Seems Ms doesn't like Firefox

jimbo45 · Dec 9, 2021

Hi folks

On latest Windows 11 (preview)

You get a "Nag screen" when wanting to download FF. (On a new install there's only Edge so you need to use that at least once to get FF (or any other browser) from the Internet.

Cheers
jimbo

OldMainframeGuy · Dec 9, 2021

A better title to this thread might be "Seems MS doesn't like competition". Whatever their motive is for shoving Edge down your throat, it's a fool's bet that it's not for your benefit. I don't see any technical issues with Edge; it's most likely as good as any other browser, but Microsoft doesn't think you can come to that conclusion on your own.

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
I keep installers on usb surprised you don't seeing all the vm's/.. you use lol

FDretired · Dec 9, 2021

OldMainframeGuy said:
A better title to this thread might be "Seems MS doesn't like competition". Whatever their motive is for shoving Edge down your throat, it's a fool's bet that it's not for your benefit. I don't see any technical issues with Edge; it's most likely as good as any other browser, but Microsoft doesn't think you can come to that conclusion on your own.

Microsoft is competing with Google search engine. The main reason for promoting Edge is to increase use of Bing. The default search engine for Edge in Bing. There is a long way to go to catchup with Google

Search Engine Market Share in 2024 [Sep '24 Update] | Oberlo

Google dominates the global search engine market share, handling over 90% of searches. Here’s the latest global search engine market share breakdown in 2024.

www.oberlo.ca

orlbuckeye · Dec 9, 2021

Yes my opinion is Edge is a good browser but Bing doesn't compare to Google search.

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
Ducky seems just fine as a search.

orlbuckeye · Dec 9, 2021

Never used Ducky

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
I haven't used google or bing search in a very long time.

Berton · Dec 9, 2021

Have Firefox on all my computers with Duckduckgo as Search engine. Also have other browsers such as Chromium Portable, Vivaldi and SeaMonkey, have seen good reports about Brave so may have to try it. One of the things I look for is cross-platform, use same program on Windows and Linux.

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
Yeah for an old linux dog
Why on earth would Jimbo even open edge when power shell or now terminal can install whatever he wants just like he does on linux lol :zany:

jimbo45 · Dec 9, 2021

OldMainframeGuy said:
A better title to this thread might be "Seems MS doesn't like competition". Whatever their motive is for shoving Edge down your throat, it's a fool's bet that it's not for your benefit. I don't see any technical issues with Edge; it's most likely as good as any other browser, but Microsoft doesn't think you can come to that conclusion on your own.

My main reason for using FF -- actually 2 of them 1) I still like Menus, and 2) I prefer the pin to toolbar for sites I use a lot e.g this one !!!

as far as browsers themselves are concerned there isnt a huge amount of difference - especially now FF can handle .pdf files. There might be some if you use browsers for accessing media streaming e.g Netflix but I haven't had any problems with FF.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 · Dec 9, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yeah for an old linux dog
Why on earth would Jimbo even open edge when power shell or now terminal can install whatever he wants just like he does on linux lol

Hi there

@ThrashZone

actually I'm just playing around with archlinux with a GUI installed on WSL2. The trick to get your own distro installed is to use the docker app on an intitial WSL distro / a Linux VM or even I think Windows itself can run Docker. Then "pull" the distro and convert to .tar file and run in the wsl. !!

If you have Docker installed, you can run these steps. This is a bit easier than a long, manual method, uses an "official" distribution as a starting point, and allows you to see everything that's done to the distribution.

Get the Docker image of Arch Linux, which is an "officially" maintained image:
docker pull archlinux
Start a container that will be used as the base volume for the WSL 2 distribution:
docker run -it --name archlinux-wsl archlinux
From that running, interactive container, set it up with necessary user data and updates; this sets your user name is myself; adjust as necessary; this assumes you know how to use vi, so adjust the editor to suit your needs:
pacman -Syu
pacman -Sy sudo vi
export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi
visudo
# in the editor, uncomment the line "%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
useradd -G wheel,users -m myself
passwd myself
# enter the password for the container user
pwconv
grpconv
# At one point, it was necessary to also run "chmod 0744 /etc/shadow /etc/gshadow"
exit
Export the docker container's state to a tar file:
docker export --output archlinux-image-files.tar archlinux-wsl
Import the exported container files into a new WSL2 distribution:
wsl --import archlinux (a directory on your computer that will store the distribution files) .\archlinux-image-files.tar
You can now run wsl -d archlinux to get running!

!!!!!

All runs from a vhdx file (physical vhdx file) so I don't need any Linux partitions on the HDD where I've got several Windows installs.

(4 Windows installs and 1 W2k22 server) !

Have fun

cheers
jimbo

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
You should add the power shell string to use to install firefox to the op

BunnyJ · Dec 9, 2021

I would be shocked if a Bing search didn't come up with a suggestion to use Edge. This is hardly a problem

ThrashZone · Dec 9, 2021

Hi,
The shock part is the bing search message not that bing is edge's search lol :zany:

glasskuter · Dec 9, 2021

jimbo45 said:
You get a "Nag screen" when wanting to download FF. (

Hey Jimbo, Just curious, Is it still available in the insider store?

flashh4 · Dec 9, 2021

jimbo, i'm with you ! I like FF but occasionally use Edge for watching Hulu because (the Queen of the house) won't let me watch my sports !!
Chuck

Ghot · Dec 9, 2021

Microsoft doesn't like Chrome either...

Microsoft Edge will now warn users about the dangers of downloading Google Chrome

Pop-ups range from straightforward to cheeky. One calls Chrome “so 2008.”…

arstechnica.com

farvatten · Dec 9, 2021

jimbo45 said:
You get a "Nag screen" when wanting to download FF. (On a new install there's only Edge so you need to use that at least once to get FF (or any other browser) from the Internet.

View attachment 15778

Worth mentioning, once you download this 'Firefox Installer.exe' stub, store it somewhere for next time.

When I do clean installs, I've been using the same one for 2 years now. It always gets the most recent FF version and will bypass the need for these dumb Edge / Bing issues of using THEIR browser to get my browser.

brummyfan · Dec 9, 2021

I used Edge browser as my main browser but recently it has become very slow at times because of the repeated updating, I have now started using Google Chrome and FF.

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