So, what Does Work?

TM21 · Sep 4, 2022

I'm tired of reading about what "Doesn't work" with Windows 11, so how about a few reports on what DOES work?

I've yet to start my own list of what Doesn't work, I'm too busy with my list of what DOES work, with Windows 11.
And that list just keeps getting longer and longer, every day that I boot up my Win-11 Laptop, and install a few more programs.

Today, I've used an install of EaseUS Partition Manager to make a new Storage Partition on my SSD, so I'll have room for Backups.
And as I type this post, my Windows 11 laptop is busy running a 1977 Backup Program (Ghost 11.5) to make a compressed Backup of Partition C: to my new "D:\Storage" partition. As it has since 1977, Ghost is doing a great job of backing up my C: partition. It just never fails me!

I keep throwing programs at 11, and she just keeps on taking them just like 7, 8.1 or 10.
Heck, most of the programs I've installed into Windows 11, worked just as well on Windows 98, Vista, or Win-7.
And, all the tweaks and scripts I used to customize Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 work just as well on Win-11.

So, is Windows 11 a new OS, or just an old os with a new face. A false face at that!

It seems like the programmers at Microsoft just love to put a new face to an old OS. It's a lot easier, don't ya know?

I don't know actually how far back the Disk Operating System goes, but I'm suspecting about 20 years, or more.

In all honesty, I did find one VBScript that would not run on 11, because it was specifically written for Win-10.
But, with just a little re-programming, it's now running great on Win-11. It's designed to force a new restore point every time it runs.
I've put it in the STARTUP folder, so I get a new Restore Point every day when I boot up my PC.
I use that script on every PC I own. It has to be specifically written for each OS. Thank You, Shawn.

So, I'm curious how other guys find the program compatibility of Win-11?

Curious in Florida,
Happy Labor Day, Mates!

TM

jonnied12 · Sep 4, 2022

TechnoMage2021 said:
I'm tired of reading about what "Doesn't work" with Windows 11, so how about a few reports on what DOES work?

I've yet to start my own list of what Doesn't work, I'm too busy with my list of what DOES work, with Windows 11.
And that list just keeps getting longer and longer, every day that I boot up my Win-11 Laptop, and install a few more programs.

Today, I've used an install of EaseUS Partition Manager to make a new Storage Partition on my SSD, so I'll have room for Backups.
And as I type this post, my Windows 11 laptop is busy running a 1977 Backup Program (Ghost 11.5) to make a compressed Backup of Partition C: to my new "D:\Storage" partition. As it has since 1977, Ghost is doing a great job of backing up my C: partition. It just never fails me!

I keep throwing programs at 11, and she just keeps on taking them just like 7, 8.1 or 10.
Heck, most of the programs I've installed into Windows 11, worked just as well on Windows 98, Vista, or Win-7.
And, all the tweaks and scripts I used to customize Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 work just as well on Win-11.

So, is Windows 11 a new OS, or just an old os with a new face. A false face at that!

It seems like the programmers at Microsoft just love to put a new face to an old OS. It's a lot easier, don't ya know?

I don't know actually how far back the Disk Operating System goes, but I'm suspecting about 20 years, or more.

In all honesty, I did find one VBScript that would not run on 11, because it was specifically written for Win-10.
But, with just a little re-programming, it's now running great on Win-11. It's designed to force a new restore point every time it runs.
I've put it in the STARTUP folder, so I get a new Restore Point every day when I boot up my PC.
I use that script on every PC I own. It has to be specifically written for each OS. Thank You, Shawn.

So, I'm curious how other guys find the program compatibility of Win-11?

Curious in Florida,
Happy Labor Day, Mates!

TM

The only thing that I've found not to work on Windows 11 is the operator.

TM21 · Sep 4, 2022

You poor guy!
I see you've made 30 posts, but you still have not given us your location. Are you hiding?
How about putting your location in your Profile, we se know which way to face, when talking to you.
As for Win-11, if you were nearby, which I don't know, I'd be willing to help you with it. In less than an hour, I could have you up and running 11 like an old timer, and a Happy Camper.

I've done some tweaking and tuning on mine, and it's now as user friendly as my old Win-7, or 8.1.

TM

cereberus · Sep 4, 2022

What a ridiculous question!

By definition, something either works or does not. So if you know what does not work (relatively few items), then everything else works.

Everybody starts with assumption an app works, and only feels it is of merit mentioning if an app does not work.

Even then, it can depend on hardware, drivers, PEBCAK, installed updates etc. etc. etc.

So you could spend the rest of your life documenting what works for you - Mediaeval Monk comes to mind.

sgage · Sep 4, 2022

TechnoMage2021 said:
I'm tired of reading about what "Doesn't work" with Windows 11, so how about a few reports on what DOES work?

I've yet to start my own list of what Doesn't work, I'm too busy with my list of what DOES work, with Windows 11.
And that list just keeps getting longer and longer, every day that I boot up my Win-11 Laptop, and install a few more programs.

Today, I've used an install of EaseUS Partition Manager to make a new Storage Partition on my SSD, so I'll have room for Backups.
And as I type this post, my Windows 11 laptop is busy running a 1977 Backup Program (Ghost 11.5) to make a compressed Backup of Partition C: to my new "D:\Storage" partition. As it has since 1977, Ghost is doing a great job of backing up my C: partition. It just never fails me!

I keep throwing programs at 11, and she just keeps on taking them just like 7, 8.1 or 10.
Heck, most of the programs I've installed into Windows 11, worked just as well on Windows 98, Vista, or Win-7.
And, all the tweaks and scripts I used to customize Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 work just as well on Win-11.

So, is Windows 11 a new OS, or just an old os with a new face. A false face at that!

It seems like the programmers at Microsoft just love to put a new face to an old OS. It's a lot easier, don't ya know?

I don't know actually how far back the Disk Operating System goes, but I'm suspecting about 20 years, or more.

In all honesty, I did find one VBScript that would not run on 11, because it was specifically written for Win-10.
But, with just a little re-programming, it's now running great on Win-11. It's designed to force a new restore point every time it runs.
I've put it in the STARTUP folder, so I get a new Restore Point every day when I boot up my PC.
I use that script on every PC I own. It has to be specifically written for each OS. Thank You, Shawn.

So, I'm curious how other guys find the program compatibility of Win-11?

Curious in Florida,
Happy Labor Day, Mates!

TM

This is a technical support forum. People come here for help when things don't work. Not to report that everything is fine. Windows has been around a long time, and you would hope that things 'just worked' at this point. A lot of basic stuff does. But every new version brings breakage, as MS introduces new features that nobody asked for nor wants. That's what this forum is for - help dealing with that breakage.

DigitalGoat · Sep 4, 2022

I think the OP may be muddling a question with an opinion.
The thing with Win11 is that MS saw fit to remove some methods of functionality which a lot of people seem to take issue with.
However the OS works as good as, if not better than, previous versions of Windows.
The question 'does it work?' has never really been applicable, the question 'how does it work now?' is more appropriate.
As @cereberus says, something either works or doesn't, and Windows 11 as an operating system works. As to whether other software works with it is an entirely different question.

TM21 · Sep 4, 2022

That WAS my question!

Or maybe, "What does Not work?"

So far, the only thing I've found that did not work, was a script that forces the OS to make a new Restore Point.
I run it in my startup folder.
It was specifically written to work only with Win-10. So I had to edit (hack) it to make it work with Win-11. No problem!

cereberus · Sep 4, 2022

DigitalGoat said:
I think the OP may be muddling a question with an opinion.
The thing with Win11 is that MS saw fit to remove some methods of functionality which a lot of people seem to take issue with.
However the OS works as good as, if not better than, previous versions of Windows.
The question 'does it work?' has never really been applicable, the question 'how does it work now?' is more appropriate.
As @cereberus says, something either works or doesn't, and Windows 11 as an operating system works. As to whether other software works with it is an entirely different question.

Not sure - Op says specifically

"So, I'm curious how other guys find the program compatibility of Win-11?"

and as @sgage alludes to, why would we bother posting if something works?

The only remotely meaningful answer is "Apart from rare exceptions, everything that runs on W10 will run on W11."

In fact the exceptions are very rare for mainstream apps (e.g. Adobe, Office, most popular games, Hyper-V etc.), , I do not have a single failure case with over 50 installed apps, and I am blowed if I am going to list every app just to say it works. In the end, there are thousands across all users!

Bree · Sep 4, 2022

TechnoMage2021 said:
...or maybe, "What does Not work?"

The OS Kernel of Window 11 is virtually the same as the one used in Windows 10 so any software that works in 10 should also work in 11. Where 11 differs from 10 is in the UI, and in Security.

The UI (Start/Taskbar/etc) has had a major redesign and there was some functionality that was in 10 and before that didn't make it into the 21H2 initial release. Two examples are the ability to make groups of apps on Start, and click-and-drag to the Taskbar. Both those have been put back now for the 22H2 Feature Update that's in the Insider Preview Channel. 22H2 should get its public launch soon, expected to be this month or next.

For Security it's not so much that it's all new stuff. Almost everything, like Core Isolation and Memory Integrity, was already there in Windows 10. It's that the default in 11 is to have it all turned on, whereas the default in 10 was to turn it off. To be able to turn all this on by default was one of the reasons Microsoft gave to justify the Intel 8th gen or higher processor requirement on the ground of performance impact. Intel 8th gen or later (or the equivalents from AMD) all natively support functions that are used by core isolation. 7th gen or earlier have to emulate these functions.

Cromax · Sep 4, 2022

Bree said:
The OS Kernel of Window 11 is virtually the same as the one used in Windows 10 so any software that works in 10 should also work in 11. Where 11 differs from 10 is in the UI, and in Security.

The UI (Start/Taskbar/etc) has had a major redesign and there was some functionality that was in 10 and before that didn't make it into the 21H2 initial release. Two examples are the ability to make groups of apps on Start, and click-and-drag to the Taskbar. Both those have been put back now for the 22H2 Feature Update that's in the Insider Preview Channel. 22H2 should get its public launch soon, expected to be this month or next.

For Security it's not so much that it's all new stuff. Almost everything, like Core Isolation and Memory Integrity, was already there in Windows 10. It's that the default iin 11 is to have it all turned on, whereas the default in 10 was to turn it off. To be able to turn all this on by default was one of the reasons Microsoft gave to justify the Intel 8th gen or higher processor requirement on the ground of performance impact. Intel 8th gen or later (or the equivalents from AMD) all natively support functions that are used by core isolation. 7th gen or earlier have to emulate these functions.

Isn't memory scheduler new and better in win 11

Ghot · Sep 4, 2022

The wallpaper works fine.

K7MEM · Sep 5, 2022

The only issue that I have come across, when updating from W10 to W11, is that my USB to Serial Port converter cables stopped working. Amateur Radio operators often use these cables to communicate with their radios. While newer radios have direct USB connections, older radios do not. The converter cables were about 10-15 years old and Prolific based. They worked fine with XP, W7, and W10 but W11 failed to recognize them. I believe there was a workaround to get them working again, but it didn't seem worth it. So, for about $13.00 each, I found new FTDI based converter cables that work just fine on W10 and W11.

Other than that, all of my software from XP, W7, and W10 works just fine. I even have some older DOS and GWBasic stuff that still works fine under DOSBox.

glasskuter · Sep 5, 2022

Hmmm...Pretty much everything works. Are there bugs? Yes, there are. But they jump up from time to time with every OS. There's been no program compatibility problems for me. I'm running some old software I ran in Windows 7 almost 15 years ago. If MS would ever learn to perfect updates as well as Apple has, I would have nothing to report.

cereberus · Sep 5, 2022

glasskuter said:
Hmmm...Pretty much everything works. Are there bugs? Yes, there are. But they jump up from time to time with every OS. There's been no program compatibility problems for me. I'm running some old software I ran in Windows 7 almost 15 years ago. If MS would ever learn to perfect updates as well as Apple has, I would have nothing to report.

Well, maybe I am wrong but I has heard Apple sometimes go one stage further and just point blank refuse to run some old software on new hardware? I guess this a better than just crashing.

TM21 · Sep 5, 2022

Thanks for the Positives, guys and dolls. It's nice to hear that my own positive experience is not an Exception.
My apologies, to the Negative Nellies who don't like my uncontrolled positivity. I'm just a positive kind of guy.

I too, have thrown all my old programs at Win-11, and they were accepted without a whimper! I have to admit, that I was just a little bit surprised.
I probably mentioned this before, but I have a VBScript that was specifically written for Windows 10, to create a new Restore Point when run.
Of course it would not run on Win-11. That is, till I replaced all references to "10" with "11". Then it ran just fine.

If that's the worse incompatibility that I encounter, then all's well.

:cool"

Bree · Sep 5, 2022

TechnoMage2021 said:
I too, have thrown all my old programs at Win-11, and they were accepted without a whimper! I have to admit, that I was just a little bit surprised.

Me too, my 20+ year old PaintShop Pro 7.04 works just as well as it ever did. I think my oldest app is sol.exe lifted from a Windows NT 3.1 CD.

TM21 · Sep 5, 2022

Is that the old DOS Sol? I was playing that back in 1990, way before Windows anything. And I still do, every day.
I must admit though, I've not tried that yet on Win-11. But I will, now that you mention it.
It just requires two files.... Sol.exe and cards.dll in the same folder.

Paintshop? Oh gosh, I've not seen that in Years! At least not since I found "Photo Filtre". (not a misprint, it's French)

Thanks for the little trip down Memory Lane.
TM

ShamrockRig · Sep 5, 2022

Everything works for me, I think about 5 things haven't worked since the first dev launch last june for me, Other than that, Sweet everywhere :) Oh and those 5 were of course, Fixed. But im aware there will be some things that i dont use etc that will mean i dont come across a certain issue so im not saying there isn't any issues out there either

TM21 · Sep 5, 2022

I couldn't resist.... I had to see if old Sol would play on Win-11 and it did.
I just copied the two necessary files from my 8.1 PC to my Win-11 PC, and put a shortcut to Sol.exe on the desktop, and VOILA, it ran,
and I won!

My Windows 11 desktop. Looks more like Windows 7, Eh?

I play that program every evening, to keep my 'Hand / Eye coordination' as acute as possible. At 79, that's important.
Do you use the Right mouse button to complete moves? I do, and it really speeds up the game play.

TM

Bree · Sep 5, 2022

TechnoMage2021 said:
Is that the old DOS Sol? I was playing that back in 1990, way before Windows anything....

Yes, except it's not a DOS app, it's a Windows app. Been unchanged since Windows 3.x (as a 16-bit app). For NT/XP it was upgraded to a 32-bit app and runs happily in 64-bit W11.

TechnoMage2021 said:
I just copied the two necessary files from my 8.1 PC.....

There's a 3rd file that's useful, the sol.chm help file.

I also have been using Cardfile.exe as my address book since Windows, 3.1, copying the .exe and my addrbook.crd data file to each new PC/OS. For my first 64-bit OS (Win7) I had to find the only ever 32-bit version MS produced. That came on the NT 3.51 install CD, for all Win 3.x versions it was only ever a 16 bit app.

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