So when is a Windows 11 PC not a Windows 11 PC?


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Just askin', in view of the horrendous time I'm having trying to change some settings on my recently arrived Dell Inspiron. I've now had two massively time-consuming attempts at trying to achieve auto log-in, based on advice appearing on the 'Net as to how to manage this on a Windows 11 machinebut without any success: the Inspiron appears to accept the changes but then carries on regardless afterwards.

Anyway: enough of the background.

As the first screenshot shows, this PC is running Windows 11 (version 21H2, OS Build 22000.556.) That marches up with what Dell told me when I ordered this Inspiron from it at the beginning of this month. 'The model comes with Windows 11 installed'.

Fair enough. However, I have no idea what purpose is being served by what seem to be vestigial fragments of some partly erased text appearing on the Version information: what on earth is the mysterious 'org name' doing beneath the identity of the licensed user?

Presumably the phrase started out as 'Organization name'. . . but if so, why its only partial removal removal from display?

Comparing the screenshot of that Windows version information with the next screenshot of Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version (from which I have edited out the 20-character alphanumeric ProductID in the interests of my own security) the following may be noted:

ProductName Windows 10 Home

ReleaseID
2009

So. This computer says it's a Windows 11 and a Windows 10 device.

Shomething wrong shomewhere???

Win 11 licensed to Inspiron as at 22 03-30-2022.jpg

User Inspiron22, product Windows 10 Home EDITED LICENSE.jpg
 

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There's nothing wrong... Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version will state Windows 10 because they haven't updated that yet... it is in fact Windows 11.

And the 'org name' in Winver is the generic that Dell uses when it mass produces the image placed on their systems... HP for example used something like that, don't remember the exact wording.

If you want, you can edit the following place in the registry to change both the username and organization to whatever you want:
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
and change:
RegisteredOwner and RegisteredOrganization

--Edit--
Based on your screenshot, you have to create the key for RegisteredOrganization. that's probably why it says 'org name' since the key is missing
 

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Mine is exactly the same. As for as the "org" goes, the company name would be there had a company name been used in the oobe setup process. As to the registry, my educated guess is it's probably because Windows 11 was built on the Windows 10 platform and that little mention of 10 has been overlooked. Some of the others might have better ideas.
 

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MS hasn't changed the user agent identification aspect of Windows 11 to reflect that it's not the same OS as Windows 10. This is in part deliberate, to make it easier for users to access Web pages that take cognizance of Windows OS versions, and already know about Windows 10. See this MS Docs item "Detect Windows 11 using User Agent Client Hints" for a fascinating discussion.
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The Windows 11 (Original Release) was Windows 10.0.22000.194.iso.
 

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Autologin from Sysinternals still works on 11. Available from the Windows Store as Sysinternals Suit.
 

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Id say when it has windows 11 on it it is a windows 11 pc. When it doesn't. It isn't.
 

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If anyone would know it would be @Ed Tittel who gave the best answer. The rest of us are just opining
 

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What did you do to try auto logon, mine works fine with netplwiz
 

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If anyone would know it would be @Ed Tittel who gave the best answer. The rest of us are just opining
Yup, Forums are place where loads of opinions of given! Mine was in however in reply to the thread title, Nowt else which was pretty self explanatory, But thanks for you're opinion :)
 

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@jerrypc1 just had to remember to turn off Hello and loose the pin first if you use one. I believe Shawn may have done a tutorial on it
 

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@glasskuter: what did I say? What did I say? The boat has sailed, but I'm still on the dock, wondering what I missed.
TIA for clarifying...
=Ed=
 

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Belgium
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System One

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Medion Life X18102
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 200Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF

jerrypc1

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My Computer

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  • OS
    windows Eleven Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP PAVILION DESKTOP 590-pOxxx
    CPU
    INTEL (R) CORE(TM) i3-8100 CPU @3.60GHz 3.60GHz
    Memory
    8.00GB (7.86 GB usable)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24W
    Hard Drives
    WINDOWS(C:)BASIC NTFS 913.42 GB /WINDOWS (C) (G) BASIC-2794.52
    RECOVERY (D:) 16.85 GB?DISK PARTITION 1) ( E 260 MB0)DISK (4) R0980MB
    Keyboard
    HP
    Mouse
    LOGITECH (M705
    Browser
    FIRE FOX 94.01
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS SECURITY
    Other Info
    desktop pc #2 PROCESSOR AMD A8-7410 APU WITH AMD RADEON R5 GRAPHICS 2.20 GHZ INSTALLED RAM 4.00 GB(3.45 GB USABLE) DEVICE ID 5c27474D-FCBA-4D)D-89E8-89E8-071DCOAB36AC PRODUCT ID 00325-80450-35140-AAOEM SYSTEM TYPE 64-BIT OPERATING SYSTEM,X64-BASED PROCESSOR PEN AND TOUCH WITH 10 TOUCH POINTS everything else as pc above

    #3 desktop Dell windows 10 home ver 21h1 Intel(R) Pention(R)cpu G2020@ 2.90 GHZ 2.90 GHZ 64 BIT operating System,x 64based Processor Everything else as the 2 pc's above
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