Relocating Pagefile


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On Windows 10, you could relocate pagefile to a secondary drive.

I have an nvme/optane drive as main C drive and nvme drive as secondary drive.

The Optane drive is really quite poor in terms of write resilience - down to 96% in just under a year as I was storing all my vhds in a partition, and they do a lot of writing. I moved then to secondary drive, and still at 100% for several months.

So, on Windows 11, I tried to move pagefile as well, but it comes up with an error message saying it has created a temporary pagefile (on C drive) due to a pagefile configuration issue. I tried various combos, and only time I do not get error message is if I have a pagefile on C drive.

So, it seems you cannot have no pagefile on C Drive with W11?

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On Windows 10, you could relocate pagefile to a secondary drive.

I have an nvme/optane drive as main C drive and nvme drive as secondary drive.

The Optane drive is really quite poor in terms of write resilience - down to 96% in just under a year as I was storing all my vhds in a partition, and they do a lot of writing. I moved then to secondary drive, and still at 100% for several months.

So, on Windows 11, I tried to move pagefile as well, but it comes up with an error message saying it has created a temporary pagefile (on C drive) due to a pagefile configuration issue. I tried various combos, and only time I do not get error message is if I have a pagefile on C drive.

So, it seems you cannot have no pagefile on C Drive with W11?

Thoughts?


You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
 
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You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
Pretty sure, I tried that but will double check - thanks.
 

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You can do it. I have done it.
Choose: No page file for the C: drive, and despite the message, reboot the computer.

Then choose whatever drive you want and create a page file. Reboot again.
IF there is any pagefile.sys left on C: you can just delete it.

Note: I don't know if it matters... but when I create the pagefile on a different drive, I set min and max to the same size.
I tried exactly this but it still does not work on my PC. I manually set pagefile to minimum 800 to avoid error message and 5200 on E drive but on reboot it gives this on left but setting is like on right, so I have no idea which is right.

EDIT: just double checked - no pagefile on E: drive - something is screwed up!

It works fine on W10 but not w11!
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I tried exactly this but it still does not work on my PC. I manually set pagefile to minimum 800 to avoid error message and 5200 on E drive but on reboot it gives this on left but setting is like on right, so I have no idea which is right.

EDIT: just double checked - no pagefile on E: drive - something is screwed up!

It works fine on W10 but not w11!
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Now, go into File Explorer and just delete the pagefile.sys that's there. Leave the one on the E: drive untouched.
 
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Another way to remove the page file from C: is to create the one on the other drive, reboot...
THEN in the Virtual Memory settings... highlight the C: drive and choose: No paging file.
 

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Based upon cereberus's general knowledge level, plus the op, I think he is saying that he's done this numerous times - but his current system is being a bit of a PITA and not letting him do it the way it's always worked in the past.

Is it possible that there is some app you have installed that is forcing at least 800 MB of system restore on the main drive that you're unaware of? It would have to be a really weird program, or at least one that I haven't used in a while ever ... but stranger things have happened.

Perhaps an AV suite is being over zealous and not allowing it to be removed for whatever reason?
 

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I don`t use a page file on W10 or W11, I`ve never had a issue. I stopped using a page file with W7 too, when I 1st started using small 120 to 128GB SSD`s
It all depends on how much memory you have.

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I doubt that it is a memory issue, but may still be worth investigating.

The key here is that he cannot get that Drive C pagefile to go away, and it's worked plenty of times before for him.
 

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My D: drive is a faster NVMe drive connected to PCIe 4. I have no problems running my pagefile on it:

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My D: drive is a faster NVMe drive connected to PCIe 4. I have no problems running my pagefile on it:

View attachment 24832
Yeah - something weird is going on with my device. I have no idea what it is .

I might try a clean install for first time since Fred Flinstone visited UK
 

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    ASUS Vivobook 14
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    I7
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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Probably the best bet, as it's just weird that what worked perfectly fine before is not working now.
 

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    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
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    4 * Corsair Vengeance 32 GB 3600 MHz
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    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
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    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
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    Eve Spectrum ES07D02 280 Hz QHD | Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor
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    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM)
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    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
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Yeah - something weird is going on with my device. I have no idea what it is .

I might try a clean install for first time since Fred Flinstone visited UK
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (WiFi)
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    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
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    Windows 11 Education
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    Laptop
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    Dell Inspiron 7773
    CPU
    Intel i7-8550U
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce MX150
    Sound Card
    Realtek
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    17"
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    1920 x 1080
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    Toshiba 512GB NVMe SSD
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cereberus

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I have done more testing. If I set C drive to 0 pagefile, and 5000 MB on secondary drive, when I reboot I get a temporary pagefile error. On googling, it seems that this is related to controllers. I have an optane nvme drive, and I think this kicks in before secondary drive controller and it complains. I just cannot set it to zero or no pagefile.

Best I can do is set it to minimum of 16 MB but then the secondary pagefile just does not seem to be active.

It sets up a temporary page file if I set C to 0.

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Now with C set to minimum of 16 MB as below, it looks better, but looking closer, it only sees C drive.
Pagefile is only 16 MB 1648495683833.png
But no pagefile on E drive!

I am sure this is related to my optane drive!

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro + others in VHDs
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Vivobook 14
    CPU
    I7
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    N/A
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Optane NVME SSD, 1 TB NVME SSD
    PSU
    Yep, got one
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wired
    Internet Speed
    72 Mb/s :-(
    Browser
    Edge mostly
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
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