Repeated installs and activation on the same hardware?


Jidis

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Hi all,

I've got an activation/re-activation question I was wondering about if anybody can help.

My main rig still runs Windows 7, which is good for what I'm usually running. I needed to get 10 or 11 on there for something I occasionally run, so I installed 10 on an external USB3 M.2 drive, and bought a Windows 11 Pro key for it. The activation worked out fine, but I needed to narrow down some issues I was having elsewhere, so I cleared the partition and put 11 on it. At this point, I'm undecided as to whether or not I'll stick with 11, so I avoided trying to activate it with that key, as I'm not sure if it would allow me to go back.

If the hardware (drive/partition/MB/RAM/CPU) remains unchanged, can you bounce around between Windows 10 and 11 Pro installations (or re-installs of either) using your key, without it kicking you off the system or decrementing some sort of install count? I keep partition images of my initial installs for that reason, but I don't want to kill my key, and the time and personalization limitations of running unactivated obviously won't work long-term.

Thanks! (and please, no comments on my choice of OS) ;-)
 
Windows Build/Version
Windows 10 Pro (22H2) and Windows 11 Pro (24H2)

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7,10,11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
Hi all,

I've got an activation/re-activation question I was wondering about if anybody can help.

My main rig still runs Windows 7, which is good for what I'm usually running. I needed to get 10 or 11 on there for something I occasionally run, so I installed 10 on an external USB3 M.2 drive, and bought a Windows 11 Pro key for it. The activation worked out fine, but I needed to narrow down some issues I was having elsewhere, so I cleared the partition and put 11 on it. At this point, I'm undecided as to whether or not I'll stick with 11, so I avoided trying to activate it with that key, as I'm not sure if it would allow me to go back.

If the hardware (drive/partition/MB/RAM/CPU) remains unchanged, can you bounce around between Windows 10 and 11 Pro installations (or re-installs of either) using your key, without it kicking you off the system or decrementing some sort of install count? I keep partition images of my initial installs for that reason, but I don't want to kill my key, and the time and personalization limitations of running unactivated obviously won't work long-term.

Thanks! (and please, no comments on my choice of OS) ;-)
Hi @Jidis & welcome,

I have never encountered any issues switching between 10 & 11, and back to 10.
And I don't believe you will either.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF Gaming FX705GM
    CPU
    2.20 gigahertz Intel i7-8750H Hyper-threaded 12 cores
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. FX705GM 1.0
    Memory
    24428 Megabytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) Display Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Integrated Monitor (17.3"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    FHD 1920X1080 16:9
    Hard Drives
    2 SSD SATA/NVM Express 1.3
    WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 500.1 GB
    WDCSDAPNUW-1002 256 GB
    PSU
    19V DC 6.32 A 120 W
    Cooling
    Dual Fans
    Mouse
    MS Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    Fiber 1GB Cox -us & 400MB Orange-fr
    Browser
    Edge Canary- Firefox Nightly-Chrome Dev
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    VMs of Windows 11 stable/Beta/Dev/Canary
    VM of XeroLinux- Arch based & Debian 12
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Insider Canary
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS X751BP
    CPU
    AMD Dual Core A6-9220
    Motherboard
    ASUS
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R5 M420
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3
    Screen Resolution
    1600X900 16:9
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400RPM
Thanks OAT, that's what I was hoping!

I never really understood what the newer systems considered a "significant change". BTW- I actually looked, but somehow just noticed that "activation explained" thread. It's probably got most of the details in it already.

Looking forward to getting my personalization happening tonight.

Take Care
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7,10,11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
For clarification, there is no differentiation any way shape or form between a Windows 10 and a Windows 11 key. A Windows 10 key IS in fact, also a Windows 11 key.

Also, once activated, you should be able to reinstall over and over again without any difficulty. To be on the safe side, I always create a hybrid account so that my system gets tied to my Microsoft account even if I do not sign in with a Microsoft account.

I do a heck of a lot of testing so I have systems on which I have installed 100+ times (no, I am not exaggerating) and have yet to ever have a difficulty with this.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Kamrui Mini PC, Model CK10
    CPU
    Intel i5-12450H
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    PSU
    120W "Brick"
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I never really understood what the newer systems considered a "significant change". BTW- I actually looked, but somehow just noticed that "activation explained" thread. It's probably got most of the details in it already.
This one? @Kari's post is the most detailed explanation of activation that I know of.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
You can format and reinstall Windows 10 or 11 on the same computer as many times as you like. Once either Windows 10 or 11 is activated, it keeps a record (aka digital license) in Microsoft servers. You don't need they key anymore. In fact, if you do a new installation (format and reinstall), you can select "I don't have a key" and then select the SAME version (Home or Pro) and proceed with the installation. When online, Windows will contact Microsoft servers, verify that this computer already has a digital license for that version and activate automatically. This is even with minor changes, such as larger SSD or more RAM, or faster CPU. You will encounter activation issues only with a major change, such as motherboard. You said you installed Windows on an external USB 3.2 M.2 drive, probably Windows-to-Go, since standard Windows wouldn't allow you to install on external drive. Just keep booting from the same drive (storage controller). If you install the M.2 inside the motherboard, the storage controller changes and this could be a major change that affects activation. Also Windows-to-Go can receive all updates but not upgrade to a higher version (at least that was the case with Windows 10, I don't know for sure about Windows 11). So if you want a new version, such as 25H2 next year, you have to do a clean installation or temporarily install the M.2 inside the computer (not USB), convert Windows-to-Go to standard version (see Tutorials or other relevant threads), upgrade and then convert to Windows-to-Go again. If your motherboard doesn't have M.2 slots, you need an M.2 PCIe card. Make sure you install the card and the drivers before moving the disk, so Windows already has the driver available and you can boot.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2314) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2314)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

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