Solved SSD vs. HDD vs. SSD Storage ("Flashsticks") :: Know the Difference


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Hello,
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I hope this discussion can become a "sticky" here, I found these articles informative... šŸ‘

As technology keeps changing we always keep learning....

(Please, do not let the new member status here on ElevenForums fool you. I have been a member of the SevenForums & TenForums for years, under the same username.)


I found some articles on the web that helped me answer my questions I had about SSDs & SSD storage devices ("flashsticks"). I got some answers here, but I wanted to know a more in-depth answer than what I got from here & so I thought I would share my findings here & in hopes others would benefit, too.


This article, entitled, "SSD vs. HDD : Know the Difference", is from within the webpages of Crucial's Articles' section & I found extremely informative & intuitive; I hope you do, too.​
​
These articles also explains why & how Trim & Active Garbage Collection play key rolls in the speed of the SSD.​
​

This article is on the NVMe protocol & its design to support SSD's higher speed memory over the older SCSI & SATA drives. (Cisco Article: "What Is NVMe?")​



These articles go into depth, in plain english terminologies. Although, I can understand a lot of techno-babble; some of us can't, I can understand where they are comming from when I explain all things "computer" to my family members.

Cheers!
 
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Iā€™ve also been a member of all the forums as ā€œanstpantsā€ (except I canā€™t remember my email or username at Seven)
When I made 3 star Guru, admin sent 3 standover men to my home and they beat the crap out of me. Taped me to my front door with gaffer tape so the neighbours could throw empty beer bottles at me.
You need to put ā€œMacriumā€ in the title of your post to get it stickied šŸ˜„


Thanks for the links, will have a read.
 

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I think that Crucial article is a little out dated stating that the highest capacity HDD is 10TB. As of last month, the highest capacity HDD as far as I know id 32TB

You can buy yourself (loose change) an EDDCT 100TB SSD which retails for $40,000
Sure, itā€™s a data center drive but still

For the home/pro user, The Samsung T5 EVO portable SSD 8TB external SSD
You can get 8TB NVMeā€™s for laptops

The list goes on. And yes in my opinion it makes a difference. Technology advances. That crucial article was updated in September 24 and they still listed HDD/SDD at 10TB & 4TB

I suppose they got the basics in there. Hardly sticky material.
 

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antspants said:
Iā€™ve also been a member of all the forums as ā€œanstpantsā€ (except I canā€™t remember my email or username at Seven)
When I made 3 star Guru, admin sent 3 standover men to my home and they beat the crap out of me. Taped me to my front door with gaffer tape so the neighbours could throw empty beer bottles at me.
You need to put ā€œMacriumā€ in the title of your post to get it stickied šŸ˜„


Thanks for the links, will have a read.
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Sure. šŸ˜‰ I like to help out when I can. Have always been an outside-the-box thinker. I was never into programming always have been a "hardware guy" but could never really afford the "good stuff". Since SanDisk's introduction of the SSD back in 1991 ( wow! šŸ˜® -- 24 years ago!) I could barely afford a high capacity HDD!

BTW, I forgot to add this article about the differences between Understanding M.2, SATA, PCIe and NVMe SSDs...
antspants said:
I think that Crucial article is a little out dated stating that the highest capacity HDD is 10TB. As of last month, the highest capacity HDD as far as I know id 32TB

You can buy yourself (loose change) an EDDCT 100TB SSD which retails for $40,000
Sure, itā€™s a data center drive but still

For the home/pro user, The Samsung T5 EVO portable SSD 8TB external SSD
You can get 8TB NVMeā€™s for laptops

The list goes on. And yes in my opinion it makes a difference. Technology advances. That crucial article was updated in September 24 and they still listed HDD/SDD at 10TB & 4TB

I suppose they got the basics in there. Hardly sticky material.
Click to expand...


Understood. I know it was a little outdated, but for someone who is a newbie to all of the transitions SSDs have come even since 2012. These articles will at least provide some inside information (& possibly some understanding) on the ins & outs of SSDs & SSD storage devices...

That is all I wanted to bring to the table...

Cheers!
 

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Are sevenforum, tenforum and elevenforum own and operate by the same company?
 

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jimhow4545 said:
Are sevenforum, tenforum and elevenforum own and operate by the same company?
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Yes, as far as I know, Designer Media, LTD. They are the ones who own & manage the forums boards & servers we have the privilege of using.

(BTW, scroll down to the end of this page & you will see the links to all of the Family of Forums for each of the Windows OSes).

Cheers!
 

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pseymour said:
šŸ¤” Not sure I agree with your math there. šŸ˜‰
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If you check out Wikipedia's SanDisk Page & look under History, within the 3rd paragraph it states that SanDisk created a 20MB SSD in 1991. The price for the SSD was $1,000 USD. I did not believe it either until I looked it up. (I know that the Wiki's can be edited, but I doubt this statement is untrue.) :wink:
 

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SpiritWolfe said:
Since SanDisk's introduction of the SSD back in 1991 ( wow! šŸ˜® -- 24 years ago!)
Click to expand...

1991 was 32 years ago. 32 years 10 months to be exact.

And I just made myself feel old again.
 

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    Optimized with Dolby AtmosĀ®
    Screen Resolution
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    Other Info
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    NUC12WSBi7
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    64 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
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    7th gen IntelĀ® Coreā„¢ i5 - 7200U (3MB Cache, 2.5GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS UX560A
    Memory
    16GB => 8GB [on-board] & 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666MHZ SoDIMM
    Graphics Card(s)
    IntelĀ® HD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Harmon/Kardon built-in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    Touchscreen: 39.6 cm (15.6") Full HD 1920 x 1080 pixels Matt 16:9
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 2TB SSD 870 EVO [SATA]; Samsung 1TB SSD 980 PRO [NVMe Gen3];
    Samsung 4TB SSD T7 Shield [Portable]
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    19v@2.36A 45W - 20v@5.0A 65W PD (USB-C to Barrel plug 4.0mm x 1.35mm)
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    Aluminum
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    Standard cooling fan
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    Backlit, built-in keyboard
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    Logitech Mice: G502X & G602
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    Firefox v131.0.2
    Other Info
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