memory issue, but may still be worth investigating.

The key here is that he cannot get that Drive C pagefile to go away, and it's worked plenty of times before for him.
 

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My D: drive is a faster NVMe drive connected to PCIe 4. I have no problems running my pagefile on it:

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My D: drive is a faster NVMe drive connected to PCIe 4. I have no problems running my pagefile on it:

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Yeah - something weird is going on with my device. I have no idea what it is .

I might try a clean install for first time since Fred Flinstone visited UK
 

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Probably the best bet, as it's just weird that what worked perfectly fine before is not working now.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Yeah - something weird is going on with my device. I have no idea what it is .

I might try a clean install for first time since Fred Flinstone visited UK
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Education
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
    SK Hynix 512GB SATA SSD
    Internet Speed
    Fast!
I have done more testing. If I set C drive to 0 pagefile, and 5000 MB on secondary drive, when I reboot I get a temporary pagefile error. On googling, it seems that this is related to controllers. I have an optane nvme drive, and I think this kicks in before secondary drive controller and it complains. I just cannot set it to zero or no pagefile.

Best I can do is set it to minimum of 16 MB but then the secondary pagefile just does not seem to be active.

It sets up a temporary page file if I set C to 0.

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Now with C set to minimum of 16 MB as below, it looks better, but looking closer, it only sees C drive.
Pagefile is only 16 MB 1648495683833.png
But no pagefile on E drive!

I am sure this is related to my optane drive!

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0
On Windows 10, you could relocate pagefile to a secondary drive.

I have an nvme/optane drive as main C drive and nvme drive as secondary drive.

The Optane drive is really quite poor in terms of write resilience - down to 96% in just under a year as I was storing all my vhds in a partition, and they do a lot of writing. I moved then to secondary drive, and still at 100% for several months.

So, on Windows 11, I tried to move pagefile as well, but it comes up with an error message saying it has created a temporary pagefile (on C drive) due to a pagefile configuration issue. I tried various combos, and only time I do not get error message is if I have a pagefile on C drive.

So, it seems you cannot have no pagefile on C Drive with W11?

Thoughts?
While it's useful to know how to move the page file, it's not necessary to worry about optane's write resilience. One of the whole points of optane is that write endurance (to use the more conventional term) is almost unlimited. Moving any amount of writes from an optane to flash will do much, much more damage to the flash-based drive than avoided on the optane.

For some context, a consumer-level high-end machine I've used to do some fairly I/O-heavy background processing for years also uses a 480gb Optane, and it claims 2'274'903GB writes (i.e. 2275TBW; TBW == total terabytes written) and 88% life remaining. That's a fairly huge amount of writes. For some context, the popular samsung 980 1TB has a warranty up to 600TBW; so I'm already almost 4x over that warranty, which is for a drive 2x as large!

The fact that you've managed to already use 4% of your Optane's warrantied TBW (assuming your drive scales TBW with life % like mine) implies that there is something unusually write-intensive running on your system. I've never seen any system do anything like that much writes without a very specific cause - again, your usage likely would be enough to completely burn through a 1TB Samsung 980's life expectancy in just 1 year!

Additionally, quoted TBW numbers are not strictly related to actual drive life expectancy. They're just related to warranty; i.e. the bare minimum to expect. There's a very good chance your drive will survive much longer than your warrantied TBW (both flash and optane). Furthermore, on flash SSDs, the drive life remaining is usually derived from actual P/E cycles, i.e. after wear-levelling does its work. But optane doesn't do wear levelling, so that drive life remaining is probably just a counter counting total writes. But to give you an idea of just how conservative those numbers are: I also have a a 1tb 850 pro with 770TBW, that has a warranty of 300TBW, but drive life remaining is still 87%! I also have an 840 evo, which doesn't explicitly state it's TBW warranty, but related drives seem to have 150TBW warranties, and that's actually written 547TBW and is still at 56% of drive life expectancy, despite being in near continual use for 8 years now.

But even using your numbers: you state drive life expectancy is down 4% in a year - but that means that drive will survive 25 more years under that load. You won't be keeping that machine for 25 years, right? So don't worry about it.

TL;DR: keep your pagefile on the optane drive, that's definitely the drive with the most endurance that you have. Also, don't worry too much about write endurance in general. Also, your machine is doing an abnormally large number of writes for you to be seeing that much load on your Optane, so definitely don't move writes to a flash-based drive, that will make things much more dangerous (not that you're likely in danger territory quite yet, but still). However, consider doing some diagnostics to figure out why your machine is writing this much.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10+11
I have done more testing. If I set C drive to 0 pagefile, and 5000 MB on secondary drive, when I reboot I get a temporary pagefile error. On googling, it seems that this is related to controllers. I have an optane nvme drive, and I think this kicks in before secondary drive controller and it complains. I just cannot set it to zero or no pagefile.

Best I can do is set it to minimum of 16 MB but then the secondary pagefile just does not seem to be active.

It sets up a temporary page file if I set C to 0.

View attachment 25616

Now with C set to minimum of 16 MB as below, it looks better, but looking closer, it only sees C drive.
Pagefile is only 16 MB View attachment 25618
But no pagefile on E drive!

I am sure this is related to my optane drive!

View attachment 25617
Hi there
Doesn't seem to have an issue with vhdx physical files -- Shows C:\ as Boot and D:\ as Paging in Diskpart
Note my HDD has no standard Windows install. Everything is on vhdx files

Current Laptop with 1TB SSD (NVME) not optane though.

I have EFI(Fat32 100M), MSR (128M), 800GB NTFS, 200GB for Linux formatted XFS, 8GB Linux Swap.

the 800GB partition has a number of vhdx files all formatted ntfs (no separate efi partitions)
the XFS partition is for a Linux system (Root '/' and /home - user data) , and a final small Linux swap partition.

I'm not on Windows currently but I'll post image when next on.


Boot loader for all the windows systems and the Linux partition is in the single EFI partition.
At boot - can select any of the systems (including Linux) via the Windows boot menu mechanism - default is W11 Dev version, or from the Bios menu choose windows or linux -- I just usually go via the Windows menu.

Doesn't seem to be any problem on my laptop,

Just logged on to laptop :

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Cheers
jimbo
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    GE76 Dragon Tiamat 11UG-283US
    CPU
    Core i9-11980HK 2.6- 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    MS-17K3 Rev:1.0
    Memory
    Kingston Fury KF3200C20S4/16G 32GB (16G*2) DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 Laptop
    Sound Card
    Nahimic 4 / Hi-Res Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD 360Hz 3ms, IPS-Level
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Sony 990 Pro 1TB
    Cooling
    MSI Cooler Booster 5
    Keyboard
    Steel Series per-Key RGB with Anti-Ghost key+ silver lining
    Internet Speed
    Spectrum Gig 1000/40
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Intel AX210 160 Mhz WIFI 6E
    Killer 3100G 2.5 GB Ethernet Controller
    BT 5.3

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3527 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I purchased a new HP notebook and ran into this issue. For me it turned out be a single registry setting.
Move pagefile to another disk? (Windows keeps using C: disk instead of disk set)
I hope this helps others who have been stumped by this issue.
Thank you.
I confirm PagefileOnOSVolume=false has worked - it allows to remove pagefile on C: and create one on the Optane.1712104623920.png
However, it doesn't seem to be used in practise. I get OOM (out of memory) errors and GPU restarting when RAM runs out.
The Optane drive doesn't show almost any activity and the size is not being extended.


EDIT:
I forced the pagefile to be 28GB. Now the drive does short bursts of the transfer. I was able to open Kicad, Freecad, Fusion360 models, VScode, Chrome, Edge. ....with no mouse lag, so I thrown GTA 5 on top of it and I can still switch between apps and they load very fast.
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And this is HP laptop with 16Gb of ram and an integrated GPU that uses 4GB of that ram. This works so much better than Intel's SSD automatic acceleration.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11
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