Secure Boot disable nightmare heads up


Tweakfiend

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Hi
Having seen that disabling secure boot can prevent reinstall errors when installing from a new updated ISO , I pushed ahead !
I am using a Microsoft Surface Go .

I had not noticed that BitLocker is installed by default in Windows 11, having only once tried it in 16 years in previous versions, where it was switched off by default.
I disabled secure boot and then proceeded to attempt a reinstall from a Usb boot stick .

This caused an installation error as the existing boot drive could not be selected .

On reboot I found that I was trapped in a BitLocker boot loop for 2 hours and advised to enter the 48 digit Bitlocker recovery key on a blue recovery screen ,which I did not have / know existed !.

I had a Macrium system backup to fall back on ,but this was now also enveloped in the boot loop.

No remedies suggested worked , and in some cases people had bricked hard drive access, when attempting a "breakout".

By chance I eventually found that this recovery key is saved in a section of Microsoft's "my profile"and so eventually recovered my backup.

Sometimes bitlocker access is corrupted and so recovery is impossible.

A by- product on normal working is that my M2 read / write drive speed is slowed down 40% due to the bitlocker encryption process introduced by default in Windows 11 !

Any similar experiences ?

Progress ?.......... definitely not !
 
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Didn't know that the Surface had BitLocker on as default. You can always turn it off.


Good find to recover though.

Always try installing with Secure Boot on at first.
 

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    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
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Didn't know that the Surface had BitLocker on as default. You can always turn it off.


Good find to recover though.

Always try installing with Secure Boot on at first.
Hi
Presume its not Surface fault but Windows 11 having bitlocker on by default (?)
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit / Windows 3.11 Emulator
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    Asus Rog Z 790 / E Wifi 7
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    64 GB Corsair Dominator DDR5
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    2 x Corsair MP 600 Pro 500GB M2 drives ( Main ), + 1 Samsung M2 + Hitachi Sata Drive
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    Other Info
    Pertelian X2040 ,
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
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    Microsoft Surface Go
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    128 GB and 256 GB Micro SD
Hi
Presume its not Surface fault but Windows 11 having bitlocker on by default (?)
I'm using the Home version but this is interesting,

"BitLocker will be enabled by default on all Windows 11 PCs. Once the drive is encrypted with BitLocker, Windows asks where you’d like to back up the encryption key. The key reduces the odds of the data being tampered with, should your laptop get stolen or lost. It’s stored inside of the firmware TPM in the CPU, or in a discrete TPM 2.0 module, where it will be called upon to unseal the drive during the login process."

From,

 

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    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
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    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
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    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
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    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
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    330 Watts
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    500 Mbps
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    Edge
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    ACER NITRO
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
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    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
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    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
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    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
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    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
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    180 Watt, 19.5 V
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    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
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    Edge
    Antivirus
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I don't think Bitlocker is on by default in generally Windows 11
I did a clean install on my old PC that have no TPM nor SecureBoot, and the Bitlocker is just OFF.

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I don't think Bitlocker is on by default in generally Windows 11
I did a clean install on my old PC that have no TPM nor SecureBoot, and the Bitlocker is just OFF.

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Well it looks as if it was turned on on your Microsoft machine ~ if it was originally turned off.
 

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    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
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    ACER Nitro AN16-41
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    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
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    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
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    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
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    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
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    1920 X 1200
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    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
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    330 Watts
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    500 Mbps
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    Edge
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    ACER NITRO
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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
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    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
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    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
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    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
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    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
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    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
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    180 Watt, 19.5 V
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    Lenovo Bluetooth
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    500 Mbps
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    Defender
I have Windows 11 installed via Insider's in-place upgrade from Windows 10 and BitLocker was NOT turned on. Also, if BitLocker was "on" you'd have a lock icon next to the drive as shown here under Windows 10 for my OS drive....

BitLocker On Icon.JPG

Windows 10 showing BitLocker status for drives. As you see the OS drive is BitLockered...

Windows 10 BitLocker turned on.JPG

The lock icon indicates BitLocker is turned on for the drive. You can also tell if it's on via Control Panel, BitLocker Drive Encryption. This is from the Windows 11 Control panel, as you can see BitLocker is completely off for all drives....

Windows 11 BitLocker Settings.PNG

So if you don't have a lock icon, or Control Panel shows BitLocker off, it's off.

Hope this helps.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
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    Intel i9-9900K
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    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon VII
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
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    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
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    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
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    Logitech Craft
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    Intel i7-7700K
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    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
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    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
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    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
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    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
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    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
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    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
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    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
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    Corsair H100i
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    Logitech MX Master
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    Logitech MK 710
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    100MB
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    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
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    This is my backup system.
It might be a product of his using a Microsoft Surface Go.

I've not seen it self-enable on installation on PCs, thus far, but I also don't have a Surface device to test installing on.
 

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It might be a product of his using a Microsoft Surface Go.

I've not seen it self-enable on installation on PCs, thus far, but I also don't have a Surface device to test installing on.

Good point.

Missed this was a Microsoft Surface PC. If that's the case Microsoft may be forcing certain security features not normally enforced on other non-Microsoft devices.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
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    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
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    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
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    Custom Built
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    Intel i7-7700K
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    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
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    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Good point.

Missed this was a Microsoft Surface PC. If that's the case Microsoft may be forcing certain security features not normally enforced on other non-Microsoft devices.
Yes, see my post #6.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Well it looks as if it was turned on on your Microsoft machine ~ if it was originally turned off.
Yes, see my post #6.

The only issue I have there is if it was turned off, I don't see why it would be automatically turned on with the installation of Windows 11, unless it was supposed to be on to begin with (speaking of the Surface devices).

So my questions would be... 1) was it on when the OP originally got the notebook, 2) did they turn it off themselves, only to have Windows 11 turn it on again during the install process? Sounds rather strange to me, but....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
The only issue I have there is if it was turned off, I don't see why it would be automatically turned on with the installation of Windows 11, unless it was supposed to be on to begin with (speaking of the Surface devices).

So my questions would be... 1) was it on when the OP originally got the notebook, 2) did they turn it off themselves, only to have Windows 11 turn it on again during the install process? Sounds rather strange to me, but....
Exactly!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Exactly to my questions, or exactly that it sounds strange? Just trying to grasp what happened.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Exactly to my questions, or exactly that it sounds strange? Just trying to grasp what happened.
To both but I'm sure the OP would have noticed that BitLocker was enabled on his machine prior to installing Win 11.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Exactly to my questions, or exactly that it sounds strange? Just trying to grasp what happened.

Windows 11 or any other version can't change BIOS settings w/o the users help.
The BIOS code and Windows code are separated for a reason. They can read each other, but Windows can't "write" to the BIOS.


Well, unless you have a crossover program. Like a 3rd party tool that runs In Windows to overclock with.



/edit

Just checked... I'm on Windows Home and Bitlocker is NOT turned on by default, in Services. It's set to Manual.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦22631.3593 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
To both but I'm sure the OP would have noticed that BitLocker was enabled on his machine prior to installing Win 11.

I would assume that as well being they would have (should have) noticed a lock icon next to the drive.

That said, I still find it odd Windows 11 would auto encrypt a drive that wasn't encrypted when the OS was installed. Certainly didn't happen here or on with others upgrading to Windows 11.

Anyway, the OP hasn't replied back, and the PC in question is a Microsoft Surface notebook so I await the OP's reply.

Thanks
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
There is a lot we do not know. It's why I was hesitant to take a guess at anything, really, as I simply do not have a Surface device of any type tom compare to / get knowledge from.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    NZXT KRAKEN Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (3x 120 mm push top) + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.3296)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon VII
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242w (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i RGB Platinum
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro 22H2 (build 19045.2130)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-7700K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z270X-GAMING 8
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair Dominator Platinum (3333Mhz)
    Graphics card(s)
    AMD Radeon R9 Fury
    Sound Card
    Onboard (Creative Sound Blaster certified ZxRi)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2415 (24 inch)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung SSD drives: 1x 512gig 950 NVMe drive (OS drive), 1 x 512gig 850 Pro, 1x 256gig 840 Pro.
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova 1000 P2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Phantek Enthoo Luxe
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK 710
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    This is my backup system.
Hi

1) This was a UUP Dump update .
2) No"disable /enable options" in Settings / System for Bitlocker....... only "backup recovery key" so cannot disable at anytime.
3) Assume I missed a heads up during update from Windows 10
4) Note to myself to pay more attention !
:confused:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit / Windows 3.11 Emulator
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build Dec 2023
    CPU
    Pentium I9 14900K
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Z 790 / E Wifi 7
    Memory
    64 GB Corsair Dominator DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RX 590 8GB Special
    Sound Card
    Creative Soundblaster X3 External
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" Toshiba TV / PC
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x Corsair MP 600 Pro 500GB M2 drives ( Main ), + 1 Samsung M2 + Hitachi Sata Drive
    PSU
    1000 w
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 240 , 5 fans built in system
    Cooling
    Silentium PC Spartan 5 Max
    Keyboard
    Seenda Luminous
    Mouse
    1) Aston Martin DB9 Car ,2) McLaren Yellow P2 car , 3) Seenda Wireless
    Internet Speed
    385 mbps
    Browser
    6 Main ones, inter changeable
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 , 10 User
    Other Info
    Pertelian X2040 ,
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Go
    Memory
    8GB
    Hard Drives
    128 GB and 256 GB Micro SD
Hi

1) This was a UUP Dump update .
2) No"disable /enable options" in Settings / System for Bitlocker....... only "backup recovery key" so cannot disable at anytime.
3) Assume I missed a heads up during update from Windows 10
4) Note to myself to pay more attention !
:confused:
OK. BitLocker was enabled before you installed Windows 11. That clears up everything. :cool:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & 🐥.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER Nitro AN16-41
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7735HS Processor 3.2Ghz
    Motherboard
    RB Sierra_PEH (FP7)
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 5600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" QHD+ 165Hz 16:10 IPS Technology
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    Hynix HFS001TEJ9X125N : 1024.2 GB
    PSU
    330 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
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